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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

2.0 to 2.3 in 72 Pinto

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ahawes

So you didn't move them any more forward or rearward, just down? Thanks for the info
Adam
71 Runabout

turbopinto72

Quote from: wantapinto on May 17, 2006, 11:19:30 PM
OK guys, After todays info and talking to Esslinger I have decided to put the 2.3 in the 72. I need the motor mounts that I have to weld on the frame and the brackets on the engine...Anybody want to sell me some?? I have the photos posted of what I need. Thanks. Dave in Az.

Those mounts are from my car. I also lowered the mounts so I could clear the TB etc with the hood shut.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

ahawes

Pintony, you mention earlier in this thread to take the 2.0 motor mounts out and use the holes to line up the 2.3 mounts and then weld them on. What kind of relationship should the 2.3 mounts have in regard to these other holes? Thanks
Adam
71 Runabout

UltimatePinto

When all is ready, it sure makes life a lot easier if you have a bare block, (minus the internals, externals and cylinder head), to use as a locating unit after it's bolted to your transmission. It's a lot easier to move around and you have a nice flat surface for your level for side to side layout, plus with a protractor and level you can get a better idea of your engine/tranny angle in regards to the rear differential after your transmission mount is located.
I had to move the passenger side motor mount in my 72 Runabout due to a header conflict and that's what I did.
Granted I only had to move one side and the rest of my drive train was already installed, driveshaft included.. I could have raised the location a tad taking into consideration lost weight but I didn't as I had the driver's side in the original position to locate from and two new pads to use. Two liter pads have a good measure of room to move between their mounts. Your case may or may not require some consideration in this area if you choose to use a bare block for your install. Looking at the pics it seems as though the 2300 pads/mounts are tighter than the 2000 so it wouldn't make a difference.
What do you think folks ?

Al

wantapinto

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1972 Pinto.  Disc brakes, Blue,

wantapinto

OK guys, After todays info and talking to Esslinger I have decided to put the 2.3 in the 72. I need the motor mounts that I have to weld on the frame and the brackets on the engine...Anybody want to sell me some?? I have the photos posted of what I need. Thanks. Dave in Az.
1972 Pinto.  Disc brakes, Blue,

wantapinto

Thanks PintoTony!!! It was your lead that got me this car and engines..and STUFF. My measuring tape is heating up! Thanks again, Dave in Az.
1972 Pinto.  Disc brakes, Blue,

Pintony

Hello Dave,
The stock motor mount for the 2.0 has 2 bolts each.
Use those holes to position your 2.3 mounts and weld down the sides of the mount for extra strength.
The 2.0 mount is spot welded so you will have to drill out the spot or use a chisel to cut the welds to remove the old 2.0 mount.


From Pintony

wantapinto

Thank You Very Much. That was exactly what I was looking for. So you leave the stock crossmember in place. Remove the stock 2.0 mounts off of the crossmember area...Weld in the new mounts.

Sounds like ,bolt the engine and trans in the car at the trans mount and let the engine tell you where to weld the mounts in. Would a level on the carb mounting surface do for determining the position of the bracket?

Thanks again for taking the time to post those photos. THey should be in a thread in the How To section. Great post!

Dave
1972 Pinto.  Disc brakes, Blue,

turbopinto72

If you go to " Your Racers" and look up " 72 2.5 Turbo Pinto" then go to page 2 and 3 you will see my 72 with 2.3 motor mounts in it.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

wantapinto

That is a photo of a owner modified 2.3 in where a 2.0 was. I still have not been able to talk to someone who has done it themselves. When I do I will share photo's procedures ect with you all. With how popular this swap is I am sure someone has made a photo story of the swap.

I do not think I will do it with my Blue 72 because the car is just too straight to start welding on ect. I will save my 2.3 race stuff until I get a 74 or later.
1972 Pinto.  Disc brakes, Blue,

UltimatePinto

Here's a question to consider. If you look at the rack & pinion hold down strap in the picture, (on the right hand side), it looks to me as though it's the eariler version. 71/72 for sure, not sure about the 73's.
Didn't the 74 and later versions have two bolts securing the steering unit located from the front?
My guess is that this vehicle was converted from 2 to 2.3 already. I don't think the 2.3's were an option in 73.

Al

pintoracer02

The mounts on the frame are different for sure but I havent seen a 2.0 up closely so I dont know if the mounts from the motor are the same.  If not you should be able to find motor mounts easily.  But you will definitely have to weld knew mounts from a 2.3 pinto onto the frame.
Bass Ackwards

UltimatePinto

Those sure look like 2300 mounts to me. They sure are not any two liter that I've ever seen. This is in a 74 right?? ??? ,, as that's when i think the 2300's came out.
Your best bet would probably to compare bolt patterns on the engine block as well as the mounts themselves. I think that you'll find they are located differently from front to rear.
You may also want to look in the FAQ section in this forum. I'll bet you will find something in there to help. The Projects and General Talk also, you just have to spend some time and do some diggin'
Unless I got it backwards, (as I more often that not do), and your looking to put the two liter back and take the 2300 out.  ::)

Al

wantapinto

Heres a photo of the 74 mounts in early car.
1972 Pinto.  Disc brakes, Blue,

UltimatePinto

A "down the road" project that I have is placing a turbo 2300 w/auto tranny in a 71 Sedan.
Although I haven't studied it closely, my first guess is that you will have to change the motor mounts. Not that hard if you have access to cutting tools and a mig welder. Keeping the right drive train geometry, (up - down,  left - right), would be a factor to carefully consider before welding in the new mounts.
If you have an eight inch rear differential I would choose to use it in place of the 6 & 3/4.
Depending upon what you choose for a transmission may necessitate some mount modifications or mount placement for that.
After that you may have to make up a driveshaft for your particular combination.
Nothing, that I would bet many in this forum have already done, that should be all that hard.

Al

wantapinto

What do you have to do to swap a 2.3 engine for a 2.0?

Can you use the stock frame mounts?

I just bougth a 72 with a 2.0 and It came with an extra 2.3 engine(and a trailer of stuff ) and an cast iron head ported and large valves ect from Esslinger.

Is it a pain to fit the 2.3?

Thanks for your answers
1972 Pinto.  Disc brakes, Blue,