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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Carolina Boy

That is very nice of you pintogirl. Yes, I will keep you in mind. I will let you know thru this post of my progress. If you do get to pull the car out of the hole and get a picture of the passenger side board, send it to me.
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

pintogirl

Quote from: 71pintoracer on May 23, 2009, 07:17:40 AM
Kim, why do you think the shipping would be so high? I don't think it would weigh that much, and size shouldn't be an issue. Although that 3000 mile trip may add to it... CB, don't get discouraged, believe me, the rust you've got there isn't that bad. I've seen early mustangs that had the entire floor put in! Talk about a structural nitemare!  :o  :o

Well, I was just going off of a quote I got to ship the cowl section. If I remember right, do to size and weight of the item, it was going to be around 70 bucks or so!

I was thinking that the shape of the floor piece needed, would require a somewhat large box. Then ad the weight on top of that. Then the cost of the floor board (basically what ever hubby wants for cutting it out), would it be worth it? Or would it cost less to find something closer??

I can have hubby cut them out and then go from there! Depending on what they look like that is! I havn't even seen them, it still has carpet on them! Problem is, the car is currently on a back burner. Specially for that kinda part pulling. I am going to try to pull the rest of the trim and some other easy misc stuff that forum members want, but it may be a while before we can dig the car back out of it's, now, current hole! LOL  Last time we got a parts car, hubby went gang ho on tearing it apart. This one we took a few things off, then it got push out because of more pressing jobs coming in!

I will keep an eye on this thread and if for some reason, CB, you don't get one by the time we get to the car, I will let you know!!
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

Pangra74

Man I feel guilty having a rust free California car.....I did grow up in New Jersey though and owned 2 Pintos over the years, but not long enough for them to rust through

Joe
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

blupinto

Quote from: r4pinto on May 23, 2009, 01:56:00 PM
On the Pintos, yes it can be to a point. Like most vehicles built since the 80's or so, the Pinto as you know is a unibody constructed car. The Floor does help maintain the strength of the car, but you can fix rusted out floors. Best way is to weld in the new metal. If the rust isn't too awful then you are in better shape than others have been.

Goota face the truth here.. If nobody fixed the rusty metal on these cars then there would be no Pintos on the road, or close to none. Same would go for any rusty car for that matter. It can be fixed, just gotta take some time & be patient. I am going to take my oen advice & do the same thing with my rust bucket. Makes the adventure all the better to learn from.
Says you!  lol. Wildfire (so far) has no real rust issues. Her bumper has rust dots but her floors are still beautiful. But then she didn't live in snow and salt country. ;D I do feel your pain though. CB, don't you give up on your (metal) war horse. She'll carry you through many campaigns yet.  ;)
One can never have too many Pintos!

Carolina Boy

Sounds like we need a "how to fix rusty floorboard 101". Anybody ??? ??? ??? ???
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

dave1987

I totally agree with r4pinto. I have a rusted driver's side floor pan which is just getting worse, and the little pin holes have turned into quarter sized holes since I did the initial inspection two years ago, all due to my leaky windshield gasket.

I want it fixed and I want it fixed sooner than later, but my funds are tight and I just have to hold tight and wait until I can afford the windshield gasket. Once I get that I can pull that windshield, and the dash, gain better access to my floor pans, and weld in the section I cut out of a donor car. I wish I could do it today, but alas, nothing ever seems to go my way. :( (now I sound like pintosopher lol)
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

r4pinto

On the Pintos, yes it can be to a point. Like most vehicles built since the 80's or so, the Pinto as you know is a unibody constructed car. The Floor does help maintain the strength of the car, but you can fix rusted out floors. Best way is to weld in the new metal. If the rust isn't too awful then you are in better shape than others have been.

Goota face the truth here.. If nobody fixed the rusty metal on these cars then there would be no Pintos on the road, or close to none. Same would go for any rusty car for that matter. It can be fixed, just gotta take some time & be patient. I am going to take my oen advice & do the same thing with my rust bucket. Makes the adventure all the better to learn from.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Carolina Boy

OK, OK, I talked it, so I better start walking it!! Thanks for the kick in the arse :drunk:
So the floor isn't a structral area?
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

71pintoracer

Kim, why do you think the shipping would be so high? I don't think it would weigh that much, and size shouldn't be an issue. Although that 3000 mile trip may add to it... CB, don't get discouraged, believe me, the rust you've got there isn't that bad. I've seen early mustangs that had the entire floor put in! Talk about a structural nitemare!  :o  :o
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

r4pinto

TO quote some old guy (hehe)... Take a break & have a beer. Yeah, I know it was you that said that & by god it worked for me. I was there with the bad tranny, engine, rear axle, interior, severe rust... It will get better.

As for the hurricane, nah... we no want another Pinto killed by a tree. There have been too many of those lately.

Hang in there boss. I'm certain you will get past the gremlins.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Carolina Boy

If that side had been like the drivers side, I would have consider it.T his looks to be a structal point, as the front frame mounts to it and I can see it thru the panel. I am stating to doubt myself about finishing this car. First the engine now rusted areas. What's next a hurricane throws a tree on it?
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

pintogirl

Working on Monday will be the only way I can get hubby to help me! LOL He is a work aholic and he is off work on Sunday and Monday, so he will need something to do! I will ask him to do the Pinto!! :)  Let me know if you still need them!

As far as the floor boards. Hubby can cut that stuff out, but the shipping will be astronomical! Have you considered using fiber glass sheets an rosin? THat is how hubby fixed many a floor board in VW Bugs!! You can buy the fiber glass sheeting in any length you would need. I think it is about 3 feet wide. Hubby buys about 5 or 6 feet in length at a time.

Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

Carolina Boy

Kimmy, 78TXPONY may have succeeded in getting me some. I will let you know later. Anyways Monday is a holiday, you think I would have you working then??? If he did get them there is another matter as to looking into the floorboards?????????????
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

pintogirl

Ok, I checked the passenger side and those pieces are there. I am pretty sure the driver side is there too. Let me try to pull them off, and I will PM you if they come off and are still usable!! LOL No guaranty when I will be able to get to it though! I will try to talk hubby into helping me Sunday or Monday!

If he does help me I will finish getting the stuff off for you other members! You know who you are!!! LOL
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

Carolina Boy

Well gee, ah....(head down with eyes cocked up pitifully) I do need the trim off the driver's side 1/4 window???? :embarrassed: :angel:
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

pintogirl

I'm still around!! LOL Just not doing much to the Pintos right now! I still come check things out here 3 or 4 times a day though! LOL

I still have the "77" Pinto that we will be parting out. Only thing is I think I jumped the gun on it! It got put on the back burner for tearing it apart. I can only get to the passenger side of the car right now.  I do have most of the parts off that people wanted from the forum, but need to still pull off 4 pieces of trim. Then I need to figure out how to ship the trim pieces. They are long and curved so, it will be a challenge to find a box!

I have just been busy doing other things, like trying to get my garden planted, and shopping, and working around the house (yuck). LOL

Did you need something off of it??
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

She's probably playing with her beautiful collection of Pintos or goofing around with Malachi or riding with Hubby on the MC or wondering what to do with that nifty Maverick Hubby brought home... the possibilities are endless!  :lol: :angel: :drunk: :rolleye: :hypno: ;) :D :surprised: ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

Carolina Boy

Welcome back! Do yall still have that 78? Were you parting it out or fixing it up?
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.