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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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75bobcatv6

i am using a 95 mustang engine/trans but the S/C thats is going on it is from a 95 merc Cougar, the mounts i am using are two leftside 2.3l mounts. (it works) so 250-275hp est. im going to attempt with a cam and everything to get about 350 hp out of it if i can. as you can tell i dont plan on it being a total show car. =)  i dotn know if the granada had the 9" rear but the 8in will fit but the perches might be a little off. its best to find a pinto rear end from a v6 model. and from what i understand from the forum swapping a later model motor into the older ones is a little harder but im sure its worth it on a lighter car.

Carolina Boy

Thanks for the info on the 8". I will do some reseach on rotors and share later. 3.8 huh, Isn't that the engine that they used in the Thunderchicken SC, that was also available SUPERCHARGED? I beleive it was the 1989-90 models. Wouldn't that be an awsome Pinto power plant (210-225 HP)??? Are you fabing the motor mounts or what?

I am starting to get many ideas from yall, hope I can sort all this out and share a wicked car with ya.

One more question: Do the difference between the 71-73 and the 74-80 Pinto make engine swaps of later model engines more or less difficult or limited?
You mentioned a Granada for an 8" rear, didn't they come with a 9" also and if so would it fit under a Pinto?

Suppertime yall.
Carolina Boy
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

75bobcatv6

Im installing the mustang 3.8 in mine, you can get an 8in rear from a pinto that came with the v6 in it or a mustang/mavrick.  as to the rotors i think you have to buy a kit to convert them to 5lug or have it drilled for it.

Carolina Boy

Well said there Dwayne, I just thought I find one close to home and tow it. It is hard for me to get time off from work. I may be retired but I work for an apartment company full time. I am currently on worker's comp waiting for surgery on my neck. They are going to fuse two more vertebrea together. I should be recovered by mid Jan to go back to work. I plan on using my year end bonus to buy my new plaything (Hey I mean the car, GEEWEZ GUYS, that kind of plaything :devil: is too expensive, and talks back!!!!) :rolleye:

I'll let all ya in on a secret. My Master plan is to build a trailer first, for going and getting the new baby.I plan on building it to be a work platform also as I have no garage yet.

Now I have a few questions: ??? ???
1. Is there a five lug rotor fron another car that will work on the '71 spindle or am I going to have to have one redrilled?
2. Where do you get the 8" rearend from?
3. Has anyone of yall thought about using the Ranger 4.0 V6?


Carolina Boy
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

dga57

Hey Robert!

You might have to do like I always do... drive it home!  I've purchased four collector cars over the past several years and drove every single one of them home; not that it's a lot cheaper than shipping, but it's a lot more fun.  The longest distance I've covered was with my '79 Continental Mark V from Illinois to Virginia.  My Continental Collector's Series came from Myrtle Beach, SC, my Pinto from Maryland, and I also purchased a Cadillac in Pennsylvania which I fixed up a little and resold.  Getting it home is half the fun!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Carolina Boy

Didn't mean to look like I just walked away from the post, it was late and us old men have to get our beauty rest.
Today, I have been checking out the rest of the club site and I'm getting some good ideas. I noticed there aren't a lot of NCs.
I tried to put a pin in the Members map and didn't secceed.
There is not a lot of people saleing Pintos around here. I looked in the classifeds on the site, But everyone That is in my range is so far away, shipping would be a fortune. I'm not going to give up! There's a pinto just waiting for a new daddy.

Carolina Boy
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

dga57

Have driven that route from my sister-in-law's to my mother/father-in-law's several times. 
Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

75bobcatv6

Firstly welcome to the site, Secondly ./salute and thank you.

Carolina Boy

Yea, if you left Danville going South on Rt 86, you would go by my house in about an hour or so.

Robert (Carolina Boy) :lol:
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

dga57

I'm vaguely familiar with that area... my in-laws live in Danville, VA.  At one time, they lived in High Point.
Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Carolina Boy

I am between Raleigh and Greensboro east of Mebane. I'm just above Chapel Hill.


Carolina Boy ;D
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

dga57

 :welcome: Carolina Boy!

What part of North Carolina are you in?  My wife has family in Charlotte. 

My first Pinto was a '74 Runabout, also orange with black interior.  It had the 2300 cc with a 4 spd. and I dearly loved it.  I ordered it to my specifications in the Fall of '73 and it arrived in January of '74.  I was 16 at the time!  I paid $2900 for it straight out... $700 down and $72 per month for 36 months!  Those were the days!  When I finally get my '72 finished, it will be orange too... already have the black interior.  Hoping for this Spring.

As much as I like my little '72 sedan, I would part ways with it in a heartbeat if an orange '74 Runabout came along with black interior... that has been my dearest desire. 

