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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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beegle55

My Pinto, through verifying from reliable sources connected to the car, only has 1,621 orig. ROAD mileage. Keep in mind this Pinto has been a racer for at least 15 years if not longer. But it still wouldn't have over 10,000 going down a 1/8mi track for most its life.
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turbo74pinto

my current 74 hatch is showing 25k.  probably 125k.  i had 2 others that i had to get rid of. the 76 wagon had around 125k and the 78 wagon had 90k.
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Pintony

Hello Group,
I've got 300,000 on 10 Pintos. How much does that average out to be??? :lol:
From Pintony
Really... I have
28 on my 71 1/2 hatch
58 on the Red wagon
54 on the Green rollin in my Pinto
68 on the Purple Pinto
112 on the Green woody
80 on the Purple 73
66 on the Blue 73 Fact. moonroof Pinto
The rest are Unknown as I have never driven them.
From Pintony

dga57

My 1972 sedan has 76,000 miles and runs like a top... albeit, a really s-l-o-w  top :lol:
Dwayne
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

chrisf1219

my 77 wagon has got 75000 on it and runs great. weekend toy. chris in ca.
77 wagon auto 2.3  wagons are the best and who knew I like flames on a pinto!!!!

apintonut

Quote from: dave1957 on February 29, 2008, 03:11:55 PM
Unfortunately I have more miles towing or pushing my pinto than driven miles Hopefully this weekend that will change!!

aka id rather push my pinto rather than drive a chevy!  :tgif:
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71HANTO

Quote from: earthquake on February 29, 2008, 12:25:12 PM
Old post I know but I just rolled over 487,000 a couple of weeks ago while out with farmboy and apintonut.

My 71 Hanto tribute (or Pintotus if you prefer but sounds like a illness...and may be!) has 24,500 original miles in 38 years. At this rate, it will take over 700 years to reach 487K!! :lol:
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dave1957

Unfortunately I have more miles towing or pushing my pinto than driven miles Hopefully this weekend that will change!!
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earthquake

Old post I know but I just rolled over 487,000 a couple of weeks ago while out with farmboy and apintonut.
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Original74

I just saw this post today.

My 1979 sedan "Jade" has 429 miles on her. I did get a copy of the original owners title and when the sold it in 1999 after 20 years of ownership, it had 129 miles on it.

It is nice to read of some 200K and 300K Pinto's out there.

Dave
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1974 Sedan, 'Geraldine', 45,000 miles, orange and white, show car.
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High_Horse

ThunderPinto had 103,000 on it when I did the v-8 conversion about 3 years ago. I have logged about 15,000 since then. Although in the garage for the winter it stands road ready.

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Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

dave1987

Mine's got 148,000 something, coming close to 149,000.  It's gone through several oil an coolant changes, three clutch rebuilds, countless tires, no transmission work besides a few flushes and one engine rebuild + radiator.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

pintoguy76

I know for sure my old 76 MPG had 244k on it, and i am pretty convinced that it was more like 344k. Now i have a 74 Wagon with 98k, a 76 MPG Pony with 152k, and a 79 that has 98k on the car. Not sure on the engine, im thinking its got 2 or 3 times that. Was all i had for a spare tho...:) The 79 has not seen the road (cept the testdrive i took it on a few days ago) in 16 years!. The interior is pretty nice on it. The body isnt too bad either.
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Ponygal

Nothing compared to Dave's beauty, but my girl has 60,000 original miles. Amazingly low mileage for someone who is used to 200,000km + on most of my vehicles. My truck just rolled 300,000km last week.

I must say, Dave's car is spectacular.
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apintonut

that more than i can do right at this minuet, but i have the wife's pinto runs and drive so dose two of my parts car well tell tomorrow then one of the is beings striped.
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Smeed

Um... I drove my car around the block three times so far.....

'73 runabout

apintonut

well my 75 i drove it for round table during the day and pizza hut at night. i also earned the nick name taxi for always been the designated driver and allot of other taxing people around. (and the yellow with black hood helped) the car never got parked.
i had to changed the oil weekly, the tires monthly, the brakes every two months and the tranny or starter every three months or so.  i worked both jobs for 4 years of the five i had the car.
i bout the car for 40$ with 32,000 original and think it had about 6-700,000 when i sold it to a friend for 20$. because he had a kid on the way and was hurting for a car he had it for 2.5 years and got another 100,000 on it. when the engine let go.

i then got a 72 wagon that i put a esslinger 2275 crate engine in had it for 2 year it just got normal driving and some racing.

now i have a 74 that i have been haling around for five years now and only driving it maybe
1-200 miles a year till last summer when i caught it on fire.
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crazyhorse

I never want a car I can't, or won't drive.

For the record, mine's showing 98K on the odometer, Is that 198, 298, or even 398? I dunno.
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Lost Coz

I know this isn't a ego contest, so let me throw this out there.  My first 73 Pinto Wagon had over 350,000 miles on it when I sold it. Went thru 2 complete engine overhauls, 4 clutches, 2 trans overhauls, oil and filter changes every 3500 miles or 100 changes, can't remember how many batteries and other electrical parts, and who knows how many sets of tires.  I only sold it so I could buy another 73 wagon without the ugly (this is personal) roof rack and all the faded Squire side junk.  I'm only throwing this out because I thought Pinto's were to drive. One with 450 miles on it must look good sitting in the garage.  Mine looks good driving down the road. Besides, lots of people like to look at it and talk about it with me.  More fun driving it around, or so I think. Don't see very many on the road these days. That's half the fun of owning the car. 
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apintonut

ok the lowest is 450 miles u say.wow!  right on!!! where the pics of that one?
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Pintaro

Daves is what?450 miles.Is that about right Dave?

Pintony

Quote from: apintonut on December 14, 2007, 02:48:09 AM
we know that the lowest mileage pinto is 9,800 miles.
dose any one know the most mile ever documented on a pinto?



WOW U R way OFF!!!!
Right Dave???!!!!

apintonut

we know that the lowest mileage pinto is 9,800 miles.
dose any one know the most mile ever documented on a pinto?
74 hatch soon to be turbo 2.3
73 sedan soon to be painted
stiletto parts(4 sale)
79 pinto wagon & beentoad
wtb 75 yellow w/ black int. (rally?) like profile pic.