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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

"Starsky and Hutch" based Pinto paint scheme?

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skunky56

I had a feeling the wrap guys would be able to duplicate the stripe kit. It seems like a reasonable price considering installation is included.
77 Starsky/Hutch 2.3 Turbo A4OD Sunroof
78 Wagon V6 C3

discolives78

I got a quote on having the stripe reproduced and installed at a place called 'Sign-a-Rama', they're a franchise, they do indoor and outdoor signs, truck lettering and vinyl car wraps! Going from the picture in the sales brochure and the measurements of my car (which I had there for them), they said about $350. Keep in mind that includes installation and a warranty. He said he could duplicate almost any stripe kit with pictures and rough measurements (i.e. height and width) in almost any color! He also said doing a 70's car like that would be a 'piece of cake'.

They have a website

http:/www.speedysign.com

Hope that helps anyone looking to put stripes back on their car.

Chuck


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

skunky56

Been working on my sport lately, it cleaned up real well, carpet kit will be in next week. Got it running great, I can't remove the smog(Cali forbids it) or I would. Replaced the leaking power brake booster & master, brakes sure work good now. The sunroof rolls wonderfully and doesn't leak however I need to find a new rear hatch/glass seal. Any ideas where to find one? I'm thinking about selling it to fund my v6 wagon project. I'd like to keep them all just don't know if I can swing it reg,insurance and up keep. Oh well I'll keep you all informed on progress..
77 Starsky/Hutch 2.3 Turbo A4OD Sunroof
78 Wagon V6 C3

arkyt

There's a Mustang II Cobra on craigs list, Washington, Tricities.
78 sedan
77 V8 cruizin wagon
73 MGB
09 Challenger RT

orangekrush

ill post some pics soon!! my firewire from my camera has gone whacky and is not working. but as soon as its fixed ill post em! my profile looks naked without a pic of my pinto on it! its bothering me!
lifes too short to drive a boring ride!

beegle55

You know there are some really sporty Pinto's out there... like skunky56's and... my personal favorite and DREAM car... a 1976 Stallion edition. The Spirit edition... just plain cool cars.  :lol:

    -beegle55
2005 Jeep GC 5.7 HEMI
1993 Ford Mustang
1991 Ford Mustang GT
1988 Ford Mustang
1980 Ford Pinto Cruising- Mint, Fully documented
1979 Ford Pinto Trunk- 2.3L 4 speed
1978 Ford Pinto HB- 302 drag car
1976 Ford Pinto Runabout- 40,000 mi, V6
1972 Ford Maverick Grabber (real)
1970 Ford Mustang 302

skunky56

So that's what it used to look like, ;D Mine has the two tone interior and sun roof it's pretty cool looking. I would like to find  stripe kit for it. It needs a repaint in the near future.
77 Starsky/Hutch 2.3 Turbo A4OD Sunroof
78 Wagon V6 C3

discolives78



This is from the 78 brochure. It says it's available in 'contrasting' colors. Starsky's car is like this but with a different interior.

Chuck


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

discolives78

IIRC that's a vinyl stripe kit, and there was some talk about having it reproduced? :search:

Chuck :afro:


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

TIGGER

I think there is a guy in Canada that has a similar car, just the opposite colors.  His user name is Starsky and Hutch.  Check out his gallery pictures.   
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

75bobcatv6

Map351 reproduces those spoilers and sells them on E-bay and here. Should get in contact with him about one if you want it.

skunky56

Yep, it's box stock all, I've done so far is cleaned it up a bit.It does also have functional brake coolers going through the spoiler. My plan is to put a turbo coupe engine in it but leave it in stock form. I'll keep an eye out for one for you.
77 Starsky/Hutch 2.3 Turbo A4OD Sunroof
78 Wagon V6 C3

