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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Quote from: Bigtimmay on October 27, 2011, 12:12:47 PM

Yah but as I was stating that ebay listing said its from and 88 turbocoupe not just a normal thunderbird. An well 87-88 thunderbird didnt have wheel options they only came with one kind of wheels which was 16 inch snowflakes and they all had a 16 inch steel spare. Thats why I said I think that guys full of crap. So if your gunna go look through wrecking yards for these spare dont look through 87-88 thunderbirds it will be a waste of time they dont have them.

I see what you meant now. I heard TurboCoupe from quite a few people so I assumed they had them. I know Mustangs for sure were outfitted with them based on wheel options & all Cobra's had one but I'm no expert.
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Bigtimmay

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on October 27, 2011, 05:10:31 AM
I think it all depended on which wheels came on your car as to whether it came with the aluminum spare. 

Yah but as I was stating that ebay listing said its from and 88 turbocoupe not just a normal thunderbird. An well 87-88 thunderbird didnt have wheel options they only came with one kind of wheels which was 16 inch snowflakes and they all had a 16 inch steel spare. Thats why I said I think that guys full of crap. So if your gunna go look through wrecking yards for these spare dont look through 87-88 thunderbirds it will be a waste of time they dont have them.
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Pinto5.0

Quote from: 80_2.3_ESS on October 26, 2011, 06:24:51 PM
Okay, got some pics for you guys.

I like the look of that with the flat floor. I'm glad I decided to go that route.

Quote from: Bigtimmay on October 26, 2011, 09:22:25 PM

I read that ebay post where it says it was removed from a 88 turbocoupe. Well im here to say I think hes full of crap! Cause ive owned 3 one 87s and two 88s and none of them came with and aluminum spare they all had the 16" spare that is steel.
The only TC ive seen with the 15 inch aluminum wheels is the 83-86 and supposedly some 90 mustang GTs.

I think it all depended on which wheels came on your car as to whether it came with the aluminum spare. If I think about it I'll snap pix of mine in the trunk well to see how it fits with the 165/80-15 front runner tire. Thats the size I'll be running up front anyhow so it's a perfect spare if it fits the well. If you are running 13's then you may want to opt for the porta-spare tire that comes on them since it's way shorter.

BTW, there is no reason you cant run the steel Mustang porta-spare if you can't find an aluminum one. The only difference is maybe 8 pounds & it isn't as pretty. Either one will flatten the hatch floor if you wanna go with flat carpet back there.
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Bigtimmay

Quote from: JohnW on October 26, 2011, 08:56:46 PM
They came in the t-birds too?  I know a turbo one I've been keeping my eye on for the engine swap that might have one then.  What's the diameter of the tire?

I read that ebay post where it says it was removed from a 88 turbocoupe. Well im here to say I think hes full of crap! Cause ive owned 3 one 87s and two 88s and none of them came with and aluminum spare they all had the 16" spare that is steel.
The only TC ive seen with the 15 inch aluminum wheels is the 83-86 and supposedly some 90 mustang GTs.
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JohnW

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on October 26, 2011, 06:00:21 PM

This is what you want. I picked up 2 of them(1 rim & the other with a nice 165R15 tire on it) for $50 on craigslist. The jack should fit fine.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/79-93-Ford-Mustang-GT-Capri-RS-4-lug-Factory-Aluminum-Spare-Wheel-Tire-/370552715670?hash=item5646a9b996&item=370552715670&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr
They came in the t-birds too?  I know a turbo one I've been keeping my eye on for the engine swap that might have one then.  What's the diameter of the tire?
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80_2.3_ESS

Okay, got some pics for you guys.

I talked to my dad, and he said he remembers calling to order it, and speaking to them over the phone. I am almost certain that he found the place on Ebay though, so I do not know who the exact vendor or company was.

I took these pics for you guys as requested. It is flat, and you can see in the back where it folds up cause it's too long. The package came with both pieces of carpet, the one for the back of the rear seat, and the one for the back of the hatch area.

I also took a pic of the clip that holds it to the metal backing of the seat. it is nice and robust, and holds the carpet there well.









Let me know if there is any other pics or info you guys may need / want.
Nick in CT

1980 2.3L Pinto ESS

Pinto5.0

Quote from: JohnW on October 26, 2011, 10:40:33 AM
What year Mustangs had them?  Fox bodys?  And do you think the factory jack would fit under it?

