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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

VACUUM LEAK FROM HELL

Started by lefty, January 26, 2012, 08:26:35 PM

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lefty

I posted "distributor has a little black plastic round canister between the distributor and the vacuum line to the carb on the the canister it says "CARB" on one end and Distributor on the other

One of the responses to my posting was this "And yes if you have that one way valve backwards it does affect how the engine runs. You have no vacuum to the dist if you have it backwards".

FYI-I removed the canister and plugged the vacuum line from my Distributor  into another vacuum port on the intake manifold (I  had my vacuum port plugged into a vacuum port on my carb) and --bang the whole problem went away-my engine idle was there, no up and down rpm. I tuned the carb a bit and now the engine starts right up, and idles ---

also set vacuum hose to proper ported vacuum and things are humming along now--AGAIN THANKS TO ALL OF U FOR THE HELP.....

ToniJ1960

 It sounds like that vacuum delay valve or maybe theyre called spark delay valves, might have had a crack and was leaking in air. I think some are black and white and some are blue and white there may be others, I think its a color code for different delay in seconds. Im thinking about putting mine back in because of some timing issues.

slowride

Oh no, you can't just end it that way. What was the fix?

lefty

thanks to all of you for you help-got everything squared away,,again thanks a lot...

slowride

Quote from: lefty on January 31, 2012, 12:10:05 AM
there is a vacuum tree on the back portion of the block -has three small vacuum outlets and one large vacuum outlet--I have my power brake booster plugged into the larger outlet and the distb plugged into one of the small outlets..  I am still trying to figure out where I plug my vacuum line (s ?)for my transmission (the vacuum modulator has two vacuum input -I thought the Pinto vacuum modulator only had on vacuum input ???
lefty

OK, this may help knock out a couple issues. The vacuum tree on the intake is for the booster and vacuum modulator. The distributor should be connected to the ported vacuum on the CARB, not the intake. If you have a modulator with 2 vacuum nipples you have a couple options. "T" them together into a single line to the tree, or replace the modulator with a single nipple style.

lefty

there is a vacuum tree on the back portion of the block -has three small vacuum outlets and one large vacuum outlet--I have my power brake booster plugged into the larger outlet and the distb plugged into one of the small outlets..  I am still trying to figure out where I plug my vacuum line (s ?)for my transmission (the vacuum modulator has two vacuum input -I thought the Pinto vacuum modulator only had on vacuum input ???
lefty

mrskydog

I had a very similar problem on my 78 2.3, I spent hours tracking what I thought acted like vac leaks. I installed new base gaskets,no change at all.  Found one possible at my EGR block off plate. It still was not 100% after that . It ended up ,that I replaced my rebuilt carb. with a secound Re-man Carb. runs smooth as can be. Internal Vac leak carb maybe.?? I dont know runs a+ now.........Kirk
"Living the Dream...Driving Old Fords"
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1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
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RSM

Just to let you know, the intake is constant vacuum. You need ported vacuum to the dist. Plugging it into the intake will pull full advance on the distributor which is hard on the engine and affects fuel mileage. You may have actually had an issue with ported vacuum on the carb and didn't know it. The port that the vacuum line was hooked to, should have no vacuum at idle and should increase as the engine rpm is increased. You might want to check it and see if it was working properly. You can hook a vacuum gauge to it and test it. You really need the dist on ported vacuum for it to function correctly.

lefty

I posted "distributor has a little black plastic round canister between the distributor and the vacuum line to the carb on the the canister it says "CARB" on one end and Distributor on the other

One of the responses to my posting was this "And yes if you have that one way valve backwards it does affect how the engine runs. You have no vacuum to the dist if you have it backwards".

FYI-I removed the canister and plugged the vacuum line from my Distributor  into another vacuum port on the intake manifold (I  had my vacuum port plugged into a vacuum port on my carb) and --bang the whole problem went away-my engine idle was there, no up and down rpm. I tuned the carb a bit and now the engine starts right up, and idles ---

THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR HELP AND INPUT --I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH..
LEFTY

Jessi

You don't really describe the problem much other than to say it is a vacuum leak, but there are other things that can make an engine seem like it has a vacuum leak, so keep that in mind. For instance a bad accelerator pump valve can hesitation and misfire. An EGR valve that is stuck open (I know you said you are not running one, but just as an example) can have the same effects as a vacuum leak. Believe it or not even a mis-sized PCV valve can seem like a vacuum leak.

You should really get a vacuum gauge on it. They are pretty inexpensive and a very telling and handy tool on these older cars. As a general rule most engines run at between 16 and 22 inches of mercury (there should be a standard for your engine some where on the internet, or in a service manual).  Anything lower than that is a vacuum leak, or problem like I mentioned above (like the EGR). If the vacuum gradually drops it is more than likely an exhaust restriction. Vacuum that jumps around usually means you have bad valve guides, or something wrong with a valve. I had a 79 Ranchero GT with the 400M engine, and it had the fluctuating vacuum, sure enough it was a cracked intake valve. There can even be wear on the throttle shaft on the carb that can cause noticeable leaks.

