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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Ignition timing and rough running at 4000 rpm

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Wittsend

Great that you found your solution.  Looking forward to seeing the SU set up.  I have them on my Datsun 510, had them on my 240Z and Volvo 544.  Back in the mid 70's I even converted a stock 2 bbl. Datsun down draft intake to take a side draft single SU setup that I made an adapter out of sheet metal (see illustration).

LongTimeFordMan

Update on rough spot at 4000 rpm..  well i finally solved the problem.. it was the mechanical advance in The distributor. As I mentioned, my car seems to like about 12-14 degrees at 1100 rpm and about 28 total.  My distributor was advancing to about 20 degrees to a total of 35 at 3000 rpm.

I solved the problem by opening up the distributor and removing the secondary spring, the strong one and replacing it with a loop of wire to limit the mechanical advance to about 10-12 degrees . See photo.  Also i can adjust the total mechanical by bending the wire loop.

This with inital set at 13 degrees at 1100 rpm provides about 26 total with no vacuum advance.

As i mentioned i need more advance at low rpm and less at high.
3ngine now pulls strong and smooth from about 2000 to 5000, no roughness and lots of torque at 3000..

I did advance the cam timing about 4 degrees to get more low end torque since i have a 4 speed trans and 14 inch tires, so at 60 mph the engine runs at about 2700 rpm.

One reason i wanted to get this sorted out is that is that i am building a new engine with SU carbs and custom manifold so there would only be manifold vacuum.

As for total advance, i tend to feel that running a little retarded at the top of the power curve would be better than to advanced..

Anyway for my engine 13 degrees at 1100 and 28 -30 at 3000 seems to work.

Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

LongTimeFordMan

Problem partially solved.. I replaced the aftermarket oem spec 1.5 ohm coil with a 3 ohm pertronix flamethrower and the engine pulls better. While rewiring to c9nnect the 3 ohm coil I noticed that the fa tory wiring harness had push on connectors for the coil and the  connector for the negative post to distributor was extremely loose and probably not making good contact.

I still need to work on the mechanical advance curve. With initial set at 12 degrees at 1000 rpm, mechanical with no vacuum advance connected.. at 3000 rpm the timing is 34 degrees. So the mechanical is about 22 degrees. I understand that the vacuum only works at part throttle and at load is minimal, however as i reduce throttle at top of power curve before shifting the vacuum is at or near max and is too much.

It seems that I need more advance at bottom of curve and less at top.

I will adjust the limiting pegs in the distributor by putting some rubber tubing over them to limit max mechanical to about 16-18 and try with and without vacuum.

Will post how this works..

Also.. when I got the car the factory distributor had been replaced with a "rebuilt" one so I have no idea if this distributor has the proper curve.
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

LongTimeFordMan

Im using a pertroni, ignitor I module, so no point bounce and dwell issues. Oem style 1.5 ohm aftermarket coil. Ordered a pertronix flamethrower 3 ohm coil, it arrives today. I am gonna wire up a 12v non resistor supply to the coil and pertronix as per pertronix tech suggested and see what happens.  Going to use a relay activated by existing resistor wire in harness to activate the relay and switch on power to coil and pertronix when ign switch is on.. will let you know result..
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

nnn0wqk

These specs are from a 75 Motor manual. Not sure if your using the OEM dist. but this should at least give you some ideas what the timing curves were in 73.

nnn0wqk

Back in the day when I worked as a tune-up tech it seems to me that most FOMOCO products ran around 40-45 degrees total advance and that usually hit at around 2500 rpm. Of course that would be a no load condition on the motor. Most everything in the day would have used ported vacuum to the dist. Base timing on a lot of FOMOCO engines was 6 degrees. Centrifugal advance ball park would be probably 22-26 degrees. Which would give you around 32 degrees; base plus centrifugal. The rest was made with the vacuum advance system and that system usually was 8-10 degrees.  What is your dwell doing as the rpm goes up? If that is going out of range it will certainly mess with the timing curve. You mention the timing light acting up over 4000. It just may be that your getting a lot of points bounce if the tension is not correct or the dwell is way out of range and not allowing a good build up of voltage in the coil. Personally I would also rethink your total advance as it seems your shooting for a low number. Remember under load the vacuum advance drops off anyway and under WOT conditions probably is not much more than 2-3 degrees if even that. Try to find the original advance curve for that dist. Motor or Chilton manual often have that information in them. I would start out with factory specs and then tweak it from there. The numbers I mentioned are as I remember them but 35 or so years of time do tend to cloud ones memory so please do not hold be to them.

dick1172762

In one of my 100+ tech tips(FAQ) I posted about how you can use a V6 distributors in a 2.0L to have electronic ignition. It's posted in the tech tips in the Capri Club of Chicago. web site.
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LongTimeFordMan

Also.. i was wondering if the 2.0 engine has some sort of characteristic roughness at 4000-5000 rpm and or what the total spark advance should be.

