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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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flash041

I am sure they are worn too fred.Today i plastigaged the crank bearings.Not good.The two mains I checked were .002 and .003. the max being .0015.The rods were worse, even with the new bearings.it hardly even crushed the gage.So I think ill put it back together , put 20 50 oil in it and then pull it out for a complete rebuild this winter. It MUST be ready for the Stampede next year!
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1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

Fred Morgan

I vote cam bearings.  Fred    :)
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nothingtodo

I had a V6 with low oil pressure too. I replaced the pump with the engine still in the car (I wouldnt do that again!) and it didnt help a bit. Thinking it was cam bearings, I sold the car.

flash041

I put a gauge on to get readings.They are, 10 psi  in drive at idol 800 rpm. 35 psi at 3000 rpm and above 20 psi at 2000 rpm. The specs i got say 40 - 60 psi at 2000 rpm.Appears that my oil pressure is 1/2 what it should be.The last thing I was going to check the housing where the oil filter screws on to see if its partly plugged.Looks like ill have to take the exhaust manifold off to get to it.
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Fred Morgan

Dave if you use straight extension the torque stays the same.  Fred 
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flash041

the spec in 25lb.i was using an extension so i bumped it to 30
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78_starsky

Just curious,   what lbs/foot did you tighten the rod caps down to?

thanks

lencost

Quote from: flash041 on July 17, 2010, 01:37:18 PM
Got the rod bearings in and oil pressure is  better though not where it should be .The upper end is still a bit noisey. I think ill baby it for the rest of the summer , and this winter pull the engine and do a complete rebuild.
flash041 I would greatly appreciate it if when you do the rebuild you document it as well as you have the process that you have gone threw in this thread.
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flash041

Got the rod bearings in and oil pressure is  better though not where it should be .The upper end is still a bit noisey. I think ill baby it for the rest of the summer , and this winter pull the engine and do a complete rebuild.
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flash041

got the pan down again.I pulled one main , it looks good,but the rods are for sure loose.I pulled two and both were down to the copper.Ill get a set of rod bearings tomorrow and see what happens.
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flash041

It has a wix filter on it now and put in 10 40 oil as advised by a friend and no change.I am in process of dropping the pan again to look at the rod and main bearings.
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slowride

I'll stick my neck out and pass on a little info. If you have a FRAM filter on it you may want to put a quality brand on. I prefer Wix or Purolator. On certain engines a Fram will kill pressure at idle due to internal restriction and the bypass. I have had PH8A's on my 460's restrict oil pressure at idle as well as other engines. If you have a Fram on it, try changing it. Not a whole lot to lose at this point.

flash041

I talked to a good friend that works on a lot of Fords and he said it was most likley the main/rod bearings. I have located the bearings.Now I just have to pull the pan off again to see if they are bad.I should of checked them when I had the pan off eariler this week, but I though I found my problem with the dirty screen.
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DBSS1234

I have found, in small block v-8 Fords at least, a low oil pressure at idle is most often worn cam bearings. I always replace the cam bearings when freshening up a old motor.

flash041

Back to square one. Its no better.Still noisey still low oil pressure with new pump and clean oil pan and screen.Any ideas ????
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flash041

got the car back together ladt night by 1 am! Idled it last night and no light.Lifters still a little noisey, but mabe oil hasent worked its way through yet. I need to take it for a run today for a further test.
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flash041

probialy some from changing the intake some from years of sitting.Like I said the pan was also dented in at the botton so the screen was at or near the very bottom of the pan.
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71pintoracer

Yuk! Question, what is all that crap and where did it come from??
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

flash041

Yesterday i ordered a new oil pump.Today the wife was visiting with old friends so i thought id drop the pan .Here is what I found.Lots of crap in the bottom of the pan and in the pick up screen.Looks like I found the problem!The pump will be in Thursday and then ill put it back together.Also the pan was dented in so the pick up was right at the very bottom , where at the suuff was.It was not to bad at all to take apart about 2 1/2 hours.The pan gasket was leaking any way so it not such a bad thein to do.
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1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

Fred Morgan

Dave have 1 more pull oil press. send unit start engine then right away shut off to flush passage clean send unit reinstall start eng. see then.  Fred
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flash041

Back together no change , looks like ill be droping the oil pan and put in a new pump unless any one else has any other ideas.
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1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

flash041

I just pulled the dist and this time the shaft for the oil pump was stuck to it and came out.Ill try putting it back in. Does any one know if it needs the flex washer on it.iam sure its in the the oil pan now
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flash041

yea i think your right Fred, just dreding pulling the pan to put in a new pump, but I may have to.One last thing I an going to do is pull the distributor again.When I first pulled it a clump of sludge from the outside of the enginge fell in the hole.I got some of it out, mabe some of it is blocking the oil passage there.I had great pressure before and mabe its partly blocked there. Ill clean the hole again and blow it out good and hope for the best.
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1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

Fred Morgan

Dave that would be you have oil pressure or you dont have any.   Fred   :)
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flash041

ive been thinking about and wondering if the shaft that drives the pump might of pulled out and not seated all the way,Other than posible blockage or stuck relief valve that the only oil pressure related thing i touched.
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flash041

I put in a quart of rislone to see if that helps.I am not confident though.I will more that likley have to put in an oil pump.Ill give the rislone a couple of days to soak , and if not any better then pull the pump.
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flash041

In the book that I have says the relief valve is in the pump.So Ill have to replace the pump un less any one knows of a good product that I can put in to free it up.
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flash041

I know there is no pressureised oil in the intake.Like i said I think some sludge or gasket materal from changing the gasket is sticking or blocking the relief valve or oil passage.The repair manual that I have says to clean the relief valve , but does not say where it is.I assume its in the oil filter housing, but have not found any thing that says where it is.
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lencost

As far as I know there is no pressurized oil in the intake manifold of a FORD 2.8L V6. The attachment bellow is in a FORD factory manual. I would PM Pintopower and pick his brain.
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flash041

I pulled and re set the distributor still the same. Does any one know where the relive valve is?Seem like that mabe be stuck probilay with some gasket materal .I know the pressure is low because the valvetrain is nosier that before.
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