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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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discolives78

Neat stuff! maybe I should go on a 'treasure hunt' in my Pinto!


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

map351

Quote from: map351 on January 06, 2008, 05:30:09 PM
I have 2 for you..

I was changing a QT panel on a 71 Mustang Mach 1 and  found a set of Ford playing cards behind the QT panel below the QT window and the Int panel was never removed from day 1. The packaging got wet and i lost 1 card. There around here somewhere I'll take a pic of them..

Mike

Found the Ford cards..

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map351

Quote from: turbo toy on January 17, 2008, 09:03:33 AM
About 10 years ago I was pulling the back seats out of a 70 duster and when I pulled the seat bottom, I found a brand new Mopar drag racing game still in the box in perfect condition. Sure made ME smile.

So that's where i left it!   Gimmie my game back now..
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turbo toy

About 10 years ago I was pulling the back seats out of a 70 duster and when I pulled the seat bottom, I found a brand new Mopar drag racing game still in the box in perfect condition. Sure made ME smile.

fomogo

Quote from: map351 on January 06, 2008, 05:30:09 PMA good friend was a body man at a local Ford dealer this would be in the late 60s. He had a 69 Cobrajet Torino in the shop with a customer complaint of a rattle in the rear of the car. I was there the day he found a glass Coke bottle with a 3/8 nut inside and a note saying HaHa you found me seam sealed into the Qt panel drop and undercoated over the bottle..
Mike
Buddy of mine had a 68 nova with a rattle, we found one of the old small coke bottles in the door.
Could only figure it was put there on the assy line.

Bill... COOL find with the cup!


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BlueGoldPinto

The build sheet for the New Yorker was found under the backseat (if I remember right) Who knows where they misplaced those things. I just remembered, that after my dad passed away a friend of his stopped by our house, unknowing of his passing. Before he left, he asked us if my dad had ever told us the story of how he "dug up the dirt on the corvette" We have a 72 vette stingray my parents bought in like 78. The car had a hole in one of the fender wells, and the guy they got the car off of told my dad that it used to belong to elvis presely. Well, my dad, being big elvis fan, decided to research this further because there was no actual proof that the car was owned by the king. He traced it back to one guy who said he bought the car for prescilla but never had it titled in his name. I guess Elvis would run the shi* out of the car in the dirt track behind graceland every time prescilla p-o'ed him. He eventually put this hole in the side of the car, and it was sold like 14 times before coming into my dads possesion. So in fixing this hole, with this friend of his, he reached up wayyyyy under the front of the car and scraped off some mud from underneath. This friend then had the dirt sent to graceland requesting analysis with the dirt from the track behind the house, as well as some possible conformation from prescilla. A few weeks later, he got a letter from prescilla saying that she did use to own a yellow corvette when she was married to elvis-but never knew what happened to it. Also, the dirt analysis was sent back-with a positive conformation that they both matched, as well as an arial picture of the spot from where the sample was taken. I have no clue where all this "stuff" is because this is the first I had heard this story. I've looked and looked, and have turned up nothing. Sorry if I'm reiterating this story but I think it's pretty cool. Anyway, he point is, you just never know.... ;)
My theory on the Gas Tank of the Ford Pinto:
If it ain't fixed, don't break it!! :)

turbopinto72

That reminds me. I found my build sheet under the carpet in my 72. Maybe its there????
Brad F
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1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

map351

Just thought of another.  Speaking of build sheets.

I just repaired a 427 engine for a friend had a few windows from a broken rod, anyway he owns a few 67 Shelby and his Father (owned Bures Ford) bought a 67Shelby at a local auction and the rug need changed and under the rug was a ream of build sheet must be 40 or more and there's 2 Shelby build sheet in the ream!

I'll get a few pics of the build sheets still all attached together..
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BlueGoldPinto

Wow. Reading all this makes me smile at the thought of all those assembly line workers back in the day that just got bored enough with their tedious tasks to spice things up a little by placing objects in cars-wondering someday if anyone would ever find them. How cool.
My dad found the build sheet for his 1967 New Yorker when he was restoring it back in the 70's or 80's. My parents also found a bottle of glycerin hidden in the basement sometime after they bought their first house. I found a plastic dalmation dog under the backseat of my 74 super beetle after I bought it.........wow....talk about time capsules.
My theory on the Gas Tank of the Ford Pinto:
If it ain't fixed, don't break it!! :)

Smeed

Its nothing compared to the other oddities found inside cars in this thread... but just a couple weeks ago my dad found the spare keys to my mother's car when he was changing the oil. They got lodged somewhere... I dont have any idea how they got there.

'73 runabout

map351

I have 2 for you..

A good friend was a body man at a local Ford dealer this would be in the late 60s. He had a 69 Cobrajet Torino in the shop with a customer complaint of a rattle in the rear of the car. I was there the day he found a glass Coke bottle with a 3/8 nut inside and a note saying HaHa you found me seam sealed into the Qt panel drop and undercoated over the bottle..


I was changing a QT panel on a 71 Mustang Mach 1 and  found a set of Ford playing cards behind the QT panel below the QT window and the Int panel was never removed from day 1. The packaging got wet and i lost 1 card. There around here somewhere I'll take a pic of them..

