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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Tonycando

Quote from: Reeves1 on February 16, 2017, 09:02:30 AM
Bought one. It's different than an OEM rack. You would have to use U-joints (I have them as well) & the tie rod ends are the same size as OEM.

I was going to drop the one in the white car. Gave up on the idea.
So, Tony, if you want I can ship the rack & heim (sp ?) to you ?

So is it the Flaming River rack you have. . 

Reeves1

Quote from: pinto_one on February 08, 2017, 09:45:54 PM
That would be a no , the 71 and 72 had the same rack , the 73 rack is a one only , but took the same tie rod ends as the 71/72 ,   But since you stuffed a Cleveland in it you just may have to drop the tie rod ends , make an adaptor or go smaller helm joints , try looking at aircraft spruce, they have aero space grade helm joints to be safe , hope this helps , and one more thing you could check is a company called flaming river , they made a 71/72 pinto rack copy , it might have the larger tie rods , not sure , great if they did , later Blaine

Bought one. It's different than an OEM rack. You would have to use U-joints (I have them as well) & the tie rod ends are the same size as OEM.

I was going to drop the one in the white car. Gave up on the idea.
So, Tony, if you want I can ship the rack & heim (sp ?) to you ?

Tonycando

Quote from: dick1172762 on February 10, 2017, 10:48:53 AM
Where does the 1/2-20 go? Is it where the hemi joint will go? Sounds really big doesn't it? Bump steer is when the car launch's and lifts up the toe changes. Really no big deal unless its way out. Toe in, no big deal in the handling. Toe out and the car will wander on the big end, big deal. Just drive it first before you cut and weld or heat and bend. You need to know what the toe does before you do anything. String it and see what it does when you lift the car. FIRST!

The 1/2" x 20 is supposed to be the size of thread the tie rod turns onto,sound advise taken. Maybe I am chasing something that might not be an issue.

Thanks

dick1172762

I have seen one V-8 Pinto that was a fast road racer. It had a Boss 302 engine moved back at least 12 inches. Don't think that'll work on the street though. BTW once the front wheels are on the ground and the car is settled down the bump steer is of no importance as only the toe matters at that point. At least till you hit a bump or run off the track and then re-enter the track. So make sure you stay on the track and all will be fine.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

blink77

 I think you hit the nail on the head Dick!!!!!
Bill

dick1172762

I've spent weeks trying to get zero bump steer on several race cars, only to find out on the track that the race car drove / handled the very same way as before. If the car drives ok, leave it alone. A V-8 Pinto will NEVER be a road racer regardless of what you do or who you are, and if you try, you'll end up in a ditch or worse.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

blink77

I dropped the rack on my Pro-street with offset bushings made for a Fox
body. I don't think it made any more difference than it made when the heavy
motor (351w) made the front drop about 2in. The rack only dropped
half hole, which is all the room there is to drop it (1977 W/ manual rack).
I needed all the space I could get to clear my after market pan.
Bill

dick1172762

Where does the 1/2-20 go? Is it where the hemi joint will go? Sounds really big doesn't it? Bump steer is when the car launch's and lifts up the toe changes. Really no big deal unless its way out. Toe in, no big deal in the handling. Toe out and the car will wander on the big end, big deal. Just drive it first before you cut and weld or heat and bend. You need to know what the toe does before you do anything. String it and see what it does when you lift the car. FIRST!
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

Tonycando

Quote from: dick1172762 on February 09, 2017, 02:59:33 PM
I seen it done both ways, but the cut and weld way is scary to say the least. I once owned a 57 Chevy E-gaser with the front spindles made out of two, then cut offset, and the two longest parts welled back together. There wasn't a floor jack that would lift the front wheels off the ground. It would launch off the line with so much body lift that I had a hard time seeing the strip. The tires never left the ground. Not the way to go! If your going to do it, I would heat the arm and after its where you want it, get it re heat treated. I've done my own by putting the part in a bucket of old engine oil while the part was still very HOT. Redneck way I guess. The 57 Chevy? Ran straight and true and is still being dragged 38 years later with those spindles still on it. Just have a really good welder if you cut and weld. The chevy's were arc welded. I would drive it first as you may not see any difference in the way it handles.

Really ? I did drop the rack about 1"1/4. I would have thought this would affect it big time..and yes I miss the old days of no fear and welded on parts.lol.

The kit that has been offered to me has 1/2"x20 threads on the heims and the say will fit the 71. Does this sound correct ? 

