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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Lowering a pinto

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Grumpy

If you are going to lower, do it right. You will avoid bumpsteer problems by using these...
http://www.heidts.com/mustang_ii_2_dropped_steel_spindles.html

They are available from Fat Man's as well and these are forged steel, much stronger than stock.

In addition, get some 11 inch brakes to go with them. They are Granada based with GM single puck calipers(get the big piston ones for manual brakes)...

http://www.heidts.com/mustang_ii_disc_brake_conversion_kits.html

Grumpy
79 Pinto Hatch, Yellow w/White Pony stripes, Pony wheels, 6650 miles

80_2.3_ESS

Quote from: dennll on February 29, 2012, 05:04:08 AM
Nick, what brand rims are those?

They are a set I picked up at a swap meet for 50 bucks. They looked like they had sat in a barn for 25 years. They had so much oxidation on them. Took me and my dad a full weekend of sanding and polishing them to get them that good looking. The brand itself is "Western Wheels".

They were the older "uni-lug" set-up with the slots for the lug-nuts to fit different bolt patterns. They are not new wheels, so I cannot give you a good place to look for them.
Nick in CT

1980 2.3L Pinto ESS

dennll

Nick, what brand rims are those?

Menace Kustoms

That just doesn't look lowered at all to me. It's cool, just not low.

80_2.3_ESS

Quote from: dennll on February 26, 2012, 09:19:04 PM
Sorry, resurrecting this thread, but I think it's relevant...

Has someone worked out the formula for maximum wheel/tire size with respect to stock wheel well clearance and lowering? I see a couple tire size recommendations here based on how much the car is lowered, but would be nice to have a rule of thumb to work with. Figured into this rule would be how much clearance you need to leave for suspension travel, turning, handling characteristics. Anyone?

On my car, an 80 Pinto, I have Racer Walsh lowering springs in the front that my dad put into the car back in the early 80's (yes, the car is a "hand-me-down" lol). for the rear, we took out the blocks between the springs and rear-end, which raised it a little. Gives the car a mean looking rake to it. Also has a Mustang II 8" in the back, not sure if that alters the ride height at all.

As for tires, I am running 14's all the way around, I think they are 8's in the back and 7's in the front. Back tires are 245-60-14's, and the fronts are 205-60-14's if I recall correctly. No rub in the back, and just minor rub in the front when the wheel is turned all the way to one side or the other.







Nick in CT

1980 2.3L Pinto ESS

Menace Kustoms

Hmmm, that's almost low enough . . .

lefty



Lowered mine 3" front and back -shorter springs on front-3 " lowering blocks on back.  Run 14" rims on front and 15"rims on back


dennll

Sorry, resurrecting this thread, but I think it's relevant...

Has someone worked out the formula for maximum wheel/tire size with respect to stock wheel well clearance and lowering? I see a couple tire size recommendations here based on how much the car is lowered, but would be nice to have a rule of thumb to work with. Figured into this rule would be how much clearance you need to leave for suspension travel, turning, handling characteristics. Anyone?

LouisD

All good stuff to know guys! Thanks for all the help!

PintoMan1

i have lowering spindles on my '73. just had to have the tie rod holes reemed out alittle to fit stock tie rod ends.
1973 pinto runabout

Pinto5.0

My '80 has 83K garage kept miles & the rear springs are firm so the lowering blocks are perfect for her. It will not see over 150 HP so wrap up wont be an issue. I do have new Moog spring & shackle bushings as well as spring isolators so all slop will be gone when I get back there & replace everything.

As stated, lowering spindles don't fit '71-'73 models.

If your springs are solid you can have them de-arched at any spring shop. It used to run about $35 bucks to do a pair but that probably went up some. I don't recommend blocks if you plan to exceed 300 HP either unless a good set of ladder bars is included out back.
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'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

LouisD


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LouisD

^ Thats a good plan for the bus. Its so much fun camping and cruising around in some old vw's. And if you ever get  bored, feel free to drag one of the 7 down to florida lol. Tow it with the bus and make a road trip out of it! Then we can hit up some FL campsites vw style! lol

pintogirl

Quote from: LouisD on September 04, 2011, 05:02:55 PM
Thanks! That's a very nice '70 you got there too! So whats the plan for it? Slam? Stock? Love the slight patina! Its a fine example, make sure you get on earlybay then lol.

Thanks Bruce, I'll check that out!

Still need to find a car..... Pintos seem to be far and few between around FL.

The plan is to just clean it up and camp in it!! :D  Already joined EarlyBay!! Thanks for the link!!


As far as Pintos, to bad you didn't live closer. I have a few to spare! LOL I have 7 Pintos right now. :D
Kim
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I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

LouisD

QuoteYour Bay is so cool!! I love the paint!!

I just picked up a Bay today!! Here is the photobucket page on it!!! I'm so excited! 

http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/myhrdly/70%20Bus/

I'm justcruzin on the Samba!! Guess I can join that early Bay forum now too!

