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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Project Shur'tug'al [AKA 75 Pinto street toy]

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hellfirejim

Thanks all I appreciate the thoughts....  It is snowing......  again!!!

That old F2 has moved to the top of the list to get the front end wiring done before spring.  Then at that point it becomes a driver only and I can get back to working on the Pinto.  In case you are wondering, a friend who has a body shop offered the space to work on it this winter.  Haven't been able to do much but I am getting there.

it's job will be the stress reliever from the Pinto...  LOL

jim
It's a good day to be alive!
PCCA Pinto Number #385


71pintoracer

Hey Jim, good to hear from you, been away for a while so I'm catching up on old posts! Love the ol' F2!!  :evil:
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

r4pinto

Thanks for the update Jim

I am sure everyone agrees with me when I say we are all glad to hear you're still kickin. You will beat this, as you have a great attitude & that is a majority of recovery. Here's hoping things keep going well & you're able to get back to the project noce it warms up
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

Quote from: hellfirejim on January 21, 2011, 10:30:39 AM
Hi all. I just wanted to let you know that I am alive.  Been going through more chemo for the last 3 months and have been away from it all.  As some of you know I work outside so it hasn't really changed much except it is minus 4 right now with a wind chill of minus 25 degrees.

The Pinto is all covered and awaiting spring as I am too.

take care
jim

     And if you're as smart as I think you are, you'll STAY covered!

     Glad to know you are still kickin'.  Hang in there, Spring is just around the corner!

     Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

hellfirejim

Hi all. I just wanted to let you know that I am alive.  Been going through more chemo for the last 3 months and have been away from it all.  As some of you know I work outside so it hasn't really changed much except it is minus 4 right now with a wind chill of minus 25 degrees.

The Pinto is all covered and awaiting spring as I am too.

take care
jim
It's a good day to be alive!
PCCA Pinto Number #385


dga57

Interesting... I wouldn't have thought a truck as beefy as a 1950 Ford F2 would fit on a Chevy S-10 chassis.  Looks like it would be a fun vehicle to drive and be seen in!  Enjoy!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

hellfirejim

Well it is that time again as I just put the Pinto up on stands and covered for the winter.  Seems like I spun my wheels alot this year and didn't get much done.  Like I said there is always next year.

Just a teaser and NOT a Pinto but something i just picked up.  it is a 1950 Ford F2 [3/4 ton] pickup that is mounted on a 1986 S-10 chassis that has had a V8 conversion.  Absolutely a ball to drive.  it's main purpose in life besides putting a smile on my face is to drive it.  Nothing fancy just a driver.  I drove it back 175 miles when i bought it.  Got lots of edges which is all the better as i can then make it mine.



Now to tie it back into the Pinto, I can be driving the truck while i work on the Pinto so i won't get frustrated when i am working.  But you thought I couldn't tie it back together with the Pinto.   :drunk:

peace
jim
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PCCA Pinto Number #385


hellfirejim

Agreed, I am pretty sure that will happen with the gears and I will return them as soon as my world slows down a little.  However the real issues is the cost of R&R the rear gears twice has killed the budget for this year.  I am real close to putting it up for the winter.  maye even next weekend. 

Such is how it goes sometimes, there is alwyas next year........ :-\

peace
jim
It's a good day to be alive!
PCCA Pinto Number #385


Pinto5.0

If your mechanic is a stand up guy he should go through the gears again for free. I had a set of gears in my Duster that had a rythem to 'em for years. Some gears are just a little off but they will last forever.
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'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

dga57

Quote from: hellfirejim on October 11, 2010, 06:51:01 AM
I guess progress is not always forward....


Ain't that the truth?!?!?

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

hellfirejim

Well just to prove the old adge that nothing is as easy as it looks.  i had the rear center section for my 8" done professionally and we finally got to put it in.  I thought it was going to be a slam dunk but no.  when we road tested the car there is a rythmic sound in the rear.  We think it is the spider gears, but not sure.  so out comes the new rear gear and in goes the old gear.  what  waste of money i don't have.  I will take the rear back to the people who did it and we shall see what happens.

I guess progress is not always forward....

peace

jim
It's a good day to be alive!
PCCA Pinto Number #385


dga57

Jim,

Welcome back from vacation (hope you had a great time) and congratulations on the blood test results.  That is cause for celebration!!!

Sorry I don't have the tool you need.  If I did, you'd be welcome to borrow it.  Maybe someone here will be able to help you out.  Hope so anyway.

Take care!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

hellfirejim

Vacation was great and of course too short.  I also got some more good news on the health front.  My blood test for liver functions came back normal.  Why is this good news?  Because in all the years they have been doing this NOBODY has ever come back with a normal test, they are all elevated.  Life is good.

Ok to Pinto stuff.  I need an installation tool for a 5/16th nutsert.  Anybody got any ideas?????  I need to install the nutserts for the installation of the fuel cell.  The tools I have found were a hundred dollars and I need to do 4 nutserts.... Anybody have one I can borrow????

OBTW: I sold my other project 94 ranger to concentrate soley on the pinto to get it done....

peace
jim
It's a good day to be alive!
PCCA Pinto Number #385


dga57

Jim,
Glad to hear the treatments are working.  How encouraging!  Enjoy your vacation trip!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Pinto5.0

Quote from: hellfirejim on September 21, 2010, 09:09:56 AMAbout me.  The Doc was really happy with the results so far.  The scans show that the cells are in necrois [sp] which means they are dieing.  What is important is that this usually shows at about 60 days out no 30 days out.  so they are happy and my blood test for cancer activity fell in half.  so life os pretty good.

peace
jim

With news like that life is very good I'd have to say.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

hellfirejim

Update on the Pinto and me

First the Pinto.  I found the nutserts but now i need to go buy an installation tool.  the are really proud of them.  Close to $100.  It seems that when you get about 1/4 inch they get exspensive.  of course i find this out after making everthing 5/16 size..... :mad:
Work stops on the Pinto until next week as it is time for a small vacation to Houston for a few days.  Be back working on it next week.

About me.  The Doc was really happy with the results so far.  The scans show that the cells are in necrois [sp] which means they are dieing.  What is important is that this usually shows at about 60 days out no 30 days out.  so they are happy and my blood test for cancer activity fell in half.  so life os pretty good.

peace
jim
It's a good day to be alive!
PCCA Pinto Number #385


dga57

Quote from: hellfirejim on September 07, 2010, 06:06:09 AM


     One even said they didn't have it even though they admitted they didn't know what i was talking about.  :showback:


Hey... at least YOU know what you're talking about, and that's what counts!  Hang in there, Jim!!!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

hellfirejim

Well it is good news and not so good news.  I have nearly completed the suport for the new fuell cell.  I have all the pieces made and even got a couple of spot welds done.  So all i need is to "clean" them up and paint them.  I also scored some remmants of vinyl to use as a padding and metal to metal insulator for about $4.   :lol:

now for the frustrating news.  I was simply going to bolt the support frame in but i realized that some of the bolts are not accessable from the back side due to crossmembers.  Simple solution is to use nut-certs in the sheet metal and just bolt it together.  I went all over town to try and fine them.  Most looked at me like i had ten heads.  One even said they didn't have it even though they admitted they didn't know what i was talking about.  :showback:

So I have one more stop before doc appointment and then on to the internet to see if i can find what I need.  it is a 5/16 thread nutcert.

Still the good news is that the major fabrication is done and now once the nut-certs are in play it will be a matter of cleaning and bolting together.  Also a major will be to remove the old gas tank and all the associated crap and have a clean installation.


peace
jim
It's a good day to be alive!
PCCA Pinto Number #385


dga57

Quote from: hellfirejim on August 30, 2010, 05:59:23 AM
Sorry guys but I tried but it was simply not going to happen.  A combination of just to hot and a beatup body said no.  So now i wait till probably friday due to heat and then rain.  Really want to get this done......getting close.

peace
jim

You're smart to stay out of the heat - it isn't worth it.  Friday will be here before you know it!  Here's wishing you a great week!
Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

hellfirejim

Sorry guys but I tried but it was simply not going to happen.  A combination of just to hot and a beatup body said no.  So now i wait till probably friday due to heat and then rain.  Really want to get this done......getting close.

peace
jim
It's a good day to be alive!
PCCA Pinto Number #385


hellfirejim

Just a short note.  I worked on making the bridge fuel cell supports today.  Was a cross between fabrication and blacksmithing.  One is ready and the second one is close.  I hope to have it ready tomorrow in the am.  The final step is the vertical supprts but that should be fairly easy deal.  This whole deal is going to setup so it can be unbolted and removed if it was ever wanted to be returned back to stock.  Can't think of a single reason for it to be stock but you never know.

