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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

White Squire wagon on e-bay

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Wittsend

Years ago I had a Volvo 544 (looks like a 46 Ford) for sale. A guy called about it, but wasn't interested given the honest condition I presented.  Eventually I found a buyer.  Turns out this "buyer" re-listed it for sale before he even completed the transaction with me.  To that end he was still loading it on the dolly (that I insisted be part of the sale given the condition) when a perspective buyer was waiting at his place.

How do I know this? Because the same guy who turned down the purchase based on my presentation was the same guy waiting for the car to arrive.  My description basically presented a near basket case (5-6 car).  This "intermediate buyer" had the car advertised as a 2-3 car. Strange how that can happen simply by a 20 minute tow.

The perspective buyer was PO-ed because the guy said, "he could drive it home."  That would be the same car I insisted 20 minutes prior be towed away on a dolly. Needless to say the PO-ed guy contacted me to warn me of what was up.

Also of late I bought a '64 Sudebaker Daytona off Ebay.  I'm wise enough to know what to expect, but the end result was far worse than presented.  The ad said, "it goes down the road nicely."  OK, I wasn't exactly buying that, but:

1. The windshield was cracked (didn't show in the pictures - I know, I should have asked).

2. They were pouring gas into the carburetor to start it.

3. Once it fired it was obvious the whole exhaust was missing from the starter motor back.

4. The guy drives it out to my borrowed enclosed trailer, gets out and say, "there's no brakes."

5. I get it in the trailer (by the way reverse - the brakes in my case - on the Studebaker are where "low" normally is)

6. Anti freeze is gushing out of the motor.

7. Then they didn't have the pink slip but said it would be mailed in two days - 11 days later I finally got it.

8. It was listed as "no rust," and while not too bad in total area, it was extensive in its particular locations.

That said, for a 46 year old car it has good bones. A $1.00 freeze plug fixed the leak. A small amount of fluid got the brakes working.  The exhaust I was going to upgrade anyway. And surprise..., the guy actually had paid $56 on the registration a long time ago, but never completed the paperwork to get it off non-op. So, the $56 was applied to me for tax and transfer!!!

Ahhhh..., yea, "goes down the road nicely (in the trailer)."

Lastly my Pinto came from Ebay  - sort of. It was co-listed on Craig's list.  I offered the guy the asking price and he closed the Ebay sale.  I was expecting a low 3/high 4 car and got a mid 5 car.  With both cars once I got over the initial shock, I was "good with what I had to work with."  Just set expectation a few notches lower than expected and you should be mildly content.

Tom

dga57

Quote from: pintoman2.0 on September 12, 2010, 12:34:34 PM
This is why I am skeptical of buying anything I can't see first. If a picture can say a thousand words, in this case it can also HIDE a thousand words!

P

Well, I've purchased six automobiles (three Lincolns, one Cadillac, one Chrysler convertible, and my Pinto) on eBay and I can't really say I've run into any major problems.  On the other hand, this case clearly indicates that you can't always trust everything you see.  Based on the photos, I would buy that Squire.

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

78squirewagon

Quote from: Rear Ended on September 12, 2010, 01:04:06 PM
No kidding,that car looks worth the money.  What is wrong with the title, he has it listed as clear. (does he mean see through)and the flors, I will gladly ask the questions.

Ask and see if it's in HIS name and not mine. Unless he got a title printed the same day, he might be floating it because I was an idiot and did not have him sign it right in front of me.
As far as the floors go, I patched them with cheap sheet metal and screwed the panels down. I never sealed around them at all so chances are, they leak like a sive. The wood is original to the car and has been coated with  Back to Black or ?? to make it shiny. There's some nasty rust around the filler neck. I patched at least two holes (small ones) on the gas tank. The dash is cracked, seats are dry rotted/worn in the front and unless he replaced the AC, it's out of the car and not working. I know the fan motor was making a nasty noise when he got it. Also both front fenders have small dents on the top that pop in and out when you lean on them. Finally, the rear hatch seal is junk and leaks because it came out on my red wagon
1978 Squire wagon,red, 69000 and counting original miles

1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)

Norman Bagi

No kidding,that car looks worth the money.  What is wrong with the title, he has it listed as clear. (does he mean see through)and the flors, I will gladly ask the questions.

pintoman2.0

This is why I am skeptical of buying anything I can't see first. If a picture can say a thousand words, in this case it can also HIDE a thousand words!

P

dga57

The really scary part is that the photos make it look like a real steal at $1600!   :surprised:

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

r4pinto

Some people are total idiots. Like he actually thought you wouldn't have found out about it? What a moron. Sad thing is all you can do is warn people on here. It's a shame scum like that exist  :-\
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Cookieboystoys

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: 78squirewagon on September 10, 2010, 07:00:36 AM
http://contact.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll

wrong link? I don't see it listed and can not find it. Just the early '72 Pintony has listed and the '79 some were poking fun at.

Yours was a '78 w/V6 and red interior... right?
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

78squirewagon

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Pinto-Squire-1978-Ford-Pinto-Squire-Wagon-Factory-V6-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4cf1916fe8QQitemZ330470354920QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks

STAY AWAY!!!  This is my old white wagon and is not worth what the scum is asking. I sold it to him with a promise that he was going to get it back on the road and keep it as a summer driver. If I had known that he was going to give it a back alley repair and detail job and then turn around and ask almost four times what I sold it to him for, he would have never gotten the car.
He failed to mention that the gas tank has a JB Weld patch job in a couple of places and the rear brakes need replacing BAD
If some of you can maybe ask him about the floors and the title (make sure it's in his name), that would help me out.
1978 Squire wagon,red, 69000 and counting original miles

1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)