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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Quick weight questions

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Srt

the sticker shows weight / loading limits and its' proper distribution front & rear.  The sticker doesn't show actual vehicle weight.

my '71 back in '71 or '72 was stripped to the bare bones with only the 2 stock (thin) front buckets, no back seat, no carpet, no sound deadener any where and lexan windows all around except the windshield with a 4 pt autopower bar weighed in at a bit less than 1800 on the truck stop scales. the scales they used were similar to what's in maps pic and were legal(calibrated properly and all that)

the link that map351 included in his original post is, i think, pretty accurate of stock vehicle weight
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

69GT

  I scaled my 72 2.0 4-speed trunk model. it weighed 2240 with almost a full tank and the spare and jack in it. :)

dholvrsn

I'm wondering if some of that isn't heresay information or if somebody overlooked that the engines are "dressed" differenty. A bare or nearly bare small block Ford with barely an alternator hanging off from it or less versus a "full dress" Merkur 2.3 turbo with the power steering and AC pumps plus brackets.
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Quote from: 80bobcat on August 27, 2009, 11:37:54 AM
Before I put the turbo in my bobcat I researched my various engine options.. I remember reading that the 2.3 4cyl. was only 50lbs lighter than a 302ci and I think that it wieghs in at 450lbs so that would put the 2.3 at around 400lbs and like the previous post I thought I read it somehwere on the site? Memories fade as you age some for the better some not.... ;D

Heres a link.....418lbs

See, its lists like those that i had a problem with. HOW... exactly can that little thing weigh that much? I dont buy it, not for a second. A friend ov mine says he can lift one off the floor by himself (if only to slide something underneath, but still). He is strong for a lil' guy (180lbs haha), but an awkward 400+lb deadlift...?? He works out and can only deadlift 315lbs when its got a barbell attached...

Does the thing not have water jackets? Is it solid iron? A Cobra DOHC (all aluminum) 4.6L V8 weighs roughly 425lbs. Sure, its aluminum, but its also 7 feet wide and has all the same stuff inside a 4cyl has (steel crank, rods, pistons, FOUR cams, etc.). A Dodge 225 slant six weighs roughly 475lbs, and its way bigger than a 2.3 dimensionally, and not exactly a delicate engine when it comes to internal parts.

About the only 'evidence' to the contrary is that i've talked to several V8 Pinto guys with SB Fords that say their Pinto didn't really lose much handling when the V8 was installed. Going from a 200lb, hell, even 300lb 2.3 to a 450lb 302 would definitely change the way a car handles...

Something aint right...

map351

My 73 with a 2.3 turbo big front kooler,T-5,9" 4 point bar, Glass front fenders tips the scale at 2368lb..

73 2.3Turbo Pinto
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75bobcatv6

the GVWR on mine is 2965. I didnt look to see front or rear distribution.

80bobcat

Look Officer..it`s a Pinto would YOU stop short?

80bobcat

Before I put the turbo in my bobcat I researched my various engine options.. I remember reading that the 2.3 4cyl. was only 50lbs lighter than a 302ci and I think that it wieghs in at 450lbs so that would put the 2.3 at around 400lbs and like the previous post I thought I read it somehwere on the site? Memories fade as you age some for the better some not.... ;D
Look Officer..it`s a Pinto would YOU stop short?

map351

73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
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dick1172762

Just weighted my 80 Pony with air and its 2375 with out driver and 1/2 tank of gas. 100% stock too.
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Quote from: 75bobcatv6 on August 26, 2009, 01:09:54 PM
chris i am going to look at my sticker on m v6 wagon today once home. ill post its eight. I was going by what researching it on the web told me. i will let you know what i find
sence it was that simple 76 bobcat wagon with ac gvw 3932 front 1842 rear 2140
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75bobcatv6

chris i am going to look at my sticker on m v6 wagon today once home. ill post its eight. I was going by what researching it on the web told me. i will let you know what i find

78txpony

If I could find my sales lit, I could tell ya...
I DO know my pony sedan weighs 2600lbs NOT counting me.  Years ago I had it on the scales at a rock and gravel yard about 10 times.  Each time I drove out, the weight was 3400+!   :o
That made the guys pulling tiny trailers with their luxo suvs look rather silly.  
A truck?  I don't need no stinkin' truck! (nor a 400/mo payment either!)

I imagine the wagon is about 2800-2900lbs.
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popbumper

Thanks guys. Getting ready to transport the car and trying to figure up weight. Shop that the car is going to also has a light hoist - I think it will handle the gruesome weight of the 4 cylinder.  :P

Can't wait to get there, I am going to get a LOT done this Fall with the car being stored indoors. Should be a different vehicle when it emerges.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

dga57

Chris,

I have no idea on the engine weight, but curb weight for a 1976 Pinto Wagon with 4 cyl. is 2635 pounds according to Consumer Guide's Encyclopedia of American Cars From 1930.  Hope this helps.

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

hellfirejim

Depending on the car, the weight should be somewhere between 2500 and 2800. 

When I picked up my long block, two guys just picked it up so it can't be that heavy.  I don't have an acurate number but most probably in the 200s some where.
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My stripped-out 76 'MPG' trunk 4spd car weighs an accurate 2400lbs empty. The MPG's are lighter than regular Pintos, and the wagon adds a bunch. It is NOT 2300. More like 2600-2800 i'm guessing...??

Someone here has a VERY comprehensive list ov EVERY Pinto model and variant ever made. That will answer your question. Now, where the hell DID i see that...??

I'd also like to know what a 2.3 weighs. I tried to figure that out before, and i got nowhere. Depending on who you ask its anywhere from a couple hundred pounds to near 500...

75bobcatv6

2000 to 2300 lbs is what i could find on the web. Im pretty sure its closer to the 2300 mark for the wagons.

popbumper

Anyone know the approximate weights of:

1) Pinto wagon with 4 cyl motor? It's a '76, standard wagon.
2) 4 cylinder 2.3L motor by itself?

Thanks!

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08