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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Coil wire question

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Pinto5.0

I have a couple MSD coils to choose from when I finally get it installed so I should be set hopefully. Thanks for the heads up.
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'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

78_starsky

Forgot to add one other thing I need to do is buy an upright cylnder style Coil.  the ones i have are the smaller style that cant be placed in sideways. (as I have it mounted)  this is a tomorrow thing to do!  So when you mount your system make sure you have the right coil.

78_starsky

good deal.  was just curious for you hit the prob on the head.  I spent hours last night reading all the troubleshooting section on the MSD website trying to figure this one out.  I even downloaded a 192 page PDF and looked through all of it too...  LOL

I was bound and determinded to get it running this weekend.  Funny how one simple mind fart can turn something so upside down.

the car just needs a fine tuning of the timing and needs to get the vacuum lines sorted out plus Angie needs to set up the carb.

cheers

Pinto5.0

I have one for my sons '80 but I didn't install it yet. I did sort through my wiring though so I know which connections I need for it. Hopefully over the winter I should get to it.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

78_starsky

yes it kills the Msd  and the fuel pump all in one swoop.  do you run a MSD system in your machine?

Pinto5.0

Glad I could help. I was just firing in the dark hoping I hit something  ;D

Just make sure the power wire you connect to the MSD shuts off when you turn the key off or the car will keep running LOL.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

78_starsky

Hey Pinto5,  here is how it went down. LOL

When you said to hook the red wire direct to the battery something clicked in my head.  I did just that and yeppers... she fired and stayed running.  The whole situation then came down to having the wrong power source.  Your one little piece was the missing equation that I was missing.  I was going under the thought process that if the red wire was connected to a 100% live source the MSD would want to run/fire up.  I never made the connection that it wouldn't fire till the starter relay directed power to the line, hence keeping the line charged and running.  I was a bit mistaken for then I used the same wire (white with blue dashes) coming out the firewall and this is the same wire that triggers the toggle switch for the fuel pump line. Kinda hard to explain how I was thinking and how I had it backwards.

thanks again!!!

cheers

Pinto5.0

Cool, I'm curious where the issue was.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
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'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
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78_starsky

Good news.... I GOT IT to RUN!!!!     ok i have to go out for dinner before I get SHOT.... she is huffing and puffing for me to get my butt in the truck to go for dinner....

will update later tonight.

thanks all.

Pinto5.0

Switched power is "key on & in run position"

That second post on the solenoid isn't used & some old solenoids dont even have it. I'm not sure why its there but if its hot when the ignition is on it may have been a pick up point for power.

Just make sure you can pull the red wire off the battery to shut it off if it runs LOL. maybe toss a cheap ON-OFF switch inline just in case.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

78_starsky

Hey Pinto5,   you know what, i will try the red wire hot to battery and see what happens.  didn't try that yet.  how do you mean "by switched power"  and one other thing that I am not sure if it means anything or not,  on the starter relay there are 2 small bolts for wires, i am only hooked up to the cranking one, nothing on the second (right side) no not talking about the main starter wire. 

Oh i think you mean will it start and run directly on a 100% hot feed?

will look into that also.

thanks  cheers

Pinto5.0

I'm wondering if your MSD is connected to the wire that energizes the solenoid when you crank it instead of switched power. If it runs direct to the battery at least you know where the issue is. There isn't a ballast in non- points Pinto's so that shouldn't be it.
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'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Pinto5.0

Have you tried connecting the red wire from the MSD that goes to switched ignition direct to the battery then cranking the engine?
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

78_starsky

Yeppers... RESPECT that coil.... LOL

Ya Pinto5 that is what i was thinking,  rechecked and repositioned it to fit proper. (its new) so that can't be the prob.

was just reading other forums, where on a different vehicle (76 jeep) someone had a faulty "ballast resisitor"  do pintos have one? if so where?  another person had a grounding out wire at the ignition switch (column wires)  now after reading this I feel that I have a more positive place to look.

I have pretty much ruled out anything to do with the MSD set up and the dizzy. For she fires up too nicely while running off the starter.

will keep informed/updated as this progress continues.
thanks guys.

Pinto5.0

I'm thinking it's tied to your ignition swith since power shuts off in the run position.

Here's a funny story from my learning years.....

When I was about 20 I had a Dodge Demon 340 with a solid lifter cam in it. I decided to adjust my valves one day & pulled the coil wire off the distributor so it wouldn't fire up.

It had a Mallory Pro Master coil with about a 22" coil wire on it because I had to put the massive coil on the firewall by the heater blower motor.

I didn't realize I had flipped the coil wire over the fender & I leaned over the fender, wrench in hand & had my buddy bump the engine with the key. Now my crotch happened to be pressing against the coil wire & it discharged right into my twig & berries.

I hit the wall 3 feet behind me & my head dented the drywall 6 1/2 feet above the floor & I'm only 5'6" tall. 3 feet to my left was pegboard with roughly 30 assorted length pegs jutting out at various heights that would have ended me had I impacted there.

I absolutely respect coils when I get anywhere around them nowadays.
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'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Scott Hamilton

Quote from: 78_starsky on October 07, 2012, 11:37:56 AM
Was funny Angie was in the car cranking while I was holding the tester. She said she saw this flash and then me jumping around like an ape with a snake bite.

OH Mann.. this is priceless... This was a good laugh.. Glad you are OK, Good Stuff!
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78_starsky

UPDATE:

this is an interesting problem,  and will write what I have learned so far.  The ignition is msd 6al with msd blaster 2 coil.  The system so far seems to be working properly. spent all day yesterday trouble shooting with no real solving the prob, but eliminated many things.

Rechecked and redid all the wiring to the coil/battery/dizzy. No shorts or mis-wiring.

If you are ever trouble shooting msd ignition NEVER take a trouble light circuit checker or volt meter to the coil's + screw and crank checking for 12 volts or power.  these coils and systems run with 0 volts in run then blast over 400 volts on the screw while cranking. I tried to test for power by doing this with a test light - BEFORE reading on website - i grounded myself and felt like i was shot with a lightning bolt!!!!!  no need to try and wire a positive from the battery direct. (like old school coils (meaning NON MSD) completely different beast here.

destroyed (melted) the light in my tester.  Was funny Angie was in the car cranking while I was holding the tester. She said she saw this flash and then me jumping around like an ape with a snake bite.

Did a check on all spark plugs with an in line lighted tester (the type were you place the tester between the plug's pointy end and the wire boot) it has a light that flickers while cranking/running. all 6 show tons of spark.

From all the reading i did last night I am thinking that I need to check for voltage from the ignition (key side) to see what it is doing. recheck the rod throw on the column ignition switch to see if maybe the whole problem is related to the alignments.

I know the car/motor is firing up and is pretty close to being in time (for not full running) she does fire up on cranking only. and still dies when the key goes back into run position.  Using a remote starter switch still gives the same problem.

last night when i closed up the shop I was amazed how much exhaust fumes I had created so from that I am fully sure she is ready to run.

cheers and any suggestions greatly needed.

thanks

78_starsky

after all this time (3 years) of this build, she is so close to running on her own. when it is on full start it runs (sounds sweet as hell if i may say), but as soon as the key is turned to the run position the motor dies.

running msd ignition and coil.  My thinking is that the coil is not keeping a positive hit from the run position on the ignition switch. 2.8 with auto

any other options to look at in the morning?

thanks