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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Pintos invited to the Concours d'LeMons

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skunky56

Wow what a cool show! That was fun fun fun 9 Pintos showed up Mike,s Boss won the grand award Alberto and Thomas won with their Fiats and a wonderful time was had by all untill next year......What a great mix of cars and people... ;D
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Pintopower

So I got a call from a buddy of mine who was eating at a place in Monterey. His Fiat Abarth will be at pebble beach. He was shocked when as he was sipping his brandy and reading the Monterey Herald, noticed the article on Concours d'Lemons and whose car was mentioned in it? MINE! They talk about my Pangra in the article!  :D

http://www.montereyherald.com/local/ci_13029579?nclick_check=1
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

75bobcatv6

Quote from: Choptop on August 09, 2009, 02:16:35 PM
and no one is going to be "laughing" at the cars, nor do I think anyone that shows up as a spectator will be a "snob". The crowd that will be there will be the ones that want to have a little fun with cars shows again, not the deadly serious tension filled air at the Pebble Beach Millionaires Car club.

Remember the owner of the KV1 thinks his car is great too.. but ya'll would "laugh" at it.

its fun and nothing more.

Pintos will be well represented and the crowd will get an education while they are at it. I'm wiling to bet 99% of the spectators will have never heard of a Pangra or a Boss Pinto. There will be several at the show, along with informational signs detailing the history of the machines.

much better explained choptop. if i could be there I sure as hell would be

blupinto

I wish it were in the cards for me to go. I do like the little cars this show is highlighting. My next door neighbor in the early '70s had a blue Gremlin and I remember riding in the back of it. The last two (only two) car shows I've been to had not one Mustang II, another car I love. I love the other Mustangs but they really are a dime a dozen at car shows. It's nice to put the focus on the unsung heroes of the road.  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

Choptop

and no one is going to be "laughing" at the cars, nor do I think anyone that shows up as a spectator will be a "snob". The crowd that will be there will be the ones that want to have a little fun with cars shows again, not the deadly serious tension filled air at the Pebble Beach Millionaires Car club.

Remember the owner of the KV1 thinks his car is great too.. but ya'll would "laugh" at it.

its fun and nothing more.

Pintos will be well represented and the crowd will get an education while they are at it. I'm wiling to bet 99% of the spectators will have never heard of a Pangra or a Boss Pinto. There will be several at the show, along with informational signs detailing the history of the machines.

Choptop

First off... the show isnt designed or intended to "make fun" of the cars involved. Its basically a send up of the Pebble Beach Concours, which over the years has become WAY to serious. The judging results can alter a cars value by hundreds of thousands of dollars. This show deflates a little bit of that stuffiness. It also give cars that would otherwise not have a venue during the Monterey Auto Week a place to shine in front of one of the largest gatherings of automotive enthusiast in the world.

Are some of the cars on display awful? Absolutely.
ARe some of them mundane? Yep
oddball? Yep.

And specifically:
Are Pintos awful? No
ARe they mundane? Yep, they certainly are not exotic. They were a production car
Are the oddball? Nope.

So the pinto does fit. No insult at all.


the point to those worlds are the cars that will be on display are NOT considered the best examples of what the auto world can do, nor are they "exotic" and frankly some of them make you scratch your head and say, "what were they thinking?".

In short its a show for those that want to show their cars to a crowd that wouldnt otherwise see them, and for those that have a sense of humor about their cars. Others need not apply.  ;D

That being said, I own and AMC Pacer and a Corvair. Are they great cars? I think so. I also know that they are underappreicated by the automotive world. Dont forget when you are saying "Pintos are great"
here you are preaching to the choir. Most people havent seen a Pinto in 20 years, and thats the point of the show.


I've own and raced a raced Pintos and Mustang IIs in the past. Great cars. But to deny that there is a public stigma about them, deserved or not, is to just not be truthful with ones self. For that reason there will be a fire extinguisher next to the Pinto display :D


71hotrodpinto

I dont know , Not that i could come anyways but i wouldn't want to. Maybe i take things like this too seriously. Not sure. But i can say that i wouldn't be having a good time getting my hard work laughed at by snob nosed people.
It really sounds like a ruse for the "Goodness we have too much money. What shall we do for entertainment today??" crowd.

Sounds like a lot of quality Pintos are going. Hope that you guys have a great time! And i hope I'm wrong.. Hell i think i was wrong about 164 times last week. LOL!


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redmustangman3

A rescheduled family outing has opened up August 15th and I'm now going to the show. I talked to the promoter yesterday and he is very excited about so many Pintos showing up. This show will be a lot of fun and a great chance to show off our Pintos as well as checking out the other off brands-HAH. A car show without vintage Mustangs and 55-57 Chevys- what's this world coming to? Joe in Morgan Hill, CA
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dga57

Way to go, Chuck!  You just named most of the reasons I like Pintos!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

discolives78

I've read a lot of 70's car mags, and in it's day, the Pinto was very popular, on road and off. We've always had wider access to off-the-shelf performance parts than the Pacer ever did. Lots of them hit the dragstrips, and engines went to dune-buggies--front ends to hod rod projects. And still a lot of them are here with us today.