Carolina Boy

Skunky, was the spoiler on it at purchase? Any body sell them? Looks great on your car so one would look good on mine. Yall keep your eyes open for one in any condition. :tgif:
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

skunky56

77 Starsky/Hutch 2.3 Turbo A4OD Sunroof
78 Wagon V6 C3

skunky56

77 Starsky/Hutch 2.3 Turbo A4OD Sunroof
78 Wagon V6 C3

Carolina Boy

Orangekrush,
Check out my post in OFF TOPIC about the General Lee. ::)
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

smallfryefarm

There is a small car lot in Huntington WV that usually keeps old hard to find cars on the lot, he has had a mustang II cobra sitting on the lot for several weeks. The factory paint didn't hold up good, white red strips. surface rust showing Thur the paint. Looks all original.
Smallfryefarms Horsepower Ranch

Pintopower

I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

orangekrush

i know that in the torinos that the TRUE starsky and hutch cars had a XXX in the paint code box. so decoding it is hard. and finding a real one is even harder. i just painted my 74 torino wagon like this. i just used off the shelf "fire engine red and white"  and got a set of 17 inch slot mags from summit!  LOOKS KILLER!!! but a pinto would look cool too! my pinto is the bright orange and i was thinkin mabey a rebel flag on the roof and an 01 on the doors would go good. YEEEEE HAAAW!! :lol:
lifes too short to drive a boring ride!

beegle55

Other than the Caravan, I like almost every car desing by Lee Iacocca. He was a very smart automotive mind who was always ahead of his time with his innovation in the auto industry. He is my idol and a Mustang II is just another great work of his. I agree that the Mustang should have been kept small. The new Mustangs have a smaller engine and weigh more... better off to go with a V6 in the new style Mustangs. They look cool, yeah, but look at the new Camaro or the new Challanger... two biggest differences is that they have the muscle to back the weight unlike new Mustangs and their 281's. Just my 2 cents...

   -beegle55
2005 Jeep GC 5.7 HEMI
1993 Ford Mustang
1991 Ford Mustang GT
1988 Ford Mustang
1980 Ford Pinto Cruising- Mint, Fully documented
1979 Ford Pinto Trunk- 2.3L 4 speed
1978 Ford Pinto HB- 302 drag car
1976 Ford Pinto Runabout- 40,000 mi, V6
1972 Ford Maverick Grabber (real)
1970 Ford Mustang 302

blupinto

Better hustle- I think Mustang IIs are more scarce than our Pintos! I want one too.
One can never have too many Pintos!

beegle55

My dad has good stories of fun times in his Mustang II's... I really like Mustang II's as well and will probably end up with one sometime in the future.

    -beegle55
2005 Jeep GC 5.7 HEMI
1993 Ford Mustang
1991 Ford Mustang GT
1988 Ford Mustang
1980 Ford Pinto Cruising- Mint, Fully documented
1979 Ford Pinto Trunk- 2.3L 4 speed
1978 Ford Pinto HB- 302 drag car
1976 Ford Pinto Runabout- 40,000 mi, V6
1972 Ford Maverick Grabber (real)
1970 Ford Mustang 302

larjohnson

Just for information, the Angel that drove the Pinto on Charlie's Angels was Kate Jackson, who played Sabrina Duncan.  I know this because that's my era, and I had a major crush on her.  Jacklyn Smith played Kelly Garrett, she drove the Mustang II and Farah Fawcett played Jill Monroe, she drove the Mustang Cobra II.  This show was a true classic. I was a major fan of the show, and even bought a 1976 Ford Mustang Cobra II in my younger days, just like the one Farah drove on the show.  Just thought I'd bring some TV trivia to the site.  Have a great day.
Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

beegle55

That's our baby. 1800 original street miles before it was turned into a drag car. This car has been garage kept for almost all its life as well so it is solid as a rock. I'm not for sure how long it will remain my car but for now it's still in my garage I'm not sure how this sell is going to go through.