Welcome aboard!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Carolina Boy

 :o
I just joined the site, so Hello from North Carolina. Didn't know there was a club for Pintoers. I have always loved the Pinto as it was my first car. It was a 1971 Pinto sedan, 2000cc 4 speed, Orange w/ black interior, black rubber flooring and a radio. Bought mine new (well a demonstrator) early in 1971 for $1495. It had 18 miles on it.
Two weeks later I shipped out to Air Force basic training. Mom drove it around for 8 weeks till I came home in route to my training base in in Texas, Sheppard AFB. Then it took me to Alamorgordo, NM, Holloman AFB. After 1/2 a year I got transfered to Saigon, S. Vietnam, so I drove it back home where mom took it over again. I came back 9 months later, picking up the car in route to the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs, Co. Still again I drove back home and mom took over again. I headed back to the "NAM as a WSO (back seater) in F4D Phantoms. Two years later I came home and first thing I did was kiss Mom and then took the car out for a wash, polish, and new tires and wheels. I spent a total of 23 years in the Air Force, regular and reserve and retired in 1993 after the Gulf war. Mom took care of my car everytime I went overseas. I sold it in 1983 to my niece and she totaled it :accident: a year later while I was in Germany. That was a heart breaker :(. I t wasn't the same coming home. Since then I have had two 73s a '78 and an '80, all sedans.
I don't have a Pinto at this time but I am planning on getting another 1971 like the first one and resto mod it. I just hope I can find one that is a rust bucket due to limited parts. I have read about the Thunderbird Turbo4 and that may be the way I go.

Thanks for letting me remember the past and hope to share my project with yall as it progresses.

Later Carolina Boy
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

dga57

 :welcome: Larry!

Your story sounds a lot like mine - I got my first Pinto brand new while I was still in high school.  It was an orange 1974 Runabout.  At the time, I was dating a girl who was a couple years older and owned a '72.  My family also owned a '72 Squire wagon, a '77 Bobcat Villager wagon, and a '79 Runabout.  There had not been a Pinto/Bobcat in the family since 1981 until I bought a '72 sedan in January of this year.  I purchased it on eBay and, like you, feel I made a friend in the process.  It's in good shape mechanically (I drove it home 165 miles at Interstate speeds) but needs cosmetic restoration.  Have purchased about $1200 worth of parts to do all that with but have not found time to work on it due to family illness.  Am hoping to get the project off the ground in the Spring. 

Glad to have you aboard!

Dwayne :smile:
Shenandoah Valley of Virginia
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

75bobcatv6


71pintoracer

 :welcome: Always glad to have new Pinto lovers on board!! ;D
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

larjohnson

Sir:

It's called Fields Salvage in Greenfield, Indiana.  Don't have the number right off hand, but if you e-mail me a reminder, I'll get it for you.  I think they have a few newer Pintos, one has black interior that is in pretty good shape, probably has the belts.  I will be going there Friday and I'll check that for you.  Yes... they do let you just go out to the yard and look the car over, and get what you want.  Their prices have been very reasonable.  I bought 4 basic items I needed, for under what it would have cost me to pay shipping for one.  Great salvage yard, and easy to work with the folks.  They have what they call MEMORY LANE that's where all the older cars are, and basically they're all in the same area.  I must warn you it's a long walk out there, but it's worth it.  My cell is 765-729-1100 you can feel free to call me, and I'll check while I'm there, to see if they have what you need.  That way you don't make a wasted trip.  Talk to you later..... Larry
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

TOMMYS

LARRY, WELCOME TO THE CLUB.WHERE ARE YOU IN INDIANA.I'D BE INTERESTED IN CHECKING OUT YOUR LOCAL SALVAGE YARD ALSO.I'M IN DAYTON,OHIO.I'M IN NEED OF SOME BLACK SHOULDER SEAT BELTS FOR MY 1980.THEY MIGHT ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER STUFF I'M SEARCHING FOR.DO THEY PERMIT CUSTOMERS IN THE YARD?THOSE TYPE OF YARDS ARE BECOMING DINOSAURS!!!!!!!!LET ME KNOW.THANKS, TOMMYS.

turbopinto72

Welcome to the site. You will find a bunch of good info here.
Brad F
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larjohnson

Hello:
I'm new to FordPinto.com, but not new to the Pinto family.  Had my first 1971 trunk model in High School, my wife bought a 1974 Runabout after graduation, and we bought a 1975 Pinto Squire wagon after we got married.  Last May I bought a 1972 all original Runabout with 33,000 actual miles.  Most recent I bought a 1971 trunk model out of Washington State, and I'm waiting for it to be delivered to Indiana now. Found the 1971 on this site for sale, and the man I purchased it from was very helpful, and I feel I have a new friend.  Anyway, since purchasing the 1971 I found a local salvage yard with 6 Pintos, and have found several parts I'll need for the restoration on the 1971.  I cannot believe I found this gold mine, so close to my home.  Anyway, have been there twice already, and going back for another round in the next couple of days.  Anyway, I'll be posting my progress every once in a while, and monitoring this site for new news from other Pinto fans.  This is a great site, and I'm looking forward to meeting new friends.  Larry
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!