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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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tpk

You may want to check the starter as it could be jammed or has a dead spot. In addition, the motor could be seized as the starter gear may already be engaged to the flywheel. Another check would be the solenoid as this could be bad.

Hope this helps and good luck.
TPK

bigmo1985

another update replaced that carb base plate gasket because it was almost completely gone, cleaned out the runners and re gapped the plugs, checked the firing order and made sure wires are where they are supposed to go still no start can some one help me out with a vaccum diagram for this carb. please

Smurfette

Quote from: bigmo1985 on March 11, 2011, 09:44:22 AM
thanks tinkerman my local auto parts store does have a kit i wish mine only had that many miles mine has well over 200000 but from what i was told she ran great now I'm just waiting to get her going again because my truck is KILLING me on gas i get 7 miles to the gallon so I'm trying my hardest to get her running again

Actually, she's only got about 123XXX on her. I promise. I rolled her over her first 1k a few months after I bought her.

71pintoracer

fuel is most likely washing the cylinders down causing the low compression. fix the carb issue and change the oil, change the plugs and she should fire.  :)   the 5200 series carbs are super simple.
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

75bobcatv6

psi should be 120-140 i "think"

r4pinto

Big Mo,

I would have to say you have a float issue or plugged jets in the carb somewhere. My 77 had a similar issue to where it was spitting gas & it turned out to be the float & plugged carb.
Matt Manter
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bigmo1985

ok another update, got in it the shop and only had 55 psi on nunmber one and two then put oil on top of all the pistons and then got one and two up to 95 and 3 and 4 have 105. Can someone PLEASE tell me what the compresion ratio on this car and now i know that no fuel is gettin to the piston chambers but it is flooding itself at the carb. When i say flood i mean you it starts to spit fuel out the top of it. Some one please help

75bobcatv6

before opting to rebuild the carb, id check and make sure there is spark first. Remove the Coil wire from the Dist and test it against the Block or Manifold while Cranking the engine. if you have spark, then look at fuel =D Just my 2 cents

tinkerman73

Yes, 12 MPGs in my van is why I got the pinto(and to have a cool project vehicle HEHEHE). Good luck
Jody Michielsen

r4pinto

To see if it is fuel spray some starter fluid down the carb, pump the pedal a couple times & see if she attempts to start. If it does that confirms a fuel problem... That is if you haven't already tried that  ;D
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

bigmo1985

thanks tinkerman my local auto parts store does have a kit i wish mine only had that many miles mine has well over 200000 but from what i was told she ran great now I'm just waiting to get her going again because my truck is KILLING me on gas i get 7 miles to the gallon so I'm trying my hardest to get her running again

tinkerman73

If it ran three months ago, I would start by doing a quick and easy carb clean as well as putting some fresh gas in the tank with dry gas. If it ran three months ago and was a daily driver, then it shouldnt need much at all! My car was a driver, then sat for some time. Sat motionless durring the winter until I went to look at it. he had charged the battery and cranker her over. Startright up and I have put on  around 400 miles on mine already. Only has about 75,000 miles on it in the last 34 years, so you know it has sat many times in its life! Go to the home page and do a search for rebuilding car. I am sure there must be something around here on the carb to help you figure out how to do a simple clean and if need be, a rebuild. The rebuild kit I think should still be available at your local parts store? I know mine is! Glad to hear that it did crank over for you!
Jody Michielsen

bigmo1985

update

i got it to turn over but now no start i think the jets in carb, clogged are these carbs a pain to rebuild and if not rebuildable, what is a ball park figure for a new carb. Oh and the problem was the battery that was in it had a bad cell, but tested fine with a hand held tester. Thanks for the advice.

Mike Modified

Ground! Ground!  Ground! 

Check and cleant battery to chassis ground. 

Check and clean engine to chassis ground.

Mike

tinkerman73

I know these systems are fairly easy. I like to tinker on garden tractors and olt rototillars etc. I had one once that I swore it had to be the battery. I would only get a click. I broke down and spent $40 in a new battery. I was ticked when I got a click! I had tried to jump through the starter selenoid. Still just a click. Ended up needed to replace the starter selenoid! The next step in my mind would be how is the starter. See, I would first put a nice wrench on the front of the crank and see if she turns. If the fella was truthful to you about no issues, then it certainly should not be froze up! ON a starter. If it was parked wet, there could be a slight surface rust on the bendix. If you try tapping on it moderatly(not heavy!) while someone tries to turn the car over. If that does not work, pull the starter and take it in to be tested. Beyond those two things dont know. If its not either/both, then it should therietically turn over!
Jody Michielsen

75bobcatv6

Check the fuses in the fuse panel as well make sure they are all good

bigmo1985

the battery is good just put a new one in it and didn't even think bout turning the motor by hand but it has only sat for 3 months before that was a daily driver. Any idea what size nut is on the crank

Reeves1

Check the battery cable from the battery to the starter for any rub through areas. Might be a direct short ?

Also check to make sure the battery posts are clean and tight.

Check the voltage of the battery. Charging OK ?

dave1957

Try turning the motor over by a hand it might be frozen
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75bobcatv6

have you Replaced or Charged the battery? sounds like that might be the problem

bigmo1985

I just bought a 80 wagon i don't know which trim it is all i know is that it has a 2.3L and it's an automatic, So i got it to the shop yesterday and when I go to crank it, it does nothing, the lights on the dash don't even go out they just dim. I tried to short out the starter solenoid and even when I did that it didn't do anything it made one good click noise and that's it but when i turn the key i can't get anything. This is my first ford product so i need as much help as i can get.

Thanks in advance