    -beegle55
2005 Jeep GC 5.7 HEMI
1993 Ford Mustang
1991 Ford Mustang GT
1988 Ford Mustang
1980 Ford Pinto Cruising- Mint, Fully documented
1979 Ford Pinto Trunk- 2.3L 4 speed
1978 Ford Pinto HB- 302 drag car
1976 Ford Pinto Runabout- 40,000 mi, V6
1972 Ford Maverick Grabber (real)
1970 Ford Mustang 302

larjohnson

beegle55:

The pix you have with your profile.  Is this the racer you have?  It's a beautiful car.  I just wasn't sure if this was the racer you spoke of, but I was just curious.  Anyway, have a great weekend.  Oh Yeah!!!!! I've become interested in the Starsky and Hutch Pinto, yeah I'm not sure it it actually was called that, but.... it sure looks like the car they drove in their tv series.  Anyway, I'm going to try and do some research, as I get time.  If I find out anything, I'll let you know.
C ya.....Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

beegle55

There was a Pinto featured in the earlier Charlie's Angels but it was just a orange 1977 Pinto with a white top and trim, not a Starsky and Hutch job.

    -beegle55
2005 Jeep GC 5.7 HEMI
1993 Ford Mustang
1991 Ford Mustang GT
1988 Ford Mustang
1980 Ford Pinto Cruising- Mint, Fully documented
1979 Ford Pinto Trunk- 2.3L 4 speed
1978 Ford Pinto HB- 302 drag car
1976 Ford Pinto Runabout- 40,000 mi, V6
1972 Ford Maverick Grabber (real)
1970 Ford Mustang 302

Carolina Boy

I can't remember her name but it was the long black haired woman on Charlie's Angels. Didn't she drive a Pinto with the same paint scheme??

Carolina Boy
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

Pintopower

I am pretty sure larjohnson is correct but I do not know of it was indeed called a Starsky and Hutch pinto. It was in the EARLY 77 Pinto cataloge but the pulled it for the remainder of the year for some reason. They did keep the stripe though, just the colors changed. It was a decal, not a painted stripe. We added it on my sisters pinto (but with paint):



and I saw this car on the street one day with an interesting 2-tone factory job that was painted (can be seen in the 80 cataloge):



Here are a couple on Flickr too:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mazdamiata/2803180293/?addedcomment=1#comment72157613128542336

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16445093@N03/2644096485/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/n6nkn/210058357/

Good luck!
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

beegle55

Thanks for the reply. I'll give that a go. My first streetable Pinto met bad fate as we were trying to restore it. Put in another running 2.3 and sent the car off to paint... (The car was one-owner as I mentioned, perfect interior, solid body, just faded paint) The deadbeat my dad hired to paint the car ruined it. He ran into family problems and had to sell some equipment so he couldn't do the job, but instead of telling us he stripped the car apart, busted the passenger side window out of it, but a bunch of his junk in the mint backseat, and left it to rot outside. We recovered it 2 years later and it was ruined. Rust throughout the fenders, interior faded and ruined. :devil: So now I have the racecar and am looking for another Pinto.

    -beegle55
2005 Jeep GC 5.7 HEMI
1993 Ford Mustang
1991 Ford Mustang GT
1988 Ford Mustang
1980 Ford Pinto Cruising- Mint, Fully documented
1979 Ford Pinto Trunk- 2.3L 4 speed
1978 Ford Pinto HB- 302 drag car
1976 Ford Pinto Runabout- 40,000 mi, V6
1972 Ford Maverick Grabber (real)
1970 Ford Mustang 302

larjohnson

Beegle55:

I'm no expert, but I believe there was a limited edition Starsky and Hutch based Pinto paint scheme.  As a matter of fact, there is a fellow member under the name Starksy and Hutch, which has posted pictures of his Starsky and Hutch Pinto.  If you go into gallery, just look for the pictures loaded by Starsky and Hutch, he has a beautiful 1977 Pinto.  He has also posted a thread under General Pinto Talk, I think it's on page 6 where he speaks of the side stripe for his Starsky and Hutch Pinto.  You can probably send him a message, I'm sure he can tell you all about it.  Good luck, yes.... Pintos rule....by the way, I had a Pinto in High School also, but that's when they were new.......Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!