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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Poison Pinto

It's amazing how those little things go a long way toward the light at the end of the tunnel sometimes.
I left my Pinto in front of my house last night. This morning there were two more left with it.

pimpin_pinto

i know whatcha mean, i started working on ym car again, trying to get it running before school, hopefully it happens!!(i have 1 week!) it's exiting knowing the cars so close to being running great!

r4pinto

Good news!!! After the car died in my driveway (it tends to help when you have gas in it) I checked the oil pan, and NO LEAKS!!!! The level's all good, and the car is running... I gotta get some new plugs for it as the ones in there are rather old, but other than that and the bad tranny this car is in the best shape it has been in a long time.... Finally something's going right on this car!!!! I'M SO HAPPY!!!!!! :) :) :)
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

True, but when one has only owned FWD cars before, and was looking at the wrong place, and the previous owner gave him a dipstick, one is easily confused, especially when the dipstick was hidden by the air cleaner lid, but oh well, all is good now. ;D
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Poison Pinto

QuoteHE'S AN IDIOT!!!!! ....I HATE STUPID PEOPLE!!!!

Careful there, Matt. I bit my tongue earlier, even though I could have given you a good ribbing, because I'm not into degrading people who are giving an honest effort and learning as they go (heck, that's me, too)...but not being able to find the dipstick?

One shouldn't yell about others shortcomings until he takes a look at himself.

;)
I left my Pinto in front of my house last night. This morning there were two more left with it.

straw boss

Wow, that's worse than a guy I work with that flushed out his brake system with water after rebuilding the wheel cylinders.
After messing around with a '64 Chevy pickup that I bought three weeks ago, I am convinced that some people should not be allowed to come within arm's length of a wrench.
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SageNip

Usually the people who sell us the Pintos are idiots in the first place.  Otherwise they would have gotten it right the first time and not sold it.  When I bought my wagon, I spent the first year going over and redoing all the repairs that were done to it.  Good luck!
Blacksmith, weldor, sculptor, 8 track collector, Pinto enthusiast, retired sideshow performer, manipulator of flesh and steel.... keep your ponies warm.

r4pinto

I just found out why the oil has moisture in it... You're not goin to believe this, but the guy rinsed the engine out with water after changing the camshaft.

3 words... HE'S AN IDIOT!!!!! I'm going to pull the pan to replace the gasket, so I'll drain the oil then, but I hope no serious damage has been done.

I HATE STUPID PEOPLE!!!!
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

bricker4864

I just ran mine up before I tore it apart. I got 140,140,135,120 on the respective cylinders. The cam went bad; I had an exhaust leak and scratches along the cylinder walls of #4. I thought 140 was pretty good for an engine with a few k miles on it.
Maybe others have different ideas???

r4pinto

I'm not too sure, but I'm almost 100% positive the head gasket has been changed. New valve stem seals were put in the engine before I bought it, so I'm assuming he replaced the head gasket...I will run a compression test though....

What's good compression on the 2.3 L engine?
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

wagonmaster

It could be just a leaking or blown head gasket. Check that first. They're not too bad to replace!
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r4pinto

Already got a book... I actually bought one about a month before I got the Pinto, so I could read up on them a bit.. Poison Pinto helped me find the dipstick, and when I pulled it I found a nasty suprise... white creamy oil.... that pisses me off, as I didn't expect to have to replace the engine.

Besides the obvious could disconnected emmissions and bad blowby cause this?
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Glassman

I had a bad oil leak in my 76.  I knew it was time to add about a quart when the light would come on while turning. I didnt car so much because I was planning an engine swap. Id suggest getting a cheap Haynes or Chilton manual. They are a little vague and dont go deep into some things but they have a great maintence section should be fine for almost everything youre going to need to do. They cost anywhere between $10.00 and $16.00. I buy a manual for each new car I buy. Im still using the manual I bought for my first Pinto 19 (Holey moley) years ago.

My books are still packed and I cant remember what side of the engine the dipstick is on. I think its on the drivers side under the intake manifold. It might be painted yellow. The handle is a circle shape.

r4pinto

Dunno... I can't find the dipstick
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Poison Pinto

What did the dipstick read when you picked the car up, before you added the oil at home, and after you added the oil?
I left my Pinto in front of my house last night. This morning there were two more left with it.

r4pinto

Well,

I put a quart of oil in the engine and the light went out... The engine also sounds quieter.

Thanx for the help
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

OK... Now for the kicker for me

Where is the oil pressure switch located at, and how do I check it?