Thanks

dick1172762

I seen it done both ways, but the cut and weld way is scary to say the least. I once owned a 57 Chevy E-gaser with the front spindles made out of two, then cut offset, and the two longest parts welled back together. There wasn't a floor jack that would lift the front wheels off the ground. It would launch off the line with so much body lift that I had a hard time seeing the strip. The tires never left the ground. Not the way to go! If your going to do it, I would heat the arm and after its where you want it, get it re heat treated. I've done my own by putting the part in a bucket of old engine oil while the part was still very HOT. Redneck way I guess. The 57 Chevy? Ran straight and true and is still being dragged 38 years later with those spindles still on it. Just have a really good welder if you cut and weld. The chevy's were arc welded. I would drive it first as you may not see any difference in the way it handles.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

Tonycando

Quote from: dick1172762 on February 09, 2017, 09:52:30 AM
I really would not worry about one of the bump steer kits not working after seeing what a mini stock Pinto goes through on a dirt track night after night. Only problem would be the heim joint life and steering vibration sent back to the steering wheel. If you can't raise the rack, look at lowering the spindle arms down if you have room. I really wouldn't worry about the bump steer as your car is never going to be on a road race course.

Interesting idea  on lowering the arm. Are your thoughts on this to heat and form it tonwhere its needed or
The thought i dred is
Cut and weld

dick1172762

I really would not worry about one of the bump steer kits not working after seeing what a mini stock Pinto goes through on a dirt track night after night. Only problem would be the heim joint life and steering vibration sent back to the steering wheel. If you can't raise the rack, look at lowering the spindle arms down if you have room. I really wouldn't worry about the bump steer as your car is never going to be on a road race course.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

pinto_one

I did look this morning at Flaming River web site , they do have the racks with larger tie rod ends , one is 1/2  and the next is 9/16 , huge , and a few other options , hope this helps in your project to prevent bump steer ,
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

pinto_one

You just have to check first to see , I know 99% of the racers use them and they use the newer spindle from the 74 up mustang/pinto , so my best guess they did , but I don't know for sure , sure would save a lot of work and have no slack from a 45 year old rack , find out and post it , like to know .
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

Tonycando

Quote from: pinto_one on February 08, 2017, 09:45:54 PM
That would be a no , the 71 and 72 had the same rack , the 73 rack is a one only , but took the same tie rod ends as the 71/72 ,   But since you stuffed a Cleveland in it you just may have to drop the tie rod ends , make an adaptor or go smaller helm joints , try looking at aircraft spruce, they have aero space grade helm joints to be safe , hope this helps , and one more thing you could check is a company called flaming river , they made a 71/72 pinto rack copy , it might have the larger tie rods , not sure , great if they did , later Blaine

So your thinking swap to their rack for the larger thread count and one of the bump steer kits will be more adaptable ? 

Thanks
  Tony

pinto_one

That would be a no , the 71 and 72 had the same rack , the 73 rack is a one only , but took the same tie rod ends as the 71/72 ,   But since you stuffed a Cleveland in it you just may have to drop the tie rod ends , make an adaptor or go smaller helm joints , try looking at aircraft spruce, they have aero space grade helm joints to be safe , hope this helps , and one more thing you could check is a company called flaming river , they made a 71/72 pinto rack copy , it might have the larger tie rods , not sure , great if they did , later Blaine
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

Tonycando

Quote from: pinto_one on February 08, 2017, 07:43:20 PM
The newer 74 up pinto/mustang rack is larger , along with the tie rods and ends , the hole in your spindle is small , those parts and realy not for street use , they won't last as a daily driver , the smallest rack for the pinto is the one you have now , to safety get rid of the bump steer your going to have to move the rack back to org location , you can notch out the oil pan , much easier than trying to mod the steering system, been there done that too ,

Not a daily driver with a Cleveland running a 700" lift solid roller,bin there dun that with oil pan work,I'd have to have a drain at the rear of the pan to get the oil flowing to the front sump as is.but back to my question  is the thread size the same on the 71 pinto tie rod as the late 73 and up.

Thanks

pinto_one

The newer 74 up pinto/mustang rack is larger , along with the tie rods and ends , the hole in your spindle is small , those parts and realy not for street use , they won't last as a daily driver , the smallest rack for the pinto is the one you have now , to safety get rid of the bump steer your going to have to move the rack back to org location , you can notch out the oil pan , much easier than trying to mod the steering system, been there done that too ,
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

Tonycando

So dealing with this issue now that my rack has been dropped,there are some kits out there available for the newer Mustang 2 stuff that would require drilling the outer tie rod hole which is it that big of a deal but can anyone tell me if the thread is the same on the mustang2 tie rod shaft as the 71 Pinto .
This is one kit that is being offered to me 

http://www.cachassisworks.com/p-175-tie-rod-enda-arm12-bore.aspx

Thanks
Tony