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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Bill Miller Co-Founder Carlisle Speaks about PCCA

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dga57

Hey Mark,

I can vouch for that... I was there last June and I can't remember the last time I saw that many Pintos in one place :amazed:! 

Don't mean to hijack the thread. but I also wanted to thank you for the scam alert (you posted it in a thread where it cannot be replied to).  I had the same thing happen to me on a hood last year.  If I had not paid using PayPal, I would have been out over $160!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

pintoman

  Yes there is a show at  Carlisle this year.It will be on the fisrt full weekend in June,that is the 5th,6th and 7th of June.There will be plenty of Pinto's there.So come on down and have some fun and meet your Pinto friends.
05 Pigon Forge Meet, 06 Carlile Meet Coordinator 06-07 Carlile Regional, Brief Case Award (ask)

pintoguy77

Geez,i wish i lived down the States so i could share the fun you guys are having in this pinto club.Where i live in Eastern Canada theres like   NO  such thing as a pinto even on the road let alone someone forming a club.Theres dime a dozen mustangs,chevelles,camaros,challengers,cudas,etc etc,but nothing different such as a pinto,datsun,vega or anything like that.Is there a show in carlisle this year with pintos there or are they gonna wait till 2011?I promised myself i would be there for the first time.Someone send me a message if there is gonna be a show and swap meet this spring or whenever,ok,thanks guys,and i enjoy reading this pinto stuff more than youll ever know.PS,i have a 77 pinto runabout project on the go and im dropping a 289 C4 into it.3 years in the making now....Thanks....Mark

Pinto1600

 ;D ;D BUMP :lol: :lol: The calander just arrived in the mail,Mrach will stand still for at least 3-4 months this year!LOL
Happiness is..Driving a classic Pinto

Scott Hamilton

Quote from: Pinto1600 on October 15, 2008, 12:57:27 PM
BIG BIG BUMP HERE!!!!!!! I just found out that the '72 will be in the 2009 Lengendary Ford Magazine calander(March). YAHOOOOO!!!!!!

Now that rocks!

I'm getting mine!
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

Pinto1600

BIG BIG BUMP HERE!!!!!!! I just found out that the '72 will be in the 2009 Lengendary Ford Magazine calander(March). YAHOOOOO!!!!!!
Happiness is..Driving a classic Pinto

Scott Hamilton

It's on the front page... get your copy today...
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

75bobcatv6

Whats the name of the magazine so i can look for it

Pinto1600

Got my copies EARLY,they should hit magazine racks in a couple of weeks
Happiness is..Driving a classic Pinto

75bobcatv6


Pinto1600

Bump......... The magazine just hit the door,fantastic article. I'm smiling from ear to ear!!!!
Happiness is..Driving a classic Pinto

Pinto1600

BUMP BUMP BUMP............. Just got a call from LFM,the Sept./Oct. issue will be in the mail within 2-3 weeks. I've got my 3 or 4 personal issues coming by Thursday 8/28. I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happiness is..Driving a classic Pinto

FlyerPinto

1977 Bobcat HB
1977 Bobcat HB
1978 Pinto Cruising Wagon

So many projects, so little time...

rkk

Great job Scott and all the people that work so hard on this site.  It has tremendously helped me in my project.  I am proud to be a member!
Celebrate all.

Thanks Ray
1976 TURBO PINTO
1969 AMC AMX not a pinto, but I like it, fast for not being a FORD (It's different just like a PINTO)

popbumper

Hope this is not cheesy - but I gotta say, I could >not< be happier being a part of this group. My wife said years ago (in the early 90's) that nobody would ever be interested in Pintos - I told her "wait - it's coming". WOW! Folks, we are >just< starting to get the recognition, and man, I am stoked.

Congrats and thanks to the many who had the foresight, knowledge and perseverance to move forward. With Ford recognizing us, what could be better? I hope sincerely I can make a contribution to this fine group; I certainly am making roots towards that end.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

gpinto2

WOW!!!!!!!!!! Is all I can say,Just goes to show what great people we have here on this site.From the Admins to the guests everybody is always willing to lend a hand to help each other out with either info or parts.

I never,ever imagined anything like this would happen when we all started this.But,with Scott doing his thing and everybody else pushing foward we've made a great community.

Thanks everybody and keep up the great work!!!!!!!!!
1972 Pinto 410,C-4

apintonut

74 hatch soon to be turbo 2.3
73 sedan soon to be painted
stiletto parts(4 sale)
79 pinto wagon & beentoad
wtb 75 yellow w/ black int. (rally?) like profile pic.

Scott Hamilton

Founder and Leader.. HA!!!!!

I serve the Admins, the Charter Members & the Pinto community at large...  I guess I am the founder of the site but Greg G. is the founder of the PCCA and you must know that your admins work all the time to keep the place we all call home nice and tidy. 