This is what you want. I picked up 2 of them(1 rim & the other with a nice 165R15 tire on it) for $50 on craigslist. The jack should fit fine.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/79-93-Ford-Mustang-GT-Capri-RS-4-lug-Factory-Aluminum-Spare-Wheel-Tire-/370552715670?hash=item5646a9b996&item=370552715670&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr
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JohnW

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on October 21, 2011, 08:04:40 PMI was planning to use a Mustang aluminum 4 bolt mini-spare anyway so I may be able to remove the padding & get this flat anyhow.
What year Mustangs had them?  Fox bodys?  And do you think the factory jack would fit under it?
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80_2.3_ESS

Hey guys, just wanted to drop you a line.

I have been really busy these past couple days, and I just finally found my camera. I will be taking pics of the carpet tonight.
Nick in CT

1980 2.3L Pinto ESS

Pinto5.0

My original plan was to get a black vinyl tire cover & cut a Pinto logo out of gold vinyl & have it sewed on then get automotive carpet & trim it to fit including cut a hole for the spare & have border edging sewn on & attach the stock clip at the front.

I figure that was gonna run me 200 of better but would look pretty good.
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dave1987

In that case I might just get a hold of SMS auto fabrics and order matching carpet to what my passenger area is, then get some medium tone brown vinyl to sew on around it. I figure if I am making cargo covers for my rear cargo area, I'm sure I can do the carpet up!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Pinto5.0

I finally got a reply. Here it is right out of my email.

"Our trunk mat is not molded, but sewn. Our reproduction trunk mat has two extra layers of jute that will go around the spare tire so that the trunk mat lays flat and there is no bulge. No sewing is needed. As for the clip, a piece of abs plastic is sewn to the back of the carpet along the edge that reaches the folding seat. This is the part that will fit to the folding rear seat and seems to be exactly like the 'clip' you are looking for.

If you choose to order this trunk mat I would like to guarantee satisfaction. Please keep in mind this is a replacement reproduction mat and may not be Exactly like the original.
We have very positive customer feed back on our reproduction items and I encourage you to check some of those comments out.

Thanks for your interest,
Erin"

It sounds like there will be 1 1/2" of padding around the spare so this sits flat. Thats a cool idea but if your hatch seal leaks the jute will hold moisture & rust the floor. I was planning to use a Mustang aluminum 4 bolt mini-spare anyway so I may be able to remove the padding & get this flat anyhow.

I think I may just have to pull the trigger & see what I get for my money. I wish they would have answered the color question. I'll have ti try again.
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Pinto5.0

I re-sent my questions, I have the money ready to Paypal this just as soon as I get my answers.
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80_2.3_ESS

I'll have to ask my dad tomorrow, he was the one who found it. I could have sworn he got it from someone on ebay, but I think he called and spoke with them and ordered it over the phone. I'll take some pics tomorrow when I get out of work, and I will ask him what the story is on it.
Nick in CT

1980 2.3L Pinto ESS

dave1987

Sounds like your carpet is for a station wagon, which does not have a raised spare tire well, and is longer in the back than the hatch is. Now us station wagon people are interested, where did you get it?! :)
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

80_2.3_ESS

I bought one for my 80 ESS. Not sure if it was this exact one. Got it in black to match the rest of the interior. Very nice product. Has the plastic clip-thing that attatches to the metal folding portion on the back seat.

Unfortunately, it was not molded to have a bump where the spare tire is. I pulled mine out since it was the wrong size, and wrong bolt pattern. Put an amp for the radio in that portion, then put a piece of plywood over it, and then the flat carpet. Looks really nice now.

For some reason, mine is roughly 4 inches too long. I'm not sure if it is supposed to tuck inside of the rear plastic molding or what. I just folded it 90 degrees up and it rests on the plastic molding. nobody notices and it doesnt look bad unless you are being really picky.

I can take some pics tonight if you would like to see.
Nick in CT

1980 2.3L Pinto ESS

Pinto5.0

Still waiting to hear from them. Depending on the answers I'll buy one & review it. This is the only part of my '80 interior that isn't perfect so  I really want one of these.
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JoeBob

just posting here so that It will pop up when you update
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Pinto5.0

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649&item=310352545446&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&vxp=mtr

I'm waiting on some more answers about molding around the spare, color choices & the clip that attaches to the seat panel but I did find out that it will be a carpet not a rubber mat. I'll post when I get the answers.
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