Hopefully I will be able to get it done tomorrow, the old body just ain't what it used to be but I am trying.

peace
jim
It's a good day to be alive!
PCCA Pinto Number #385


hellfirejim

Back in the saddle again and working on the Pinto though at a very reduced pace.   This radiation stuff really kills all your momentum.

As last noted I had cut out the corners on the 16 gauge base plate and then took it up my buddy's shop where he cut out the sump hole.  We discussed it and we came to the conclusion that the hole would be too tight around the sump and just recut it a "tad" large.  Scientific measurement.... :read:

I brought it home and placed 4 stacks of car mags to get the base plate up enough and I dropped in the fuel cell.  I then placed the hold down clamps in place and marked where i needed to drill the holes for the bolts.  I drilled the holes {thank the person who invented the uni-bit] and went and got bolts, lock washers, regular washers and nuts.  We welded the washers and nuts to the underside of the base plate.  Reason for the regular washers was to spread out the pulling load from the clamps.  This is what you see in the first picture.



The next step is to create and place under the base plate are two bridge supports just to be sure that there is no movement while going down the road.  All of this is fitted into the spare tire well.

This pickture just shows the fuel cell sitting in place. 



Got a lot more to do but you get the picture.  Also for those of you concerned with the cell just sitting there, it will be surrounded by a steel cage and aluminum sheet sealing it from the passenger compartment and adding another level of protection.

peace
jim
It's a good day to be alive!
PCCA Pinto Number #385


r4pinto

Jim,

glad to hear the procedure is going well. We're all pulling for ya!
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

hellfirejim

Just a quick note to let you know that the procedure went well.  I am having to take a few days  off just to get back to ground zero but all in all it is doable.  it is killing me not to be able to work on getting the fuel cell in but it will come.
peace
jim
It's a good day to be alive!
PCCA Pinto Number #385


r4pinto

Jim,

Great news on the Pinto, but even greater news on the chemo. We're all pullin for ya man!
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

Jim,

Glad to hear you are working on the Pinto again!

Am especially happy to hear the health-related good news.  Hang in there and NEVER give up!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

hellfirejim

Posts in two parts today.  First the Pinto stuff for those who are not interested in the second part and that is totally cool.

I have  decided that I HAVE to get the fuel cell done before anything else.  So I re-started the work on it.  I have the piece of sheet metal cut out in the basic shape and have just started to get it ready.  I have notched out where it fits around the back pass roll bar support.  Since i allready had made a template for the fuel cell I put it into place and simply painted where the hole is for the sump to fit through.  I have the four corners drilled and unibit holed so the next step is to cut out the whole where the tank sump goes.  i will get it tack welded to start with and then I will cut the pinto flooring for the lines to pass through.  However I will have to wait till I can get the new license plate stickers.  just came due at the wrong time. :reek:

The second part is good news and that is the radition is on its way and I will get my next [and some say final] treatment on thursday late afternoon.  Since I won't be transportable until after 9pm they said i will just stay overnight and go home in the morning.  Then the maddening part is I will have to wait a month for the radiation to do it's stuff and then get a scan to check it out and a visit to the doc to see what we are going to do next.  The best part is I have been off general chemo since march and that helps reduce the side effects.  I don't know what the side effects will be but it surely can't be anyworse than last time and in fact they said it should be a lot easier.

This is a very good thing.  How much of a good thing we shall see but as long as the good lord is willing to keep going so will I.  More news as it happens.


peace  ;)
jim
It's a good day to be alive!
PCCA Pinto Number #385


r4pinto

Jim, I have been there many times over.

I agree with you just getting something small. It's amazing that something as simple as sunvisors & ebrake cover can be so fulfilling.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

Quote from: hellfirejim on August 01, 2010, 12:08:10 PM
today I have to follow my own advice.  I really didn't want to work on the car this weekend.  it was just one of those weekends but as I have said before that even if you don't really want to work on it, try and do something even if it is small.  So today I installed the new [to me] black sunvisors aloong with a new [to me] emergency brake cover.  not much as i said but at least i got it done and off the list.


peace
jim

Progress is progress, great or small!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

hellfirejim

today I have to follow my own advice.  I really didn't want to work on the car this weekend.  it was just one of those weekends but as I have said before that even if you don't really want to work on it, try and do something even if it is small.  So today I installed the new [to me] black sunvisors aloong with a new [to me] emergency brake cover.  not much as i said but at least i got it done and off the list.


peace
jim
It's a good day to be alive!
PCCA Pinto Number #385