And how well the factory oem FoMoCo bosch distributors do at high revs. Are there other distributor chouces for the 2.0 engine
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

LongTimeFordMan

Hi. Thanks for the input.. i sort of suspected that either the supply voltage or the coil was the issue.. i plan to buy the 3 ohm pertronix coil and run the ignition on 12 volts. My problem is that the 73 wiring harness utilizes a 1.5 ohm resistor wire from the igntion switch rather than a separate resistor near the coil, and there are no other sources of switched 12v, other than the accessory  so its not readily possible to connect the pertronix ahead of the resistor.   I am considering wiring a wire from the batttery positive thru a relay to supply power to the coil.and pertronix. The relay can be activated by power from the existing resistor wire normally wired to the coil so it switches on with the ignition switch. Will probably order the 3 ohm pertronix coil in a week or so and see what happens.

BTW..  I had a chat with the tech guy at pertronix and apparently with breaker point ignitions, the coils are designed to work on 4 amps, so the total resistance in the coil circuit needs to be 3 ohms.  There seem to be two types of coils, 1.5 ohm used with a 1.5 ohm resistor wire or external resistor and 3 ohm coils used with no resistor. The advantage of the 1.5 ohm coil is that when the starter is engaged, the resistor can be bypassed to provide more voltage at the coil for starting.
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

Wittsend

 The timing light at 4K seems more a ignition problem than a carburation issue. I'm not a long time racer but in some ways I'd suspect the coil (resistor possible too). Or, how the Pertronix is wired.


  I run a Pertronix in my SBC powered Studebaker and have investigated the hook up extensively.  The #1 problem people make is to wire the power (red wire) to the Pertronix at the resistor (on the resistive side). The Pertronix is designed to run on 12 volts and if wired through the resistor it is NOT getting that. I have my Pertronix wired directly to the ignition switch.  BTW, be careful with the Original (#1) version of the Pertronix. Supposedly left on but the engine not running can fry one in as little as 30 seconds.


Another Pertronix mistake is that people assume since the Pertronix is 12 volts they can run that directly to the coil too. No, the coil is still dependent upon the proper resistor being used.    Yet so many people think because it is 12 volts and "electronic" it sends 12 volts to the positive side of the coil - No! All the Pertronix does is momentarily complete the coils negative terminal to ground just like points do.


You may have it all correct so I thank you for bearing with me it is just that I have seen a LOT of misunderstanding about the Pertronix. The other option is your coil may be breaking down. The resistors are typically open to the elements and can cause corrosion problems too. I grasp the frustration. I have a Turbo Coupe 2.3 and had wacky ignition issues too.  I eventually found a cure, but not the cause.  If I ran 12 volts directly from the battery to the coil (this DOES use 12 volts at the coil) the problem went away. But that took about two years. Hopefully yours will be faster.

LongTimeFordMan

Hi.. I know some of you racers have had experience with running 2.0 3ngines and need some advice. 

I have noticed that my engine, 1973 2.0 factory stock, about 4 degrees cam advance, rebuilt factory FoMoCo bosch distributor dual advance cams, pertronix ignitor i, stock oem 1.5 ohm coil resistor wire from ignition to coil. stock rebuilt holly weber progressive 2 bbl 4 speed manual trans seems to have a rough spot at 4000 rpm.

The engine pulls strong from about 2000 rpm to about 4000 rpm and then from 4000 to 5000 runs rough.

I have tried connecting the vacuum advance to the carb port and the manifold port and even run it without the vacuum.  Without the vacuum the centrifugal advance seems to have about 20 degrees.

The best low end torque seems to be with initial timing set at 12 degrees, at 1000 rpm, no vacuum advance for total advance of about 33 degrees but runs rough at 4000, with initial timing set at 10 degrees, total at about 28-30 it runs smooth at 4000 but bogs at 2300 rpm and lacks low end torque.

Any vacuum connection seems to exaggurate the problem. 

I am considerating a couple ot solutions

1. Replacing oem coil with 3 ohm pertronix coil and wiring the coil to 12 v around the resistor.

2. Recurving the distributor by adjusting the limit tabs in the distributor to limit the centrifugal advance to about 16 degrees so i can set initial at 12-14 and have the total limited to about 28-30.

Also when using a timing light, the light flashes as expected up to 4000 rpm th3n tends to flicker as if either it cant keep up or the coul cant keep up. I am pretty sure the problem is with the ignition rather than a vibration.

I understand these engines had some vibration problems at this range...is this normal?

Has anyone had any experience or suggestions.
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles