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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

hit a pothole have a clunk now

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anon the mouse

You may have picked up a Gremlin, they're out there hiding somewhere.

JEdgar

My neighbor has this problem whenever he drives his clunker.

dave1987

While i dont think it would cause alignment to be that far out, it can cause alignment issues. Grab the rod and try moving it around and forwards and back. Thqre shpuldnt be any play.
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Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

ToniJ1960

 I dont know I had new inner tie rods put on it before I hit the hole, do you think a rod end could cause this?

dave1987

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

ToniJ1960

 Yesterday I realized the car is pulling to the right and I have to keep my steering wheel about 15 or 20 degrees to the left from where it used to be to be centered.

Could hitting that cave in the road have caused this? And what would it be.

ToniJ1960

 Well it was doing ok and I havent heard anything, until today. Now when I turn a corner it sounds like something sliding from one side to another in front. I looked around under the car and didnt see anything and the wheels dont wiggle or anything, highway driving no vibration or shaking.

And the ground under where I always park has been getting soaked it looks like its too big of an area to just be from the power teering leak. Maybe not,but I have been adding more oil lately. If its losing much oil just sitting it would have to pretty much be the oil pan leaking wouldnt it? This car might be headed to the junkyard soon if I get tired of all the things popping up. I had it for almost 26 years but Im getting old and tired of playing with it.

postalpony

I had a similar situation after installing the upper urethane bushings in my '80. The way  they mount you lose the locking ability of the steel bushing (no serrations) so the nuts can back off & spit the bushing out. This happened at about 65 mph, I thought that something had came off the road & hit under my foot. The steering & handling did not change so as I could notice. When I found the problem I made a new bushing out of delrin & then proceded to use jam nuts with RED lock-tite on  ALL the uppers.  I have not had a problem after that in about 4 yrs.  I hope this might help.
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Now all we do is HAUL!
5th gear 4700 rpm & still pullin'= 113+  mph

UPDATE-83.762 mph in 4th gear As verified by a W Va State Trooper-WITH 1 GEAR TO GO 6-2-11

dave1987

I'm wondering if one of your coil springs popped out of its seat and worked its way back.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

82expghost

i had the same thing happen, but then i found out my leafspring snapped, it was being held together by the leaf straps, could look there
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ToniJ1960

 Just for an update, Im not hearing the clunking that I heard at the store when it first happened. I rolled back and forth and tapped the brakes about 7 or 8 times and it made it every time. After driving home it didnt do it when I pulled into the driveway. Didnt drive it or bother with it Saturday, but since been driving it and havent heard it.

Could a strut rod do that and just go back in place or something? I found one end of the sway bar loose so it needs a link kit or whatever. But the noise was heavier and more of a thunk something with weight on it. I could be wrong and it was the sway bar end hitting somewhere.

JohnW

Quote from: tonij1960 on December 01, 2011, 09:02:50 PM
It doesnt seem to be that major please dont be a ball joint :(

Why not?  Those really aren't that major of a repair. 
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ToniJ1960

 Did you just gt the bushings? It looks like come with the metal plates and new nuts I wonder if I need the whole  things are just the bushings. I can get the bushings at oreillys.

RSM

I sure hope they aren't lol. I put a set in my wagon since I had to pull the strut rods to install the headers.

ToniJ1960

 It sounds like it to me too that just sounds like it makes sense. If the balljoint is forced in place somehow an instability wouldnt show up.

Does anyone have some input on polyurethane strut rod bushings I read somewhere they can be the cause of a strut rod breaking.

RSM

to me it sounds like you know what ur talking about Ric

289Wagon

 Since I've been told on here I don't know what I'm talking about, you may wish to ignore this.
When the coil spring is set on the lower control arm ie; Pinto, you need to place the jack under the arm to check for ball joint play. If it sits on the upper arm ie; early mustang/falcon you place the jack under the cross member.
Going by your symptoms I would join the others who suggested a strut rod bushing. I would also ckeck the brake calipers for fore & aft movement. One or both of them may have been loose & hitting the pothole didn't help matters.
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I would say first check strut rod bushing at frame.   Fred    :)
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dave1987

For a ball joint just raise the car off the ground enough to put a pry bar under the tire and then try to "lift the car". If there is any upwards movement or clink it is a bad ball joint.

For the tie rods you can grab the tie rod and try moving it forwards, backwards, in and out. If there is excessive play or any clink then it is a bad tie rod end.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

ToniJ1960

 I could see how you can think that because it clunks moving forward and it clunks moving backward. But a u joint would clunk when you first start to meve as it goes together or moves apart, not when you put on the brakes. I had a bad u joint a few years ago had a new one put in.

To make it more clear it is in the front but I couldnt really tell which side it was on. I guess tomorrow I need to get under the front and see if I can see anything. Had a lazy day today :)

If its a balljoint or tie rod or end,wouldnt I need to have the tires off the ground to check them for wiggle?

blupinto

How about a U-joint? Could that go bad after hitting a pothole- especially if it's already worn out?
One can never have too many Pintos!

D.R.Ball

Do a visual first,than use a pry bar to see if any thing is lose....You can do this on the ground.

RSM


dave1987

Yeah, there are a handful of things I would check if it were my own car, but a ball joint would be the first with how you are hearing the sound. It could very well be the strut rod, not to sure how it could cause it to knock more than before, though. Perhaps the bushing was moved by the impact and now the rod is riding on the hole in the subframe instead of on a bushing?

Here's what I would check:

All hardware on the control arms
Shocks
Strut rods
Wheel bearings (unlikely)
Sway bar end links (if applicable)
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

ToniJ1960

 It doesnt seem to be that major please dont be a ball joint :(

It doesnt even do it every time, and I know the strut rod bushing was a little loose on one side already someone showed it to me when they were working on my brakes.

dave1987

I did that once and lost a lower shock bolt.

I would be thinking it took out a ball joint, in your case, though.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

ToniJ1960

 Darn grocery store driveway has a cave in it that squirrels could live in.

Know the car clunks when stopping move forward a little hit the brakes clunk.Move backwards hit the brakse clunk. No clunk when first starting to move doesnt seem like a tie rod end. Strut rod bushing? Inner tie rod? Sometimes it sounds like a double clunk.