Thanks! That's a very nice '70 you got there too! So whats the plan for it? Slam? Stock? Love the slight patina! Its a fine example, make sure you get on earlybay then lol.

Thanks Bruce, I'll check that out!

Still need to find a car..... Pintos seem to be far and few between around FL.

D.R.Ball

Bruce, good call on springsnthings.com they have the parts I'm looking for, spring pads etc..

baflinn

Louis, I had a set of rear leafs built with a 1" de-arc (drop) by this shop in PA they can go as far as a 2" drop and the product is top notch. Lowering blocks will not help you as much as a de-arced spring if you're looking to build a racer. The block while lowering the ride height doesn't change the spring dynamics and if you're running old springs they're gonna be spongy. If you buy generics from JC Whitney or someone else you may not get a matched pair and everyone else selling them I found to be more expensive.

Shop around and do a comparison - granted I bought mine a few years back so the prices may have changed but it's worth a look.

http://www.springsnthings.com/leaf-springs

I have bought many of my suspension parts from them and have never been disappointed. - BruceF
Liquidating all Pinto related parts.

Current list can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruceflinn/8007178278/in/photostream

pintogirl

Your Bay is so cool!! I love the paint!!

I just picked up a Bay today!! Here is the photobucket page on it!!! I'm so excited!  ;D

http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/myhrdly/70%20Bus/

I'm justcruzin on the Samba!! Guess I can join that early Bay forum now too! :D

Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

LouisD

Quoteit is a very tried-true & effective way to lower the rear of a leaf spring car to enhance handling & steer clear of excessive leverage/torque acting on the rear suspension as a result of increasing the dimension from the leaf spring mounting pad to the axle tube centerline.

it works. it aint cheap, but it is a tried and true method.
I'll do some researching on this. Any info on how it is done?

QuoteOn the lowering spindles, they are made for the 74-80 suspensions and will not fit the 71-73 suspension.  Your former blue Pinto appears to be a 71-73 model.  Not sure what you are looking to get.

Racer Walsh also has a free paper catalog that is much more user friendly than their web page for this stuff.
Hmm, I'd prefer an early model but I can always retro fit an early front clip. I plan on getting pretty much what ever I find for the right price lol. Already ordered the walsh catalog :D


QuoteHere is a link to my photobucket page for the bus.

http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/myhrdly/VW%20Bus/

Do go to The Samba forum?
Very cool! Ya im on samba, sn: hightopbay.  Here's my build thread for the bus so far on earlybay.com
http://forum.earlybay.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31242

pintogirl

Quote from: LouisD on September 01, 2011, 10:10:56 PM
And very cool pintogirl, any pics of them?


Here is a link to my photobucket page for the bus.

http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m247/myhrdly/VW%20Bus/

Do go to The Samba forum?
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

r4pinto

The easiest way to lower a Pinto is to leave the saggy, worn out parts on it... If my car sat any lower it would drag the ground all the time.  :lol:
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

oldkayaker

On the lowering spindles, they are made for the 74-80 suspensions and will not fit the 71-73 suspension.  Your former blue Pinto appears to be a 71-73 model.  Not sure what you are looking to get.

Racer Walsh also has a free paper catalog that is much more user friendly than their web page for this stuff.
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

Srt

as far as de-arching leaf springs goes "....de-arching springs are (sic) old school .."

it is a very tried-true & effective way to lower the rear of a leaf spring car to enhance handling & steer clear of excessive leverage/torque acting on the rear suspension as a result of increasing the dimension from the leaf spring mounting pad to the axle tube centerline.

it works. it aint cheap, but it is a tried and true method.
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Pinto5.0

I don't know about every set made but most are designed to use the stock 9" brakes. There are a couple cast for GM rotors & calipers as well.
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'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

LouisD

sweet! Do you happen to know if the stock brakes will bolt on the ebay drop spindles without the ebay caliper bracket too?

Pinto5.0

Quote from: LouisD on September 01, 2011, 10:10:56 PM
Pinto5.0, where do you get the drop spindles from?

I got lucky & found them on the scratch & dent table at Summit minus the original box for $75 but Ebay is loaded with them as is Speedway.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

LouisD

Thanks for the heads up D.R.Ball, I'll give walsh a call.

And very cool pintogirl, any pics of them?

Pinto5.0, where do you get the drop spindles from?

Pinto5.0

To lower my son's 4 cyl. '80 I got new rubber isolators to keep the squeak away & an old set of cast steel, not aluminum, 2" Racer Walsh blocks for the rear & a set of forged 2" drop spindles for the front. Combined with 215/65/14 front tires & 255/55/15 rear tires I should get a good rake & fill the wheelwells & still maintain stock suspension travel & near stock ground clearance.

For my V8 car I'm kicking around airbags to drop on demand.

That's the 2 common ways. Cutting coils & de-arching springs are old school methods.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

pintogirl

I have no idea how to lower a Pinto, but I just wanted to say that you sound kind of like me! THat is in the reguards of the cars you own! LOL I too own a VW Bus and a Miata!  ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA