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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Pinto5.0

T-5 trannies take a 10 spline disc.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

72pair

You could get away with just a different clutch disc and t-5 t/o bearing. Regular 2.3 t-5 mustangs used an 8.5" clutch just like the pinto, but had a different spline count.
72 sedan 2.0, c-4 beater now hot 2.0, 4-speed
72 sedan 2.3, t-5, 8" running project
80 Bobcat hatchback 2.3, 4-spd, 97K

80_2.3_ESS

Quote from: D.R.Ball on October 08, 2012, 09:25:37 PM
80_2.3_ESS you can use the Pinto driveshaft but you will need a T-5 slip yoke from a Mustang and a 1310/1320 U-Joint.Also you will have to change the clutch, pressure plate and throw out bearing as well.You will need the flywheel as well the clutch in the Pinto is not the correct size.

Thanks for the info. When I get the T5, I'm gonna pull the motor, trans, and drive-shaft. If worse comes to worse, I can have a custom shaft made by a shop a couple towns over.

I knew I was going to have to change some of the clutch items, which I was kinda pi**ed about. When I redid the car in the summer of 2010, I spent the extra dough on a Ceterforce dual-friction set-up. Though, I did learn to drive stick on the car, so maybe it is time for a new clutch LOL. The thing still works just like the day I bought it though, so I know those things can take some punishment LOL
Nick in CT

1980 2.3L Pinto ESS

Pinto5.0

I wasn't sure if the Pinto flywheel would work with the D9 bellhousing so I went on Advance Auto Parts online & ordered a flywheel #50-703 for $54.49 & clutch kit #MU47827-1 for $123.99

All parts are for a 1987 Turbo Coupe & Perfection is a Zoom brand so they should be quality parts.

BTW, I got the clutch kit for $83.99 + tax & free shipping using discount code FABU at checkout. I did a 2nd order with the flywheel & some other parts to get my total above the free shipping minimum & used the same code & the flywheel ended up costing me $35 + tax.

That's $119 for a new flywheel, pressure plate, disc & TO bearing & it even came with an alignment tool. All shipped to my door for free. God, I love those discount codes.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

D.R.Ball

80_2.3_ESS you can use the Pinto driveshaft but you will need a T-5 slip yoke from a Mustang and a 1310/1320 U-Joint.Also you will have to change the clutch, pressure plate and throw out bearing as well.You will need the flywheel as well the clutch in the Pinto is not the correct size.

78_starsky

"I am also going to try the cam that's currently in it. If I don't like it, I'm sure I can get something different."

Hi,  is the cam still in pretty good shape? if so and you want to save a bit of money, you can check out this place.

http://www.coltcams.com/   and  go to profiles.

If you know what type of performance you are looking for you can get your cam ground to your needs.  Geoff is very easy to talk to (i live 20 miles from there) you can send them an email with all your questions and needs. (or call direct)  I had to give him my cam and lifters (lifters to get refaced) and he gave me back my original shaft with a custom street grind for about a 1/3 the cost new. Including the refaced lifters.

cheers

80_2.3_ESS

Thought of another question regarding the swap.

What driveshaft would I need to use with this swap? Motor is the 2.5 (same as 2.3 outside), the mustang bell-housing & T5, and an 8" rear end from a Mustang II.

Would I need to grab the driveshaft from the Mustang when I pull the motor & trans? Or would the Pinto one work? Or will I need a custom one made?

Thanks!
Nick in CT

1980 2.3L Pinto ESS

80_2.3_ESS

Thanks for the input 72pair.

Pulled the 2.5 apart this weekend, and it looks brand new inside. I am also going to try the cam that's currently in it. If I don't like it, I'm sure I can get something different. I also checked the head, and it was planed, so the compression should be a little higher too in the motor.
Nick in CT

1980 2.3L Pinto ESS

72pair

I have both a MSD style distributor and a Mallory Unilite. Neither one will clear my Offy dualport intake. I'm using a stock distributor triggered by a MSD 6AL. Works great.
72 sedan 2.0, c-4 beater now hot 2.0, 4-speed
72 sedan 2.3, t-5, 8" running project
80 Bobcat hatchback 2.3, 4-spd, 97K

80_2.3_ESS

Thanks so much for your input. I am more than likely going to try the cam first. If I don't like it, it will be super easy to swap, and I can do it overnight if need be.

And as for the carb & intake, I was thinking about running the Offy intake, and buying a new Holley for it. The one that's on it now is a little temperamental, and I can't seem to get it to run right all the time. I figured I would just invest in a new one and be done with it. I was looking to see if Demon made a carb like that, as my dad has one and loves it, but they don't make a 4-barrel with that low of a CFM rating.

