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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Will front body parts interchange?

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crazyhorse

I'm bettin the "foxstang" will be a bunch wider than the pinto, besides it wouldn't look that much different.On the other hand a 78 mustangII clip..........    :P
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TurboPintoDude

OK, I got a strange question for anyone that might have an idea... I got the 78 Wagon (pics on this board) and a friend of mine has an old 79 Mustang... Can ya switch the front clip from the Mustang onto the Pinto, and if ya do, do ya get a Pintang?   ::)

Glassman

Ive been looking at a few pics and it looks like the area around the base of the windshield where the door meets the fender is different. Looks like there is a sharper line that goes from the fender to the back of the door.

WVBobcat77

Pinto Bean,

I'm pretty sure the pictures of the guy's car are on the Pinto Car Club of America's site. But, for some reason, I can't get into the photo's section to tell you for sure.  Maybe you could try.  You'd just have to look at all the pictures, and there are tons, to find the right guy. Then I'd email him and find out how the swap went.  If you don't have time for him to respond, and you think you can make it work, then I'd go for it.

Bill in WV
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WVBobcat77

Hi PintoBean,

There's a guy on one of the other boards (I can't remember which one) who was swapping in an older, 74 I think, front clip on his 79 cause he liked the look of it better, so I know it can be done.  The body line change is so subtle that the only ones who would notice, would be die hard Pinto fans.  I'd say it's up to you.  If you like the look, and have the parts readily available, then go for it.  Keep in mind though, you'll have to change the whole front clip for it to look right.  Unless, of course, you're fabricating it custom.

Bill in WV  :)
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pinto bean

I keep looking at all of the pictures on here and the doors all look the same! Anyone else?

78pinto

i can't really help you for sure, but as a ford employee i can tell you the underbody (innerfenders, rad craddle) would most likely be the same as they only like to change outer sheetmetal on minor model changes. And with the demise of the Pinto around the corner, (they work on engineering two to three years in advance) they wouldn't have made any major changes on a car that was about to be discontinued as tooling and set up would be too costly. I think the fenders and front would bolt right on....but i wouldn't bet MY life on it.
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pinto bean

I just thought of this and it may solve the problem. Has anyone ever taken a door from a 79-80 and put it on a 78 and down or the other way around. That would tell if the front sheetmetal is interchagable. Please help I do not know if I should give the guy the money or wait for another one. It is that I hate to pass it up since it is pratically rust free. Another guy is supposed to bring the money for it at the end of the week and he is going to make it into a dirt track stock car. The only catch on this car is it does not have a title the owner passed away and his family has the title. The guy talked to them before and they said that they would give him the title for the tow bill. So someone help me before I wait to long or make a mistake and buy it.

pinto bean

WVBobcat77 have you tried putting fenders off of a 74-78 on a 79-80 if so what part of the body lines are different. I am really interested and the sooner you could post something would be helpful because I am going to give the guy the money in the morning if I can swap it over to the round headlight style grille. I am just not to paticular about the square headlights. Also I  think that I will just put a different front clip on it so from the doors back what bodylines are different? Please help.

WVBobcat77

All sheet metal will interchange from 74-78.  The body style changed in 79-80 models.  You can swap 79-80 for 74-78, it's been done, but the body lines are slightly different.  But Pinto people are different anyway so, what the hey!!!   :D
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Brando

shoot i cant remember excatly how different they were...

mainly swapped them cause the 78's fender had a huge dent in it where the metal was stretched and it wasnt pretty.

the hood of the 78 and 74, the only difference in them is the placement of the FORD letters on it. ( i think)

All the holes for mounting are the same.

pinto bean

Brando,  I take it that the 78 fenders and hood was different than the 74 ones? I was really interested if I could keep the fenders and hood since they were rust free with only one ding. Also does anyone if the bumpers will interchange so I can switch to 71 to 73 styleor I would be happy with the 74 and up style. Also does anyone know what years the fenders changed. Also I saw this in another post and I thought I would ask, on the 79 and 80 did they change the core support. I do not think they did because it would have cost more money for ford to make more tooling to change it. I just want to make sure all of it is the same underneath before I buy it that way I can change the sheetmetal later.

Glassman

Quote from: 8upwithpinto on October 28, 2003, 04:28:14 PM
Cool, that opens a whole new window for me. Let the hunt for sheet metal begin! 8)

Im planning on using 71-73 fiberglass fenders, hood and bumpers. I hope these parts swap easily. I dont think Ill be getting to it until next summer.  :-\
The Escort taillights will be enough this winter.

8upwithpinto

Cool, that opens a whole new window for me. Let the hunt for sheet metal begin! 8)
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Brando

I know you can change the front fenders, hood, and grill on a 78 with a 74 :o

But you should be able to easily

crazyhorse

as far as i know all the sheetmetal will interchange, as far as the bumpers go i'm not sure if the 71-73 bumpers will go on to a 74-up

just my 2cents   :)
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pinto bean

I have found a 79 pinto pony that is pratically rust free but and I am new to pintos so please be patient. I do not prefer the square headlights and I was interested in swapping to a 78 and below frontend.  What I am curious about is if the doors bodylines are the same and if the fenders would happen to be along with the hood. From what I have written so far you can tell that I am trying to go the cheapest route since I will be on a budget. I am mainly wandering if you can just change the front bumper, grill, headlights, and front apron below bumper. Also can the rear bumper be exhanged for an older style bumper.  ???