I would also check anything that you have done as of late that could have caused the issue. I wouldn't assume that it was a head issue, unless you had severely over heated lately or something like that. I would however like mentioned by someone else be suspect of the carb space. They are more often than not a problem. Hope this helps.
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RSM

Just for kicks did you try capping off the vacuum port to the booster? It's entirely possible the intake is warped but it's gotta come off to be checked which is a pain in the rear.

lefty

Dave,
Not running a EGR valve-this whole thing has me stumped for sure, one thing when I spray starting fluid around the intake manifold bolts on #4 runner the rpm goes up slightly (just enough to hear it) but then again I had the carb air cleaner off when I sprayed the intake bolts and I suspect some of the starting fluid mist was sucked into the carb making the rpm increase.  when I get the car started and it is warm the rpm goes up and down quite a lot... like I said I have capped every known vacuum port and the only port operating is to the power brake booster.  I starting to think maybe the intake manifold is warped just enough to allow a vacuum leak somewhere along it's base. As you know it is almost impossible to get to the bottom bolts of the intake..  When I rap the throttle I am not getting a crisp response either.  Keep trying I guess until I locate the problem......

dave1987

Did you check your EGR valve base? I had a severe vacuum leak like yours a couple years ago and it turned out the base of my EGR valve was cracked. Not enough to break apart at the time, but after removing it a third time it came apart in two pieces. Any testing for leaks, even with carb cleaner or starter fluid showed no signs of a leak though, so I was baffled at the time.

I now run the car without the EGR valve or tube, capped the manifold and made a block off plate for the EGR port on the intake using 1/4" sheet aluminum, and a paper EGR gasket between the plate and the manifold.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

lefty

the only vacuum line I have hooked up is to the power brake booster the rest have been capped-and I will check the spacer gasket--I had to make my own gaskets (using Mr Gasket material with is extra thick) there is a gasket between the spacer and the intake manifold and one between the spacer and the carb.

RSM

Something you might want to check is that spacer. Are you 100% positive that it is sealed up and no vacuum leaks around it? I ran into a spacer issue years ago. It looked like everything was sealed up but when I removed the carb and inspected the gaskets really good I found where the carb bolted to the spacer it did not cover everything 100% and it had a vacuum leak. Have you tried capping of every vacuum port to narrow down what you need to check? If so I'd take a look at that spacer. When I hear someone say spacer it raises a red flag. An yes if you have that one way valve backwards it does affect how the engine runs. You have no vacuum to the dist if you have it backwards. What that does is, it stops any pressure from popping the diaphram in the vacuum advance if the engine backfires.

Jessi

I like to take a small propane cylinder and torch, like you use for soldering pipe. I turn the gas on (don't light it) and slowly run the tip over and near any areas that could possibly leek. When the propane gets sucked into the leak the engine idle will noticeably change. My grandfather who was a Ford mechanic back in the day used this method for years, and taught it to me. This is not only much, much safer than starting fluid, but because it is a gas it gets sucked into leaks, and dissipates faster.

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lefty

I have replaced the power brake booster with a new one --I am running a C3 transmission, the vacuum hose is not connected at all to the vacuum modulator on the transmission (no hose at all) the distributor has a little black plastic round canister between the distributor and the vacuum line to the carb on the the canister it says "CARB" on one end and Distrubtor on the other I had them reversed--"""WOULD THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN HOW THE ENGINE RUNS???  I HAVE REPLACED OR CAPPED ALL VACUUM LINES --------------I AM COMPLETELY PUZZLED HERE

77pintocw

Hey lefty:

Have you checked the vacuum reservoir (tin can)?  It is originally located
between the passenger side door and body.  These can easily
get a hole in them especially on the bottom.

Thanks,

77pintocw
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

dave1987

Manual or auto trans?  Sometimes the vacuum hose at the modulator on autos can slip off
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Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

flash041

I just replaced my brake booster yesterday.It was leaking vacuum. I found it by pinching off the large vacuum hose leading to it with a pair of swivel foot vise grips .My idle dropped 200 rpm! It was sucking a lot of air.
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Fred Morgan

Distributor diaphram also go for brake booster if you have and don't use starting fluid unless you have exstigisher at hand use WD-40.   Fred    :)
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lefty

I have a severe vacuum on in my 1978 2.3 Pinto Engine.  I have tried all the tricks to locate it, replaced all the vacuum lines, used sprayed starting fluid around the intake manifold base-intake manifold where it bolts to the head. I am using a 1 inch spacer on the carb.  Anybody out there have any ideas at all on where to check, a new approach to finding etc???

I would appreciate any input from you mechanics out there.....

thanking you all in advance

Lefty