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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Drivetrain comparisons and opinions

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pintoguy76

I'm going with a 2.3 turbo in mine with a T5 5 speed.  The 2.3 turbo doesnt add much weight to the front of the car, if any (because the battery has to be put in the back). The fuel injection eliminates hard starts, long warmups, and slow throttle responce. The 4 cylinder also does not produce mass power down low, and that combined with no additional (or minor) weight up front gives better traction. The 4 cylinder will handle better too because there wont be as much extra weight up front over the wheels. Overall the driveability will be better also with the 2.3T. You can tune the boost up and down as needed its not too hard. That will eliminate the need for the expensive fuel. Plus you can add water, alcohol, or propane injection and use the high boost even on the street with only premium fuel. With the N/A 4 cylinder you will have to have high compression which you will need the high octane fuel with. I dont know if the premium fuel with alcohol/water/propane injection thing works on that or not. No matter what way you go, you will have to modify the drivetrain unless you happen to be lucky and find a car with a C4 and an 8" rear from the factory. I dont think many C4s were used in pintos, and ive only got one pinto (out of 3) that has an 8" rear and no one really knows why. It doesnt have any other options whatsoever. But yet my wagon has a 6.75. Wierd. Anyways. In my opinion the 2.3 turbo is the best way to go. It gives the performance, drivability, handling, etc that the other options just dont quite touch. There are downsides to all options, but i think the 2.3 efi turbo has the least. This is all true if you are like me and want your pinto to be daily driven. I dont beleive in having a car i cant drive on the street. So, no dedicated drag cars for me. Now if that is your thing, Cut the car up, Tub it out, put in a sub frame, gut it, put in a built to the max V8, and some big a$$ tires and whatever else and im sure you'd be fine. But, dont plan on driving that on the street much :D;D
1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E

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Fuel consumption with the V-8 does not have to be bad. Get a modern roller 5.0 motor put a mild (or stock) cam in it. Add a set of modest aluminum heads and shorty headders with an AOD or 5-speed and I bet you'll turn 20+ MPG. The car would haul butt even with 3.00 gears. My old 5.0 Mustang with mild mods got 22-24 MPG on the freeway. Of course you'll probably  get over 30 MPG with the turbo motor but you will always be buying the expensive premium gas.

popbumper

NIce, guys. Love the forum, that's the kind of experience/comments I can really get something out of. Part of my rationale for asking these questions is exactly as H_H stated - it depends on what you start with. I know of a 1971 hatch car available locally that had a 289 in it, and has a 302 for sale with it, plus has been set up for 5 lug on both axles; the swap over is pretty much straightforward as a result. Good car to start with.

On the other hand, I really would like a 4 cylinder, because it would be unique, and a wagon has always been more interesting to me, since I miss my '79 so much.

Regardless, I greatly appreciate the feedback, and y'all taking the time. It's gonna happen, just not sure when.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

turbopinto72

A few other things to think about.

V8s are/can be traction issues. Its is very hard to use all the Hp/torque that a V8 develops unless you really build the rear half of the car accordingly. My 289 car was real fun to drive but I had to be careful with it because the rear would come around pretty easly.

The 2.3-2.5 turbos are a lot of fun. The do require a bunch of fabricating if you want to keep it all under the hood. You can lower the motor mounts like I did on my car and get it all stuffed under their nicely though. As for a 2.0 turbo, thats a little easier especially if you use a carb. The 4 cylinder engines are also more forgiving on the drive train.

An all Alluminum Esslinger USAC N/A engine would be a LOT of fun with a set of Webbers on it. ( its only money though)

As far as drive trains go. I have put 400+ hp and equal that torque through an  8" rear end ( both the 289 and the 2.5 turbo) and have not had any issues. I have used a T-5 and C4 both successfully both in racing and on the street. I sheered the flywheel off the crank in my 2.5 with the T-5, but the trans held up nicely. On the C4 I blew out the Servo gasket ( lost about 2 Qts of oil in about 30 seconds). but thats all. When I ran a modified 2.0 ( non turbo), stock 4 speed and stock 6 3/4 I thrashed it at the Drag strip. The rear end held up fine but all the synchros in the trans were thrashed. Its to easy these days to find a T-5 and swap it out with the 4 speed anyway.

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Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

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I agree with H/H, you need to look at what you have, can get/do, and your goals.

I have seen it posted in a few places where the V6 is lighter than a 2.3. I would imagine that the engine C/G is slightly to the rear which might also require softer springs; I don't know.

From some other posted info, not all V6 cars came with the 8" rear.

IMHO:

In your V8 section:

1) The V8 is heavy, and fairly far forward in the engine bay. I would put this as a Minus. I think the 'power to weight' winner is the 2.3T EFI.

2) Ford V8 engines are out there for short money, but Mustang II v8 specific parts are not cheap (for the most part, but they can still be found at a reasonable price). Although the cars are NOT identical to a Pinto, these parts make some of the swap 'easier'. I would put the latter aspect as a Minus.

8) ADDED: The sound of a 302 Pinto with dual Flo-Masters..... Big Plus


In your turbo section (I assume 2.3T EFI)

3) + 4) I also assume you are referring to "VS. a V8"? LOTS of parts still need to be custom fabricated; as much, if not more than the V8 thing. If you want to close the hood and hide the 2.3T EFI, even more work is needed then hiding the V8. As having both, each have their work.

5) Dealing with the electronics. Athough not all that complicated, it seems to be a big issue with many people doing, or thinking of this swap. Minus.


In your "Built" 4 cylinder section:

3) You will still need to swap the tranny and maybe the rear too. No stock Pinto tranny will hold up in the long run (or short depending). Some argue that the 6.75" rear can be durable, but I have not had such luck.

Added: 6) Getting good power will decrease 'daily drive-ability', depending on a few things you (could) do to get power. Minus


Bill
Thanks to all U.S. Military members past & present.

High_Horse

PopBumper,
     That is a pretty braud question. It depends who you are and what you have to work with. If you are going to v-8 a pinto use a v-6 car because they already have the front suspension and 8 inch rearend. If you use the drivetrain from a Turbo thunderbird you have to change the rearend but the front suspension is ok. The cheapest easiest transmission is automatic unless you are using a standard shift car. Allot of the decision begins with the car you have to start with or that you are planning to aquire.

                                                                                                                       High_Horse
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

popbumper

In the ever increasing effort to "drive" (no pun intended) towards a better understanding of what, perhaps, I want to do, I am grappling with the question of drivetrains. I know that several of you run V8's, several of you run stock, and some even explore the turbo world.

If I can lend some "lack of understanding", would you guys kindly direct me towards whether the comments I am making are accurate or not? I obviously have a lot to learn - but I want to understand this better. Being an engineer, I MUST explore options instead of just jumping in.

OK, given that, here is what I see as the pro's and con's of various platforms. Tell me if you agree, disagree, and why you personally would choose one format over another.

V8

1) Plus - Excellent power/weight ratio
2) Plus - Reasonable cost - V8's are plentiful, aftermarket parts are plentious
3) Plus - Personality - the point of jamming big horses in a small car is just "cool"
4) Minus - Drivetrain must be adjusted (different tranny, rear end)
5) Minus - no "drop in", you must modify and add proper motor mounts
6) Minus - Suspension must be adjusted (heavier springs all around)
7) Minus - Fuel consumption

Turbo 4 cylinder

1) Plus - high horsepower in a compact footprint
2) Plus - more reasonable fuel economy
3) Plus - Less modification to the drivetrain/suspension (true)?
4) Plus - drop in
5) Minus - Not sure

"Built" 4 cylinder

1) Plus - a beefed up /rebuilt standard aspirated 4 cylinder is rare - and neat
2) Plus - No need to rearrange the engine compartment
3) Plus - no major mods to drivetrain/suspension required
4) Minus - EXPENSIVE - because it's a "rare beast", specialized parts are gonna hurt
5) Minus - unless you spend BIG BUX, you will not derive the horses you can from a turbo or V8

For me, if money was no object, I would really LOVE to have something like an Esslinger racing motor, because it's not something you see every day. A V8 would be next.

Can anyone share some ideas/corrections to this? THANKS!

Chris

Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08