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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Hood Hinge Boots

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cossiepinto

True.  I believe someone used duct tape to seal the tears in the original piece, then dipped it in some kind of flexible plastic/rubber liquid.  Seemed to work ok.

My problem, right now, is that I don't even have bad ones to experiment with.  That may have been Steele's concern....where to get good ones to make the mold.

I know where there's a Pinto or two that have been sitting for a long time.  They may still have boots (even rotting ones) that I can get.  We'll see.

Meanwhile, I'd like to see some others contact Steele and make them aware how many of us there are who'd surely like new ones!

Wittsend

I like the tool dip idea!

It might just do to dip the old boot and not even make a mold to make one completely new.  If the old boot has tears I'd consider putting a flexible mesh across any tear.  Hobby stores have very thin fiberglass sheets for model planes. Basically you are just recoating the old boot sort of like a retread tire.

  Hey Phil Swift sells spray Flexseal! Just spray, no dipping.  And if it is good enough for a screen door bottomed boat..., it might just get the job done for Pinto hinge boots.

cossiepinto

I believe someone did a repair of an old boot using a dipping process like is used on tool handles.  That might work well, but I'd have to have boots to do the mold in the first place.

I did reply to the lady at Steele that there would very likely be many people who'd buy them if they are produced.  Maybe some here could use that email or phone number and let them know you need them, too.

warhead2

No i have not but will double check

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Reeves1

warhead2 - shipped March 12 - you get them ?

Wittsend

Perhaps there is something available from another field.  On my Tiger the steering column is sealed with a leather piece.  I just couldn't bring myself to use leather. My stepfather has rubber pieces that seemed designed to go over electrical conduit and be flexible. I simply opened one end to the steering shaft size and clamped other end to the column tube.

Maybe there are things available in the medical or scientific community that have a similar shape and are adaptable as Pinto boots. Maybe there are boots for levers on industrial equipment that can be adapted (even if it requires plugging an opening for the lever). In some ways these hood boots look a bit like boots for floor brake levers. Meaning bolt-able to a floor and a right angle turn out an opening (which could be plugged).  Or, maybe some one here good at molding and can recreate then from a pour-able, pliable substance.

I just start a search on Google Images for "Lever Boots." Ran out of time but if we all look with appropriate terms maybe we can find a substitute. Remember it need not look like a Pinto hood boot.  It just needs to mount properly (may need trimming) and as for the hinge, it need not be solid but I'd think an accordion type boot would move with the hinge. After all it hides under the cowl.

cossiepinto

Ok, folks.  I got an email reply from Steele Industries to my suggestion that they consider adding these boots to their inventory:

"My parts department told me unfortunately at this time we're not interested in tooling this part.  Sorry I couldn't help you with your part need, but thank you for your interest in our parts and if you need my assistance do not hesitate to contact me directly at hmorgan@steelerubber.comor by phone at (800) 544-8665 EXT 219."

Looks like they won't be a supplier.  It might help if some of you who seriously would buy a pair to contact them.  Maybe a show of strength in numbers would sway them.

Reeves1

Got your msgs.
Try & send next Monday.

warhead2

Sent

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Reeves1

warhead2 - PM your address & I'll send these to you - free. Just let everyone know & post pictures.

warhead2

I finally took off one of my hinges and boot. Definitely a match to the Mustang boot.

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Reeves1

warhead2   PM your address & I'll send these boots to you.

Be nice for folks to know if they'll fit newer Pintos.

warhead2

When i get a chance i will pull a boot from my 77 project to see if it looks the same as the new. If so it will probably only work for 75 or 76 thru 80. Thanks for posting the pics.

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cossiepinto

Yeah, some of their stuff is a bit pricey.  I still have some NIB door and window gaskets and felts from Ford.  They've been in their original boxes/bags for many years, though.  I hope they will still be serviceable when I'm ready for them.  Otherwise, Steel is going to get a bunch of my $$, too.  They haven't answered my email about the boots, so I guess the next step is to call.
I imagine tooling would be tough, especially if they had to start from scratch, without even a pair of boots on hand, so I expect the boots to be ex$pensive!

Reeves1

I too sent an e mail to Steel. Not about the boots though.
I wanted to know if their prices were USD or CDN.
Plus I wanted a better deal for all I need for 2 cars.
Their prices are high...

I had thought the boots for the blue car were toast.
They are good & I can re-use them.

cossiepinto

Reeves, thanks for taking one for the team.  I'm guessing the hinges wouldn't work at all....geometry would be different, even if they would bolt up to the underside of the Pinto hood.  I guess you could re-ebay them.  Btw, Steele Industries has not replied to my email.  I will see if I can call them, and will let the group know if they express any interest in manufacturing the original boots.  I really think there's a market for them here, but I have no idea what tooling costs would be for these...maybe prohibitive to do so.

Reeves1

Finally got them.
Will not work for my 72.
They are about 3/4" too short.
I slid my hinge into the boot & it still had to go in another inch or so.




Maybe they would work with the hinges they list ? No idea.
If someone wants me to send these boots to them & they want to order the hinges.....then see if they would work ?
Boots are no good to me....

Reeves1

UPS claims my address is wrong (isn't) and they are stuck in Edmonton.

Calling them today.....

cossiepinto

Yes, I'm very interested in how they compare.  If it's just bolt hole location (I think the Pinto ones are aligned and the Mustang ones are offset), then that's not such a big deal.  If they just won't even go into the hole, or don't fit for some other reason, then we'll see for ourselves.  I'm looking forward to seeing the side-by-side comparison.

Reeves1


warhead2

Cool post pics on here of them side by side

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Reeves1

I'm ordering a set today. I can see the bolt holes are different, but I want to set them on the bench side by side to compare them.
Only way I know to know for sure.....

warhead2


warhead2

I believe that the Mustang 2 boots will work but one of the bolt holes is in the wrong spot i could be wrong. Im surprised no Pinto owners have tried to make a silicone cast and make it out of silicon. Same thing with the transmission clutch boot.

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cossiepinto

I have considered using light weight aluminum to make a "box" around the hinges that I can put through the hole.  I fear that the hole is too small to put anything solid through it, however.  The Cosworth Pinto doesn't even have a heater, but I don't really want under hood gases seeping into the interior, which I fear will happen without some kind of seals at the hinges. 


I've seen people say some Fox-bodied Mustangs use a similar boot, but it "doesn't fit", citing bolt hole differences, but no other details.  I'd like to investigate if there are other insurmountable reasons why they won't work. 


I threw away boots I had on hand a long time ago, thinking I could purchase new ones once I needed them, so I don't even have old boots I can repair enough to use as a mold for making them out of spray plastic.


Now I'm just hoping we can persuade some company like Steele to make them for us.

JoeBob


I got sick before I got to that part. I sold my project on. This is what I was going to try. Take cardboard and tape together a box the size of the boot. Spray the box inside and out with plastidip. My other idea was just get innertube rubber and wrap the hinge as if it were contained in a pouch. Then twist wire holding pouch opening closed around the metal leg protruding out of the inset hole.
Don't have a clue if this will work.
77 yellow Bobcat hatchback
Deuteronomy 7:9

cossiepinto

This is probably not the first time for this subject, but I wanted to let the group know that I send and email to Steele Rubber Products (steelerubber.com), pestering them about making these boots available.  I bet they could sell the heck out of them here, and told them so.


Let's see if they respond.


Regards to all.


Paul Ramsey (a.k.a. cossiepinto)