As far as being misunderstood, underappreciated and the like, this is a good opportunity for exposure, and it actually sounds like fun. The Pinto has a dual infamy. A very good reputation with a very dark cloud over it. (sort of like Michael Jackson, who became like Styx-everybody listened to it, but nobody admitted it :embarrassed:).

I never found the Pinto very quirky though. ??? It was one of the better American small cars of it's day, and it's styling was more remeniscent of early 70-s Camaros with a bob-job than the 'slab-sided' cars that followed it into the eighties. The controls were very well laid out given the space limitations, even for us tall guys. A sporty small car...plain or luxurious. Thrifty and durable. What's so odd about that?

Chuck :afro:


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Pintopower

I'm going! I am bringing my Pangra and one of my Fiats. I know of 2 other pintos going for sure from so cal! I got my room 5 months ago. Im staying a few blocks away if any one wants to crash!
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

entropy

Well, the copy did read "Its a car show for the unloved and under appreciated cars(emphasis added) of the world!"  I would say we fit right in to that category...and I love the idea almost as much as the 24 Hours of LeMons!  When it comes right down to it, isn't Monterey Car Week just begging for a solid kick in the arse?
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78txpony

Unfortunately, the Pinto is often misunderstood and under appreciated by those who never had one or never have known someone who had one.  
Blame the media and the gulible ones who believed what they said.  

The Pinto was THE American sub-compact back then and was a good reliable little car. (That is the reason i have mine.) Those with Pinto experience will usually say how good it was (or still is) to them.  
As for being ugly, well that is just an insult.  The Pacer more fit that description, but more appropriately most of the little jap crap of today.  The Pinto was not bad at all in that comparison.  

If anyone plans to go to this event, perhaps take a true beater, not a restored showcar...  If they want ugly, they should get!   :evil:
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r4pinto

I agree.. I understand about wanting Pintos there, but to pretty much insult them especially on the site that is about the Pinto, just downright stupid.

I understand you are plugging your show Choptop, but don't come on here insulting the cars the site is all about. Besides, the strength of this site & number of members througout the nation makes the comment "Its a car show for the unloved and under appreciated cars of the world" incorrect in every way.

The Pinto is loved by all of us on here.... Not to mention by those that constantly use the phrase " I used to have one & loved it" or " No matter what I did to it I couldn't kill that car."
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popbumper

Geeze - I don't know whether to laugh or be pissed at this one  ??? I get the "idea", but to call the Pinto "truly awful" is just not something I would ever agree with. Unusual? Yup. Diferent? Yup.

The whole thing seems a bit "over the top". Why anyone proud of their car would volunteer to be a spectacle, I would not know why.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

Choptop



The Concours d'LeMons is a celebration of the Oddball, Mundane, and Truly Awful of the Automotive World held right under the noses of the millionaires and billionaires that will be polishing their rides with snow leopard pelt chamois up the road at Pebble Beach.

We'd love to get more Pintos at the Concours d'LeMons!! Its a car show for the unloved and under appreciated cars of the world! So far we have have a few wonderful examples of Pintos, but more Pintos are always better. Got something weird, wacky, or simply spectacularly terrible? Edsels, Pintos, Gremlins, Pacers, Trabants, Dune Buggies, Corvairs, Studebakers... you get the idea. A machine that would make The Quail quail, The Historics hysteric, and Pebble Beach bitchy? Then don't miss your first (hell, most likely only) chance to display it at Monterey Weekend: The deadline for Concours d'LeMons (held Saturday, August 15th) is only a few weeks away.

So if you've got a spectacular hooptie or know another crackpot who does, it's time to hose out the spiders, refill the sump, and drive, drag, or push it to Monterey's Toro Park. That's on Route 68, just four miles and many, many tax brackets behind the Laguna Seca Historics.

For info and car reg, see www.ConcoursdLeMons.com. Spectators are 20 bucks at the gate, tetanus shots not included. Accepted entrants get two tix, goodie swag, glory, and lawn parking for $40.

·    WHAT: Concours d'LeMons--Celebrating the Oddball, Mundane, and Truly Awful of the Automotive World
·    SPECTATOR TIX: $20 at the gate (ie. the cost of one olive at Pebble)
·    PARTICIPANT TIX: $40 in advance (good for one car, two people, and Hep B)
·    WHEN: Saturday, 15 August 2009, 9am-4pm
·    WHERE: Toro Park, 501 Monterey-Salinas Highway (Rt 68), Monterey CA
·    WHY: Because Monterey Car Week needs a good kick in the arse
·    WEBSITE: www.ConcoursdLeMons.com
·    CONTACT: Alan Galbraith, 916.207.4645, AGalbraith@ConcoursdLeMons.com