I'm sorta doubtful that the oil pressure is too low, as I drove the car home from the sellers houise 160 miles without any trouble, other than a dead battery.

I could be wrong, as I often am, but I doubt the car would have made it that far with low oil pressure.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

straw boss

Domino is right.  The engine light is for temperature and oil pressure.  The charging system has its own light.  Since you said it comes on when you put it in gear, my guess is it is coming on because of the oil pressure switch.  With any good luck, you just have a bad switch.  With bad luck, you will have very low oil pressure while idling in gear. 
'80 Sedan, 2.3, EFI, Electromotive TEC3, 75 shot N2O, Esslinger Alum. D port head, 5 speed, 3.55, 15x7 Mustang "10 hole" rims.  Continual project.

domino

The engine light is a combination oil pressure/coolant temp light.  With the engine running and the light on, try disconnecting the wire from each sender on the engine and see which one makes the light go off.  If it is the temperature sender and you are sure the engine is cold, its most likely the sending unit.  If its the oil pressure, I can only offer this:  I once had an old clunker that had leaky seals.  I put in seal stop leak additive and this caused the oil pressure light to stay on.  I flushed the system and added fresh oil and the pressure light worked fine again.

pimpin_pinto

haha, if you wanna hear a funny story, a lil rice boy near me decided he wanted more power for the street races, ok, cheapest way, octane booster, he filled his tank with it, drove to the races, did a race and a burnout, on his 2nd race, just melted the pistons to the block and he couldnt figure out why.  he was wondering why his temp light was on the whole time, lol.

bricker4864

 
Quote from: Poison Pinto on August 20, 2004, 09:45:14 PM
Had it been a "temp" issue, you probably would have seized the engine as the pistons swelled in their cylinders and literally melted themselves to the chamber walls. Later, after a cooldown, you could have restarted the vehicle. But you would have sheered the piston/cylinder weld, forever scarring both block and pistons and causing the engine to smoke as if the rings were bad.

That just sounds like a party!
A car down the street melted the pistons a week or so ago.
Glad it wasn't me!

Poison Pinto

You'd be surprised. The more notable issue with oil pressure is "ticking." If you didn't hear it, you're probably okay. A car will still run fine for a while with low oil pressure/level. The light usually comes on when you have severely low oil levels (like 2 qts in a 5qt system). Even then, you're still oiling the pistons, just not as efficiently as when properly filled.

Had it been a "temp" issue, you probably would have seized the engine as the pistons swelled in their cylinders and literally melted themselves to the chamber walls. Later, after a cooldown, you could have restarted the vehicle. But you would have sheered the piston/cylinder weld, forever scarring both block and pistons and causing the engine to smoke as if the rings were bad.
I left my Pinto in front of my house last night. This morning there were two more left with it.

r4pinto

Yeah,

That's where I'm confused... I know all the emmissions crap has been disconnected, but is still there, but on the other hand, as you stated, there is no oil or coolant light, so it is confusing.

I don't think it's a oil pressure l,ight though, cuz if it was I would have never made approximately a 160 mile trip home without the engine blowing up
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Poison Pinto

I'm guessing red.

;D

j/k

Fault in the alternator or belt is not properly adjusted. This from my Ford Pick-Up and Bronco manual. They shift from calling it the "engine" light to calling it the "ignition" light. (My Pinto manual doesn't seem to cover this at all...at least not in an easily notable place).

[Edit: I finally found it under "ignition" light (?) on page 131 of my Haynes manual.]

Oddly, why they would have both an "Engine"/"Ignition" and an "Alternator" light for such a problem is a bit perplexing. It could also be an emissions problem (or bad exhaust sensor depending on year/exhaust system), "oil" light, or "temperature" light (neither my 72 nor my 74 have "oil" or "temperature" lights).

If I were you, I'd replace the alternator (as from your descriptions this is a given), replace the fan belts and make sure they're properly adjusted, change the coolant and thermostat, change the plugs, change the oil, and change the filters (oil, air, and fuel). It may not hurt to squirt a little Marvel's Mystery Oil in the plug holes to top-lube the rings since the car probably hasn't run for a while. You may also want to run a quart of MMO in place of a quart of regular oil for a few hundred miles when you change the oil.

If your light still comes on after you've replaced the general stuff, I'd turn my attention to the timing and exhaust.
I left my Pinto in front of my house last night. This morning there were two more left with it.

r4pinto

Hey all,

I'm sorta new to Pintos, and I got a question...

After replacing all my fuses I noticed there was one marked engine that keeps coming on, mainly when I put the car in gear...

What is this light??
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress