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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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UltimatePinto

Hi Folks,
Haven't been around in a while but when I read this post I couldn't resist giving a sneek peek to my Runabout mod. The blank space above the perforated sheet metal is where my stereo is going in. Haven't made the cutout yet but will do so soon. Would be VERY interested in placing speakers in the doors. Would love to see pics and info as to their final placement.
As you can see, I'm an instrument nut.
Al

wagonmaster

Also, make sure the speakers you get are not too deep! If the speakers are to be mounted the way the factory did on the inside of the door, some high-end speakers have too large of a magnet and are too deep to fit properly or not cause clearance issues with the door glass operation. As a side note, Ford did not actually cut a round hole to mount the speaker. It was actually an odd shape that looks something like a cross between an oval and triangle. the speaker is fed in sideways and then mounted against the door from the backside. I have a radio kit that has a template to cut the hole, if anyone needs a copy. My email address is: pobs2u@yahoo.com
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turbopinto72

Quote from: pintoman on December 14, 2005, 05:18:15 PM
When cutting the holes in the doors,MAKE SURE that the window will roll down and not hit the speaker.I speak from experience.I have been in the radio business for over 21 years.Take your time and do it right the first time.

Great point pintoman.............
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

pintoman

When cutting the holes in the doors,MAKE SURE that the window will roll down and not hit the speaker.I speak from experience.I have been in the radio business for over 21 years.Take your time and do it right the first time.
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TIGGER

Quote from: pintoguy76 on December 13, 2005, 02:10:56 PM
What does DIN mean? Also, i didnt know the early models had a metal bezel, i will definantly have to find one of those. By "early" do you mean 71, 72 and 73?

A DIN is the unit of measurement for the thickness of a radio.  I have only seen the metal radio bezels in the 71-73 cars but I am not totally sure as one of my 79 parts cars came with one that had some sort of grain pattern to it?  I have a spare metal bezel and a set of factory speaker grills.  PM me or send me an email if you are interested.
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73 Turbo HB
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TIGGER

Quote from: pintoguy76 on December 13, 2005, 02:06:48 PM
Is the door any different or just the door panel?
The doors are the same but cut from the factory for speakers.  My 79 looks like it was cut on the assembly line to add the door speakers.  All door panels that I have seen have the perforations for the factory speaker grills on the back side.  Basically a small U is taken out from the front lower corner.  I tried to attach a picture of one that is uncut.
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

71hotrodpinto

Hey there,
As a disclaimer i have to tell you that to do this requires some knowledge of handling hand tools and cutting tools and the safety of using them with out drilling into your hand and or sawing fingers off etc. I do not recommend that anyone try this without knowledge of handling and using metal cutting instruments.
Also I know there are many people who have a simpler idea ,and I for one have tried about 3 different ways, all of them came loose and resulted in a bouncing tape/CD player. I gave up and went for a permenant fix. This didn't come loose or bounce one bit for around 3 years of daily driving.

Anyways,
I have DIN size in my pinto dash, 6x9s in the rear and 6.5 in the doors. Yes ,you will need to get a metal radio bezel from an earlier model Pinto. It cuts fairly easily
For the Cd player I hogged out the radio plate. I used many tools ,but however i think if you have a and lots of patience you can get the stamped steel 'frame' into the radio plate. What i would do is to mark and scribe the proper rectangle, then drill series of small ( 1/8 dia) holes side by side long enough on the ends and AWAY from the final edge, to allow you to use a "hand held" hacksaw blade to cut out the major portion of the rectangle. Start from the old radios rectangle and work your way around carefully.
Then with the rectangle cut out but small, id use a nice size file to gently and carefully file away to the scribe marks.
You have to remember that to rush this step is to wind up with a sloppy fit and with a CD player that jumps around. Expect this to take a couple of hours to do it right. RESIST the temptation to try an electric jig saw. Its too unstable an object to expect that to work safely.
Now with the CD player in you need to get inventive to support the rear of the player. If it bounces and it will if you don't support it , you will ruin the player eventually. I came up with a aluminum bracket that I whittled out on my mill at work .Its about 3/8 x 1/2 plate alum and it goes back towards the player and up at and unspecified angle to the support stud at the back of the player. Its very ridged. Its bolted with a 1/4 20 bolt and nut to the bottom of the dash, and i used the hardware that comes with the CD player to secure the other end. I have no final dimensions, but if you play with it long enough and be patient you can get it. To make this you will need a piece of 3/8 plate alum about 6 x 6. Make a template from some stiff cardboard and cut it to make the profile that works for your CD player. Then just simply trace it onto the plate and and Now You can use a Jig saw. Use a metal cutting blade and use wd40 to lubricate it to keep the blade cutting free. Expect this to take a few hours if you've never done something like this b4 And get some help if you can.
   WHEW!!!
NOW for the speakers.
For the front I cut out some holes for the 6.5s i have in each door. if your carefull you can use the hand held jig saw with the finest blade made. i think its 32 TPI . If you have some nice paint on the door then use some masking tape to protect the paint and also so you can draw the hole out from the cardboard templates that come in the box. To get the speakers to sit squarely you might need to use some sort of spacer on the top 2 holes of the speaker so that they tighten up against the metal part of the door, not the cardboard door panel. You will see what i mean if you get to that point.

Assuming you have a Sedan: ( if you have a hatchback then I'm not sure of the best avenue to take with the rear speakers.)
The rear 2 are 6x9s and you will find the holes under the cardboard panel that is there. At least that was on my 71 sedan. 6x9s drop right in and screw down after you make some screw holes which can be challenging if you don't have right angle drill. You'll have to be inventive to make the screw holes because of the rear window being SO close.
Expect this to take the better part of the weekend and have a place to do this if you can. Take your time and ask for help if you need it from your parents ( i  just saw that your profile says your 14 ) or someone experienced in this field if you can.
It will be worth it just don't rush it and you will find out that this will sound real nice! Don't expect to win any sound off contests but it will be waaay better that the stock.
Also, don't expect the local stereo shop to know what to do. If they cant use a KIT to install it then they prob wont touch it. Not without some big money from a shop that knows what there doing.
Good luck with this and remember ,
"No question is a dumb question"

pintoguy76

What does DIN mean? Also, i didnt know the early models had a metal bezel, i will definantly have to find one of those. By "early" do you mean 71, 72 and 73?
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pintoguy76

Is the door any different or just the door panel?
1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

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TIGGER

As I understand it, the Am-FM Stereo cars came with speakers in the doors.  They are easy to spot as they have a speaker grill attached to the lower front corner of each door panel.  The AM radio cars have the single speaker in the dash.  I have never seen any factory rear speakers, only the doors.  I removed the factory AM-FM stereo from my 79 wagon and added a single DIN radio instead.  Instead of using the original plastic radio bezel, I found an early metal radio bezel that I cut out for the din cage.  It was much stronger than the plastic bezel and it did not vibrate or creak when I hit a bump.
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

pintoguy76

Did pintos come with speakers in the door? To my knowledge the one in the dash is the only speaker my car ever had. Neither the pinto i had before or the one i have now have ever had more than just the one speaker. Are there any speakers out there that will replace and mount right in place of the speaker in the dash? What about mounting a CD player, ive seen somone do it before, but how does a person make it look clean? No one makes a "filler panel" for a pinto do they?
1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E

turbopinto72

All the "new" in dash players don't fit the stock hole. However there are company's that are making modern technology look like the stock unit and it fits the the hole too.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

bman

 i was just wondering if someone could tell me where i could buy a in dash player and speakers.the ones i have now the drivers side speaker is blown and a wire or 2 have dryrotted and every time  i close the door a peice falls off of it and im getting tired of picking it up so im going to replace them and i figured while i replaced the speakers why not replace the whole system. so if someone could tell me where i could buy some that would fit or post pictures of ones they had installed that would help alo thx.                              Bristol