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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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beegle55

That lighter is bad butt. Got to love eBay.

      -beegle55
2005 Jeep GC 5.7 HEMI
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1991 Ford Mustang GT
1988 Ford Mustang
1980 Ford Pinto Cruising- Mint, Fully documented
1979 Ford Pinto Trunk- 2.3L 4 speed
1978 Ford Pinto HB- 302 drag car
1976 Ford Pinto Runabout- 40,000 mi, V6
1972 Ford Maverick Grabber (real)
1970 Ford Mustang 302

78squirewagon

Quote from: phils toys on June 29, 2010, 01:02:58 PM
most reacently i picked up a pinto watch  (non kicking horse)in the case with large leather band  and a zippo lighter

I have two of the non kicking horse and one (still new in the box) of the kicking horse. All three came from E-Bay and at a REALLY good price. I am telling you the way to go is www.esnipe.com   ;D
1978 Squire wagon,red, 69000 and counting original miles

1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)

dave1987

Wouldn't it be interesting if ebay had a ratio for purchases versus items sold? I'm curious how much I have spent on ebay myself....Been using it for ten years now! Used my dad's account until I was 15 and got my own account!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dga57

Quote from: blupinto on June 29, 2010, 09:25:01 PM
I refuse to add up my spendings on ebay... I don't want a stroke! :lol:

I hear you on that!  :lol:  I've bought three Lincolns, one Cadillac, one Chrysler Sebring convertible, and one Pinto on eBay... not to mention parts, collectibles, brochures, etc. for each of the above.  Then add in the books, movies, jewelry, models, musical instuments, clothing, appliances, etc., etc., etc.!  If I had never heard about eBay, I could probably afford to retire today! :-\

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blupinto

I refuse to add up my spendings on ebay... I don't want a stroke! :lol:
One can never have too many Pintos!

Pinto5.0

There isnt enough space for me to list my ebay purchases over the last 7 or 8 years. I havent bought any cars off ebay but I bought the parts to build 4 cars & 3 dunebuggies. Probably 50K or more if I added it all up....
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

blupinto

OMG!!! I've spent SOOOO much at ebay... I just won a Hartland Plastics General Lee rider (no not the car!) lol. and a Hartland Horses And Dogs book. The last Pinto-related item I won was a 1971 dealer brochure (from Denmark!) that has the cut-out Pinto car. I'm forever looking for my Holy Grail of Pinto-Breyer items... ;D  Call it evilbay if you will... we all have our vices... ::)
One can never have too many Pintos!

beicholz

I got my Pinto itself on EBAY...at an unbelievably good price (went to see and drive it first before bidding).
1973 Pinto Squire, 59K Miles, 2.0, Auto P/B, A/C
1972 VW Karmann Ghia Convert. (Red/Black), 2K Miles on restoration, One Owner
1972 Chevy Vega (virtual owner - in the junkyard)
2011 Subaru Outback 4WD
1 Yam. Golf Cart: Our "car" on Catalina Island

pintogirl

I like the lighter!!! Too cool!!

I haven't been on ebay lately! Trying to save money! LOL
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

phils toys

most reacently i picked up a pinto watch  (non kicking horse)in the case with large leather band  and a zippo lighter
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

blupinto

My first ebay auction victory was for a Breyer model horse (I have about 500!) and the seller was in Oceanside! So I was able to pick the horse up about 4 miles from my home.  Ebay evil? Maybe I've been lucky, but I love ebay. Too bad money's tight. There was a GORGEOUS!!! '72 Pinto Squire wagon in Maine I would've given a body part for.  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

I've bought all sorts of things off eBay, including five automobiles, of which my Pinto was one!  As far as Pinto-related stuff, I've bought a dash cap, trim rings, NOS parking lots, a walnut shifter knob, NOS bodyside molding, wheel lip moldings, a '72 sales brochure, the same owner's guide to maintenance that Becky described, a Pinto t-shirt, a book of '72 Pinto matches, a drinking glass, key chain, and one of the watches with the kicking Pinto which is still in working condition and has its original band.  My most recent non-Pinto-related purchases include a 42 inch flat panel TV, a cordless phone, a wallet, a Hummer cap as a Christmas gift, and wheel lip moldings for a Ford Ranger - also a Christmas gift.  Gee... I think I need to stay OFF eBay!!!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Wittsend

I got my Pinto off Ebay. Well..., sort of.  It was Co-Listed on Craig's list also.  So, I didn't feel too bad about "making an offer."  The seller was a flight attendant. With me in So. Cal. and he 30,000 feet over Washington state we struck a deal. Well..., some deal, I offered the asking Craig's List price.

Anyway, the car was in San Francisco about two blocks from where my wife spent her teenage years.  The seller needed to move the car quickly.  When shipping estimates got out of hand I opted to fly up and bring the car back.  To expidite the process he sent me a FREE South West Buddy Pass.  I Flew up to my brother's in Sacramento and he drove me to S.F. to rent the truck/trailer and bring it home.

I got my '73 Valiant off Ebay too. I got my 63 Rambler out of the Auto Seller, my '61 Corvair station wagon (Free) out of the Penny Saver and my '65 Sunbeam Tiger out of the Recycler.  I've still got them all - including two ('91 Mazda 323  - my daily driver and '73 Datsun 510) that were given to me.
Tom

78squirewagon

Quote from: 75bobcatv6 on January 05, 2010, 04:34:35 PM
Computer parts is all i get off ebay. I have not had the time to bid war with someone over parts lol.

OK, so I will give my secret away

www.esnipe.com      Enough said   ;D
1978 Squire wagon,red, 69000 and counting original miles

1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)

jwise12345

Quote from: slowride on January 04, 2010, 03:12:30 PM
I saw an auction for a '72 NOS grille and assumed it was the same as my '74. I found out after I won it that they are different. When it arrived I found that the seller didn't know the difference either as it was actually FOR a '74. An NOS grille for under $100..... I can't complain. :amazed:

I found a grill for my '74 at a junkyard near me. I thought i did pretty good as there was nothing wrong with it and it only cost 40 bucks!

As for ebay, let me think... i think the last thing i got was a timing cover for my 2.0

75bobcatv6

Computer parts is all i get off ebay. I have not had the time to bid war with someone over parts lol.

phils toys

most reasently  2 repair manules for  the fiero
but in the past
75-76 for services manules
77 ford services manule
clymer, haynes, chilton, peterson and a saturday mechanichs pinto manules
76 electrical manule
several pinto key tools ( still need more special  project)
and  the list can go on
phil
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

popbumper

Geeze - EBAY - it's >evil<  :hypno:. I have purchased:

Shop manuals
NOS power brake booster
Underdash accessory tray
NOS radio speaker
Battery tray
Chrome headlight bezels
Car cover

...and probably a few more things I can't recall at the moment.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

blupinto

I was such a shameless tomboy (I guess I still am, though I'm a little more girly now!) lol.  I played with those plastic cars and my Mom despaired at what she had raised. I had two or three Fox-body Mustangs (still have one that, er, survived but has bowed pillars and a really bad paint job!) and one Fox-body Capri as well as an assortment of '65 era Mustang Fastbacks (the body style, not the toys themselves!) and one Easter Mom relented and I found a Mustang II Fastback in my Easter basket along with the other goodies the Easter Bunny left me.  I had to modify the cars so my Bo and Luke Duke (Daisy too) could drive them! Oh, the fun I had and "miles" I drove! Having a Pinto would've been pure nirvana- Pintos and Dukes of Hazzard! I might've died of joy.  :D
One can never have too many Pintos!

78squirewagon

Oh! There's that Wannabe-General Lee Pinto Runabout toy I would've killed for as a child...


A friend of mine got me one of those at a rummage sale for 1.oo and people love it  ;D
1978 Squire wagon,red, 69000 and counting original miles

1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)

blupinto

Ahhh, my favorite shopping destination...ebay!

         I got a Haynes '75-80 (brand new condition) repair manual, '71 Pinto repair book (black with the lil' pinto horses on the cover), a '74 owners manual, some Mustang II ('74) paraphanelia (owners manual, ads, dealer brocures), a '73 and '74 Pinto dealer brochures, a key fob like the ones you could get anywhere back in the day, a brand-new condition Pinto emblem (red, white and blue not faded and were factory-colored not repainted), my red My Pony Goes (sic) Pinto Fast shirt, ... the list goes on but I'm stumped for more on my list. Oh! There's that Wannabe-General Lee Pinto Runabout toy I would've killed for as a child... ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

slowride

I saw an auction for a '72 NOS grille and assumed it was the same as my '74. I found out after I won it that they are different. When it arrived I found that the seller didn't know the difference either as it was actually FOR a '74. An NOS grille for under $100..... I can't complain. :amazed:

78squirewagon

I just scored 30 of the poker chips for less than 25.oo plus shipping. I e-mailed the person selling them to see if I could buy what he had left  ;D

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-1971-Ford-Pinto-Intro-Poker-chips_W0QQitemZ390137102715QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5ad5fbc17b

1978 Squire wagon,red, 69000 and counting original miles

1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)

71hotrodpinto

Ohh yah looove the ebay.
Pretty much built my whole car from ebay. Thats one of the reasons it took me so long! That said im an ebay nut and will always try to score a deal if i need something that is on ebay.
I love ebay!
LOL


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'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

78squirewagon

I could have a list of at least a couple of hundred items but as of recent, I picked up 30 (thirty) of the dealer post cards of the 78 Squire wagons and a couple of poker chips that have the Pinto logo on them. Of course there is both of the watches (on that kicks to the seconds and the other that doesnt)  Also, I have at least 30 model cars in varios forms. So, if all of a sudden you get sniped on something unusual, ask me about it  :lol:
1978 Squire wagon,red, 69000 and counting original miles

1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)

Norman Bagi

I got a sweet set of original 1970 Boss 302 valve covers for my Boss Pinto.  :happy_bday: They cost alot, but they will be the finishing touch when I get around to putting them on later this month.. i would put them on sooner, but got other things to accomplish in the engine bay first.

blupinto

...and I thought Davy Crockett died at the Alamo in 1836...  ::)
One can never have too many Pintos!

smallfryefarm

I could go on for hours here. It all started with my pinto which was my first ebay purchase. Then the maddness started shortly after that. I bought so much stuff while building my car that i got banned from ebay.   :o Not from ebay they were glad to have me but from the ole lady :reek:  Every time the bills came in she would say who is this pay pal person?  Oh well thanks kim for bringing up all these painfull memorys for me.  :'(  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Smallfryefarms Horsepower Ranch

pintogirl

LOL Sounds like a comercial! LOL

I thought it would be fun to start a thread about neat things we all get on ebay!!

My latest thing that I just got, I think is pretty neat!! It's a post card from a dealer that was sent to a customer back in 1972!!



Look, they didn't use zip codes then!!




So, what have you gotten on ebay lately?
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA