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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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amc49

'.........was the engine rebuilt 60 over? The 302 "thin wall" block does not do well if the overbore is too close to the water jackets (the castings can really vary run to run year to year). 30 over should not be an issue.'

We had this same trouble years back putting in rebuilt 289-302 engines. A couple of .060" did it, on cars that otherwise had not overheated before. Going back to .030" shortblocks fixed them both..................the only difference we could see was the boresize, the overheating shortblocks seemed to have no unusual buildup in the water jackets. After that we accepted no more rebuilds over .030" in anything.

amc49

Just a FYI and some thoughts.

I grew up in the days when you used lots of 180 degree thermostats and I rebelled hard at 195 ones for many years. To begin with, actual engine temperature usually runs some ten degrees over the stat opening temp, or 190 for 180 stat, and around 205 for 195 stat. Of course it can vary.

After running modern PCMed cars for many years I've changed my view on that. Why? Look at how long the cars last now, they go forever. While a lot of that can be attributed to the PCM now controlling A/F better to lower fuel in oil to wear engine less, a lot can be to the modern engines using higher engine temps too. Many use 195 stats now and engine normal temps of 212+. My Contour and Focus cars don't even think of turning the radiator fans on until 225 degrees now. The actual controlled range of engine temp is about 200-205 to 220-225 or so by laptop OBD reading program. Water boils at 212 and engine temp needs to get to that and stay slightly over to remove water. The PCV system does it and most engines now have more PCV sweep volume than older ones did. Water vapor left in motor is a requirement of the acid production process that makes sludge, with no water, sludge buildup drops dramatically. Look under the valve covers of any modern engine that has had oil changed in any kind of a regular way and you see almost dead clean still silver surfaces almost like the car is 6 months old. Even at 200,000 miles. You NEVER saw that low an amount of deposit on older engines.

Now, once the engine temp gets run routinely higher, then a need to regulate it closer since any slight overheat can quickly blossom into a full meltdown. On the cars now, the low fan comes on at 225, and then if nothing cools down the high fan goes on at 235, or a backup system if something starts to go wrong.

Engines actually make more power slightly hotter, proven many times, the oil actually has less friction at higher temp as well. And now it's turning out they last longer running at higher temps too.

I myself would be looking for getting that same slightly higher temp range on an old school motor too, they should last longer doing it. No more 180 stats for me ever again.

pintoman1972

OK Jim,

Looks like you have things well in hand with the 4 core.

With the blower, my car runs at 200 deg.  I don't have room for a 4 core.  Some day I will change over to an aluminum rad but for now I'll stay with what I have.

Dick

jim72

Just a quick update on the cooling issue. I took the radiator to my guy and he put a 4 row core in it Cost me $65.00 cheap enough. I then put a new reverse rotation pump on it and a 160* thermostat. It runs at 175-180 degrees. This is a temp I can live with.  Thanks everyone for your imput on this issue    Jim

jim72

hey Dick; with a 195* thermostat at what temp does the coolant stabilize? Is this with your blower motor? thanks Jim

pintoman1972

I run a 195 deg thermostat with a recovery tank.  The lower 160 deg thermostat does not allow the radiator enough time to cool the liquid. 

Dick

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oldkayaker

Sorry jim72, I just reread my post above and realized it could be interpreted different from what I intended.  I should have written:

       
  • water pump rotation direction does not match installation, it will pump when spun in the wrong direction but not as efficiently (the 289/302 water pumps are available for either direction of rotation)
As stated in the above posts, pump "normal rotation" is same as engine, clockwise when viewed from the front (typically V-belt drive).  Pump "reverse rotation" is reverse of the engine rotation, counterclock wise when viewed from the front (typically serpentine belt drive).  Just to reiterate, the pump being used should be the one designed for the rotation direction it is being driven in.
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

289Wagon

 Why?  Because a serpentine belt type system turns the impeller opposite of the V-belt type. Also the water passages in the timing chain cover are different between the two. The pump & t/c cover have to be a matched set.
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jim72


Pinto5.0

If you're running serpentine you need the reverse rotation pump
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jim72

changed the waterpump yesterday to a clockwise rotation pump (from a reverse direction pump) with no benefit. I pulled the radiator today and sent it to my radiator guru to add a fourth row to it. hopefully that will have some affect.