One other thing that got me thinking, is the distributor. I see that MSD makes one, as well as the mating box. Is this worth the money? I've never had an issue with the Ford one, and don't think I need to upgrade, but I thought I would throw that out there.

Oh, and one more thing. While I have the motor out, I am also going to throw on one of those adjustable cam gears too.
Nick in CT

1980 2.3L Pinto ESS

Bigtimmay

Quote from: 80_2.3_ESS on September 30, 2012, 07:28:02 PM
So here's my questions, I have a few.
1.) What mods are needed to install the T5? If I recall correctly, I need to do something with the clutch cable, and cut a wider hole in the floor for the shifter. Con someone please outline these issues?
2.) What fly-wheel do use? Do I use the one off the 2.3? Or does the 2.5 require a different one?
3.) The current 2.5 has an underdrive pulley due to being a race motor. What harmonic ballancer should I use in place of it?
4.) The cam that's in it now is an esslinger 2259, power ranger from 3500 to 7500. I think this will be a little too high for my liking. What would be a better cam to run?
5.) What carb should I run? Should I stick with the Offy intake and Holley 390? Or should I convert to a 2-barrel?
6.) Other? Anything else I should know before tackling this project?

Thanks so much guys!

Edit: Thought of another question. What gears should I swap to with the LSD? 3.55's? 3.72's? Rear tire size is 245-60-R14's. I don't need them to bake the tires at every launch, but a good burnout would be nice to be able to do, but highway cruising is a must, so I don't want the motor to be at 4k when doing 70 cause of the gears.
1. Clutch cable will need a bracket to push the cable a little higher then were it bolts to the bell or notch the crossmember otherwise itll rub.Hole for the shifter needs cut larger since the shiter is a little closer towards the dash I think I cut out like 3/4-1" forward for mine.And youll will have to add a 4"x4" piece of metal to the back side of the crossmember and drill new bolt holes.
2. 2.3s and 2.5s use the same bolt pattern for the flywheels and they should be interchangeable so use the better one.
3.  2.3/2.5 dont use harmonic balancers.And the pulleys off your stock 2.3 should bolt right on or you could prolly get away with the under drive if you wanted too.
4.Id try it first before yah yank it for another. But if its too large a cam for yah you can always run a 90-96 I think is the last year ranger roller cam they produce more low end but kinda fall off up high since they are cheap and you can get them at almost any junkyard just make sure yah get the roller followers too. Or call esslinger/racer walsh and see what they recommend.
5.I would leave the intake and carb alone.
And for your gear question I dont know about with your tire size but my Turbocoupe had 3.55 and a T5 and it was a great highway runner 70ish at around 2k but I got a feeling its 16s are taller then your tires I can try to measure them tommorow for a refrence point for yah.
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

80_2.3_ESS

Okay, so this winter will be the time for me to update the engine & trans in my Pinto, due to the current motor smoking and burning oil.

Currently, it has the stock 2.3 motor, with a Offy intake and Holly 390 4-barrel, and stock 4-speed manual. Car is a 1980 ESS.

My plans are as follows. Instal new motor, convert to mustang T5, swap out the 3.00's in the 8" rear for different gears, and install a LSD.

I recently came across, and bought, a race car (Moddified Mini-stock) from my grandfathers brother. In it is a 2.5 liter truck motor, out of a Ranger. It has a ported head, is bored .030 over, and has a 4-speed on it. I also have a line on a 2.3 liter mustang with a T5, that I can get the whole motor & tranny out of.

So, my plan is to use the 2.5 liter motor & head, use the bell-housing and tranny out of the mustang, and swap out the gears in the rear end.

So here's my questions, I have a few.
1.) What mods are needed to install the T5? If I recall correctly, I need to do something with the clutch cable, and cut a wider hole in the floor for the shifter. Con someone please outline these issues?
2.) What fly-wheel do use? Do I use the one off the 2.3? Or does the 2.5 require a different one?
3.) The current 2.5 has an underdrive pulley due to being a race motor. What harmonic ballancer should I use in place of it?
4.) The cam that's in it now is an esslinger 2259, power ranger from 3500 to 7500. I think this will be a little too high for my liking. What would be a better cam to run?
5.) What carb should I run? Should I stick with the Offy intake and Holley 390? Or should I convert to a 2-barrel?
6.) Other? Anything else I should know before tackling this project?

Thanks so much guys!

Edit: Thought of another question. What gears should I swap to with the LSD? 3.55's? 3.72's? Rear tire size is 245-60-R14's. I don't need them to bake the tires at every launch, but a good burnout would be nice to be able to do, but highway cruising is a must, so I don't want the motor to be at 4k when doing 70 cause of the gears.
Nick in CT

1980 2.3L Pinto ESS