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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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pintoguy76

I was thinking it was for a line to the decel valve, too. Reguardless, its unhooked on my 74 and is capped on my 76.
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fast34

I am not totally sure but... I think that is suppossed to activate under wide open throttle. It allows more air to escape due to the high volume of fuel that comes rushing in. Honestly, I think you could either leave it open or try plugging it and the carb will still work. They vent internally (inside the air cleaner area) and usually it is enough.

Typrus

Alright. Fantastic.
My carb also has a feed-out to a charcoal canister. I'll have to find out what controls its venting though. Might be a direct-hook-up situation.
I'd assume that the solenoid is basically the primative Fuel-Cut Solenoid circuit? If so, I'll have to figure out which of my 2 Fuel Cut Solenoid feeds to give it. Now that I know where the tube goes, I have to find out where the wiring goes.

Thanks guys, you're saving me the 20 mile trip to the salvage yard.

fast34

Usually a charcoal canister, or back into the air cleaner.

Typrus

I wasn't trying to pick on anything. I just find it sad that the penny pinchers had to screw up a good thing.
Ok, so where is the tube supposed to go?

fast34

That's not a decel valve but rather a float bowl vent. It may br a CA car it came off of, the had to vent theirs differently than the other 48.  Decel valve controls the idle, and is generally located near the linkage of the carb.

grgic

QuoteI would find a earlier version from the inferior 2.0L...
What do you mean inferior. it may have been earlier but i would in NO way call the 2.0 inferior to the 2.3.
I can understand the toyota guy picking on the gas tank but us pinto guys(and gals)got to stick together ;D

Typrus

My engines in a bit better shape than the one I referenced... I just didn't have any pics with the air cleaner off so I referenced someone elses.

Well, judging by all the people doing Weber 32/36 DGV converts on these cars, I'm quite hopeful.

Considering I have been known to exceed 120mph in the downhills with my stock POS Aisan, we'll see what Mr. Holley-Weber does for me. I just have to know what to hook that thing up to. And need to buy the conversion adapter mounting pad... Though its designed for a DGV and this is a DFV. We'll have to see if that severely effects anything. Worst-case scenario, I'll be custom-fabbing some throttle linkage to jump it back over and counter-clockwise.

I have a rebuild waiting for funding to get the core componants that this will eventually go on. As such I may keep stock Pinto jetting. The Pinto was, what? 90HP? I'm pushing 62 right now, maybe 70 post-Holley on my current engine.
The rebuild has-
5-angle ported head and shaved head for +.6 compression planned... Just need $$$ for the $130 port and polish. Decking costs $20
Holley 5200 Carb for more air in.
Schneider cam. Give you an idea- stock cam has int/exh lift and duration of .213 and 204 deg. Smallest of my 7 Schneider options has .429" lift on both and 220 degrees on both. Just a wee step up, eh? Hottest option being 256 duration and .465" lift.
Double-Spring valve springs
If I can find them, roller-rockers
Hoping to do 4:1 equal-length tubular headers.
Hoping to afford an MSD Electronic ignition.

Rebuild kit includes all the standard replacement items, substitute race-style bearings and High-Volume oil pump.

I'd also like to do one of those continuously variable electronic water pumps with an all-aluminum radiator.


We'll see if my little block can take it  :evil:

douglasskemp

That'll be one heck of an upgrade let me tell you.  A buddy of my granddad had one of those old Chevy Luv trucks, and it wasn't exactly a performance machine.  He swapped on an old carb my dad had off of a 75 Pinto, and MAN  :o did that thing wake up!  It was so light in the rear that he couldn't take off in first at full throttle.  He'd take off easy, shift to second, and mash the throttle to the floor.  That thing would catch rubber going from 2nd to third no problem.  :surprised:
Let us know how it turns out.
--Doug
The Pinto I had I gave to my brother. The car was originally my mom's, (78 red Pinto sedan with a 2.3 and a 4spd.) I am originally from Tucson, AZ but moved to Oxnard CA :D
I'm looking for a Pinto wagon with an automatic.

Typrus

Thank you very much for the response. I can't seem to get an answer anywhere, so yours is great to hear. But just for clarification-- (sorry about the blue-ness)


You know, I dunno if I so much have a problem with having one or 2 emissions things hooked up... But compared to this-



Anything is good.

BTW, this is the car in question-


Starliner

I think that tube goes to the de-acceleration valve.  You can plug it.
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Typrus

I figured as much. Thanks.

But I am curious as to what the other tube goes to. I didn't think enough to look while I was grabbing it. Do the Pinto's have a charcoal canister that tube feeds to? Can anyone tell me the electrical system for it/ what it feeds off? And where does that tube go to? If I can find out where they went I can figure out where they go.

Thanks much.

FCANON

Yes the Carb is a Webber design built under contract by Holley... as for Jets and so forth I have been getting mine from the fellow at www.Stovebolt.com (I think thats the web site) as for tuning it to fit the 1.6L motor I would find a earlier version from the inferior 2.0L...most of them are easy to pick out by the 4 screw in air cleaner studs made under the name Motorcraft and Autolite. I have two of these on my dual twobarrel intake I have casted for the 2.3L....I also run the Holley Webber on my 3.3L in line six in my 1960 Falcon...

Best of luck
Frank
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Typrus

Alrighty then, since either nobody here knows, or is not willing to help, I'll put down what I've found.

Holley 5200 Progressive 2-bbl carburetor.
Manufactured by Holley, design liscened by Weber of Italy.
32/36 Progressive Mechanically linked 2ndary carburetor

This carb is very close to a clone of the Weber 32/36 DFV series. The DFV series is the mirror image of the DGV series in that the Primary and secondary are switched, and the throttle shafts roate in opposite direction. CCW for DGV, CW for DFV.

I have yet to get a whole lot more info than that.

I do recommend Parker Carburetion. The gentleman who runs it has been quite helpfull thus far.

I do have another question though... What is the function of the plug connected to what appears to be a solenoid that regulates venting out of a tube across from main fuel feed? Anyone?

Typrus

My computer crashed last time I tried to post this... We'll see if it works this time.

So I just grabbed a carb off the 1979 Pinto Runabout. Why? I was informed they came factory with a Weber 32/36 DGV series. As such, I went and grabbed one from a junkyard Pinto.
My questions are this- Is it actually a 32/36? It certainly looks correct, but I just need to check.
Does anyone know the stock jet sizing? This carb will be going on my 1.5L SOHC 4-banger. As such, I don't want to flood it out if the jets for the Pinto's (2?)L engine.
Anyone know of a good source for a carb kit for it?

The car it'll be going on is a 1984 Toyota Tercel 4wd wagon. Ugly, underpowered, but loved.

I really appreciate any help I can get, and I complement you all on your efforts to keep a cult car alive. I know the feeling.
Heck, I might even have a Pinto if Ford's penny-pinchers would've allowed that gas tank bladder into production...