tbucketjack

Make sure that all the fresh air coming in thru the grill goes thru the radiator, and not around it or over it. With a 195 thermostat and a coolant recovery tank you should be cruising in the safe range. Plus all mentioned in the above posts. Good Luck

oldkayaker

Some random possibilities and/or contributing causes when operating at limits:
 

       
  • water pump impeller rusted or eroded away
  • water pump rotation direction does not match installation, it will pump in reverse direction but not as efficiently (the 289/302 water pumps are available for either direction of rotation)
  • water pump spinning too fast (cavitation) or too slow with one of those large pulley's
  • radiator has cruded up inside since previous installation, this can happen in engine also
  • radiator fins no longer attached to water tubes, this happened to me, press on fins front and back to see if they slide in and out, check all sections of radiator face
  • radiator fins rotting/corroding away, this has also happened to me
  • radiator cap not functioning at a high pressure to increase the boiling point
  • radiator over flow tank not working, allowing air in to circulating system which does not cool as well all water
  • without a thermostat, the pump does not build up as much back pressure in the block to increase the boiling point there, run a orifice plate if no thermostat
  • high numerical rear gear with no overdrive causing elevated rpm operation
  • timing or fuel mixture out of calibration
  • high exhaust back pressure
  • new engine that is not broken in yet
There probably are a hundred more gotchas.  Good luck.
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

jim72

I pulled the blower last night and it helped immensely, however I got after it a couple of times and it went from a fairly stable 210*-215* to 260 and puking coolant. I will try a higher temp thermostat and see I that helps. If not there is going to be a 1971 small window hatch for sale (whole or pieces). My summer fun car is turning into anything but.

Pinto5.0

Yeah, 160 or 175 won't cut it. Most older EFI engines ran 195 & modern engines are running over 200 nowadays
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'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
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289Wagon

 With no stat or one as low as 160* the coolant will just pass through the rad & not have time to cool down. You may want to try like a 195* stat so the coolant will have time in the rad & airflow. Consider most idiot lights don't come on until 260* or so.
Still living the dream...In a points & condenser world.

jim72

I'm running a serpentine reverse direction pump. I had a 160* thermostat in it and it seems to behave better without.

Pinto5.0

For the street you want a thermostat. Without one there is no way to keep the temps under control around town. Try a 195 in it & see if your fan can keep up. The lack of inner fenders is a plus in this case but V8 Pintos are notorious for running hot without massive radiators & huge fans.

Are you running a serpentine belt with the reverse rotation water pump or did you go V-belt & change to a standard rotation pump?
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'76 Wagon driver
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'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

jim72

Meant to mention in my last post that this car has no inner fender sheet metal as some rocket scientist was trying the cheap way out to make it a lightweight Therefore heat escape from the engine compartment shouldn't be an issue.

jim72

I am running a "water wetter" like product which is anti freeze compatable. It is however more effective in a plain water solution.  The engine is a stock bore 1993 rollercam. I am running a 2200 cfm electric fan which puts out quite a breeze. The radiator is a 3core copper which handeled a 460c.i. (385 series) big block in a shoe horn fit 72 maverick both on the street and at the drags with full nitrous passes. I have pulled the thermostat altogether. The only thing I can think of is that as the blower builds heat it transfers to the block and causes this problem. The reason I say this is because ther seems to be a coralation between blower heat buildup and engine heat buildup. If anyone can talk me down, please do.

71HANTO

Just to bring up a couple of nasties, was the engine rebuilt 60 over? The 302 "thin wall" block does not do well if the overbore is too close to the water jackets (the castings can really vary run to run year to year). 30 over should not be an issue. The next possibility is a blown head gasket. Does it blow bubbles with the radiator cap off when you rev it a little?

71HANTO
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Norman Bagi

The other option, just bite the bullet and get an aluminum radiator and an electric fan.  I don't have heat issues with that set up.

Reeves1

You using a product like water wetter ?

There is another one. Not sure/forgot the name. You cannot run it with antifreeze. Speed shops should have it.

Pinto5.0

The Pinto has a much smaller engine compartment & not a lot of areas to let the hot air escape. My '79 V8 Pinto ran cooler with the hood off but still needed a bigger radiator
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'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
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jim72

I am having no luck cooling my '71 v8 summer ride project. I am running the same 3core radiator that I had in my big block v8 (460 c.i.) maverick with no problems. The only thing I can think of is this 302 I have in the pinto has a roots type blower which generates a bit of heat. Is it possible the blower is the problem? Your thoughts, ideas or experiences are invited.