Mike
73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

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77turbopinto

Quote from: Original74 on January 06, 2008, 02:51:39 PM
My house was built in 1980. The garage was not insulated. A few years ago I pulled all the sheetrock off to add insulation and additional wiring between the studs. There sat a Coors beer can from 1980, of course empty with a cigarette butt in it. I thought of Tony.

Dave

ROTFLMBO!!


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Original74

My house was built in 1980. The garage was not insulated. A few years ago I pulled all the sheetrock off to add insulation and additional wiring between the studs. There sat a Coors beer can from 1980, of course empty with a cigarette butt in it. I thought of Tony.

Dave
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1974 Sedan, 'Geraldine', 45,000 miles, orange and white, show car.
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1979 Sedan, 'Jade', 429 miles, show car, really needs to be in a museum. I am building him one!
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77turbopinto

Kool


Scott, I don't know what to say (now).......


Bill
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Starliner

Wifey bought a new 1977 Mustang II before we were married.   
Many years later I had to install a clutch because of a noisy throw out bearing.

When I pulled back the interior carpet it a smashed paper cup that said "The Ford Team" on it.
The cup was on the floor near the gas pedal.  It was an annoying bump where the heel of your foot would rest. 
I always wondered why that bump was there! 
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1979 Pinto 2300 - Sold!
1984 Audi 5000 Avant - 60,000 original miles
1987 Audi 5000 S Quattro - The snowmobile
1973 Volvo 1800 ES wagon -  my project car
1976 Mustang II - Wifey's new toy

crazyhorse

One year, where I work, a guy printed up business cards with his address, and a request for a Christmas card. He put around 100 or so into rolls of Christmas giftwrap.

He received around 75 Christmas cards.
How to tell when a redneck's time is up: He combines these two sentences... Hey man, hold my beer. Hey y'all watch this!
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Scott Hamilton

Holy Crap!

How often do you see this?

Truly remarkable!!!
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The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

Pintony

Quote from: High_Horse on January 05, 2008, 09:21:42 PM
77TurboPinto,
      Wow!!!!   That is a pretty cool find. I never found any cups All I ever found was a used crank boot.


                                                                                             Trash-Talkin_Horse

Almost fell off the chair and I woke up Cindy Laughfing so hard...
GOOD 1 HH!!!

77turbopinto

It reminds me of my first car. I had a 74 Chevelle that had been in my family since it was new. While waxing it one day, I noticed something odd in the paint on one of the tail light panels. It was the word "Toyota" that looked like it was written with a fingertip upside-down in the paint or primer. The car was never wrecked or repainted so it had to have been done at the factory. Strange.

My father has a friend that once worked on an auto assembly line in the 60's and 70's. Her job was to do some assembly to the right side door and interior panel. With the tight timetable that was required, she found that if the car she was working on was to need a right side mirror installed (one of her tasks), she needed to skip another step somewhere else to catch-up the time lost. She decided that on those cars she would skip the installation of the moisture barrier.

I read a tale of a supervisor on a Corvette assembly line that was attempting to make his own one-off car comprised of options that were not avalible together. All was well until the car was started when he was not nearby. The tester discovered that the car had too much oil pressure and was sent to find out why (big block vs. small block). When it was discovered that the car had the wrong engine, they found out the who and why. The car was changed back, and the guy was fired.


Bill
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Smeed

Wow that is quite a find! On top of being there, that so odd it survived to long.

'73 runabout

77turbopinto

I'm leaving that one alone, literilly!


Bill
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High_Horse

77TurboPinto,
      Wow!!!!   That is a pretty cool find. I never found any cups All I ever found was a used crank boot.


                                                                                             Trash-Talkin_Horse
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

77turbopinto

Yea, I hate "Dealer Installed Options" like that.  ;)

I prefer "Factory Equipment".


Bill
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r4pinto

Bill, that is a neat find. Alot better than the unopened pack of turkey sausage I found in the trunk panel opening. Boy was that disgusting. The car sat for atleast 2 years before I bought it, so who knows how long it was there.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
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77turbopinto

I had some time today to spend off of my PC, and I figured I would get some work done on the tan car's color change. While I was removing the right rear spoiler corner piece, I dropped it's upper mount bolt into the quarter well. I reached down into it only to find a strange object in there. I carefully remove this object and look at it. It's a #@$%! coffee cup! Now I start thinking about this; HOW in the HECK did that get in there? It can't have gotten in there except the way it came out, the top. With the car having that cover installed when I got it, along with the car only having 32K on it; it could not have 'just fallen' into that area, it had to have been 'placed' there deliberately. I continue thinking (I hate doing that) and wonder, WHO would do such a thing, and WHEN could they have done it? This cup is not in that good of condition as there is always some moisture that gets down there, but with the condition of the car, it was still protected fairly well. My attention now turns to the cup itself and I find some writing on it. The cup has some 'stuff' and dirt on parts of it, and it is hard to read more than a few letters. The word "Zero" is clear, and with some effort, it looks like "Defects" MIGHT be after it. "Could it have....?" pops in my head; I unfold the bottom of the cup to see the words "Copywrite 1968 Ford Motor Company". Mystery solved!

This tells two things, 1) Canadian built Pintos came with cup holders. 2) Canadians have long arms.

I was very disappointed that I was never able to find the build sheet, but I plan to keep this little part of my car's history and show it off with my car.


Bill
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