FordPinto.com & the PCCA became one several years ago when the eGroups or Yahoo group was brought over.

So.. we are the PCCA/ FordPinto.com & NOW (Ta Da..)  well.. this is a good place to announce as any...  We now have Ford Motor Companies official okie dokie and blesssing over our domain name, website, club, logo, shirts etc...  This happend just last week!

We are now the 'Official FORD Pinto car club of America'...

Wow.. I was bouncing all round there...

Give a BIG thank you to all your Admins and all they do for all of us here...  They have paved the way for all of this to happen....
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

Pinto1600

Sorry Scott,
          As founder and leader of this fine site,I'll send you a signed copy. LOL Hope that makes up for my lateness.
Happiness is..Driving a classic Pinto

Scott Hamilton

Quote from: Pinto1600 on August 07, 2008, 01:50:00 PM
My bad,I should have done this earlier. The '72 Pinto will be featured in the Sept./Oct. issue of Legendary Ford. Thanks again to all!!!!

Ahhh.. OK I have subscribed so we can get it online ONLY AFTER significant time has passed when they publish...

Thanks Phil!
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

77turbopinto

Thanks to all U.S. Military members past & present.

Pinto1600

My bad,I should have done this earlier. The '72 Pinto will be featured in the Sept./Oct. issue of Legendary Ford. Thanks again to all!!!!
Happiness is..Driving a classic Pinto

Pinto1600

Thank you Tony,that means alot coming from you! And Thank you Connie,you and Bill run a couple really great Pintos. The Bobcat on Rod and Piston was mine for a while but an offer to good to turn down was made and it went down the road to a very good friend. And the car bought the new 18' car hauler I used to transport the '72 to Carlisle this year. Please feel free to tap into the RodandPiston site to keep tabs on what happens in my neck of the woods,and to read my rants or comments. I go under the handle PINTOMAN,sorry Harley!
Happiness is..Driving a classic Pinto

bobscat

OOPS,  :hypno:, my bad, I cardinal sinned on the Pinto/Bobcat name switch!  Even I try to avoid that, owning a Bobcat and all....LOL

Any way, cool, and thanks for the info!  I messed around on that site for a bit, and saw they had numerous Pinto pictures, with pretty good rankings, too I might add!

;D

phils toys

That is not a pinto , it is a bobcat that phil sold  and then bought the 72 pinto.
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

bobscat


phils toys

I apologize for not sticking around for the awards and parade. but I had other thingswaiting at home  and an over heated  child.
phils toys
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

Creamsicle

I was two cars behind Phil in the parade and after steadily moving along, I came to a complete halt and wondered what was going on up ahead.  I couldn't see past Brian's car in front of me and couldn't really hear the speakers at the grandstand.   As much fun as it was to be in the parade, I wish I had been in the stands to hear what Mr. Miller had to say.  Phil, you should be very proud.  Your's is a fine example of an original, well cared-for vintage automobile.  The fact that it is a Pinto is a huge bonus for all of us.  We've been into Pintos for about ten years now and there has been a significant upsurge in interest and acceptance.   Thanks to Scott for giving us an outlet to communicate. Thanks to all who have organized meets (not just Carlisle) which gives us an opportunity to show off and promote our  cars. It's just a matter of time before there is a "Pintos Unlimited" catalog in our bathroom.
Connie
My car could get a job at Hooters, it's already got the uniform.

Pinto1600

Scott, it was great meeting you and your lovely wife. I can't tell you what was going through my head at that moment,it was all a bit of a dream come true. Again,I'd like to thank you and the people that drive this club,and work so hard to make it what it is! I'm looking forward to next year and I'm really excited about the 2011 Carlisle show with the 40th birthday celebration of the Pinto. I'll do what I can to help out with this project! As soon as I find anything about the Legendary Ford article,I will be posting it! GOOOOOOOOOO PINTO!!!!!!!!!!
Happiness is..Driving a classic Pinto

77turbopinto

I never saw that coming, even with Mr. Miller stopping in at our tent on Saturday and spending some time there, it was still a jaw-dropper at the parade.

Another thing I noticed was that with car after car with almost no reaction from the crowd for most cars, the Pintos got so much attention and cheers (UFO cheerleaders?).

We were back up on the hill like we were last year, but in an area with not many groups, or small ones, it appears that we did have more than the average number of visitors. (at least we had a slight breeze up there time to time too)

I would like to take this time to thank everyone that came to the event, with or without a Pinto; YOU make the event rewarding.

Scott: Who knew it would have made it this far, and have so much on the horizon?? Thank you for getting this ball rolling.


Bill
Thanks to all U.S. Military members past & present.