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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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popbumper

Thanks for joining us, Mr. Otnip. Stick around - we have plenty of fun here  :welcome:

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

Mr.Otnip

   Hey Fellas, (and ladies),

         I guess I'm the new kid on the block! I have a 74 pinto that is green with a green interior and is all original! Pintos are a rare sight up here in Wasaga Beach Ontario, Canada! ( the longest freshwater beach in the world!, off the shores of georgian bay!)

         Alright, lets cut to the chase!  :wow: was that?!

        He deserves to be punished for that honkin' rip on the pinto! I hate that! Pinto's get commented on about their fuel tank problem way too much than necessary! They really dont desrve it!

      You zoop buddy! Go drive a Pinto!

        Anyway, Nice meeting you guys!  :coolrasta:
   

Norman Bagi

Hey, I was driving down Fifth Avenue in NYC followed a few car lengths back by a Lambo, and everyone was pointing at the Pinto and waving.  The show stinks, the guy has a lucky spot and gets to drive alot of nice cars.  His 15 minutes of fame is almost up and he put down the Pinto.  big deal, the guy in the Lambo paid more for one tire than I did for my whole car, and he was smoked.

101 cars you must drive, He, lets talk about one car you must own "A Pinto!"

:lol:

turbopinto72

In High School I had a 68 VW squareback with a pinto motor in it. It was called the 
HalfBread. Use to have a lot of fun in it.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

dangerusdug

I'd would really like to see that transformation, I've heard about it but never saw one up close ! I saw a guy put a rabbit motor in a bug . I know the sand rail guys run that set up ..

apintonut

well i give it up to the vw guys  they have even been know to show up at our meet from time to time.
i my self have a 64 baja i just got a week ago.  but of course its getting a pinto engine  ;D
74 hatch soon to be turbo 2.3
73 sedan soon to be painted
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Cookieboystoys

Quote from: dangerusdug on July 27, 2008, 09:30:34 PM
:wow: Don't  be dissing them Vw's they bin around longer !

Hey no worries DD, VW's are cool too  ;D

anytime a bug can get first place in class (78 and older special interest and this was a Judged! show) to beat a shelby cobra which got second this weekend at one of the shows I was at...

Ya just got to smile  ;D
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

dangerusdug

 :wow: Don't  be dissing them Vw's they bin around longer !

popbumper

Watched at least four episodes "101 cars" today (hey, it was 105 degrees in Dallas, you stay >inside< when it's that hot). In four episodes, there were at least three "bad" references to Pintos (although he was driving a Citroen in one episode, and said "a guy in a Pinto just drove by and was laughing at me (in the Citroen)".

Todays mention of K-cars (the vehicle that saved Chrysler Corp.), the Corvair (nuff said), and the Volkswagen beetle (which he said everyone has owned) are enough to convince me that the Pinto SHOULD be a featured car. Why?

1) It has HUGE name recognition, regardless
2) It was a MAJOR seller for Ford
3) It was Ford's first attempt at an economy car, and aside from the initial issues, was VERY successful.
4) EVERYONE had one - or their relatives did, FAR more than the VW beetle.

Guys, let's figure out how to write the Speed channel and/or the comedian, get a CHOICE example on there (geeze, talk about a photo op for someone's car), and change the general public's opinion. Since the show is less concerned about appearance, "sexiness", or sportiness than impact on history, the Pinto has a place in automotive history.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

phils toys

Quote from: Cookieboy on July 27, 2008, 05:23:27 PM
Today at the car show... we got into a discussion about the "exploding" Pintos... and someone else mentioned... "more Mustangs have exploded due to rear end collisions than Pintos." to which I answered... Shhhh... don't let the Mustang guys here ya say that  ;)

http://www.safetyforum.com/fordmustang/
nice link cookeyboy
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

gordie

A couple of years ago they were after the Chevy pickups whose tanks exploded on side impact and it was not just once like with the Pinto.  Chevrolet seems to have weathered that controversy ok as did the Ford Explorers with their bad Firestone tires.  I do not know what it will take for people to forget about the Pinto mishap.  Maybe another forty years!

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: gordie on July 26, 2008, 01:12:12 PM
Ralph Nader has influenced the reputation of the Pinto far too long and he is not done yet!  We need to keep those Pintos out there in large numbers and show the uninformed how great they are. 

Today at the car show... we got into a discussion about the "exploding" Pintos... and someone else mentioned... "more Mustangs have exploded due to rear end collisions than Pintos." to which I answered... Shhhh... don't let the Mustang guys here ya say that  ;)

http://www.safetyforum.com/fordmustang/
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

turbopinto72

I guess they will need to drive a Pangra then  ;D
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

apintonut

well if the K car made it on there as 101 cars u must drive and the pinto dose not. well then this show isn't worth the air time that it is receiving.
74 hatch soon to be turbo 2.3
73 sedan soon to be painted
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gordie

Ralph Nader has influenced the reputation of the Pinto far too long and he is not done yet!  We need to keep those Pintos out there in large numbers and show the uninformed how great they are.  He did a number on the Corvair too and I remember in 1969 you could go to a Chevrolet dealer and they would give you a bumper sticker that said "I love my Corvair".  It was too late for Corvair as they were gone right after that.

Smeed

Quote from: Cookieboy on July 26, 2008, 05:31:56 AM
comedian

That explains it all! The writers are probably just trying to play off the exploding car myth that we hear every day...

Although I would expect the pinto to be 1 car you must drive just for that same reason.

'73 runabout

Cookieboystoys

http://www.speedtv.com/programs/101-cars-you-must-drive/#

101 Cars You Must Drive  From the slightly silly to the totally awesome, comedian Alonzo Bodden takes you for an irreverent spin in 101 cars that have made history.  Hop in the driver's seat as the Last Comic Standing winner and former stealth fighter mechanic experiences these amazing cars in all their glory.  It's the good, the bad and the unexpected.  Don't miss a single hilarious minute of this new SPEED series.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Srt

maybe if we write them and note our dissatisfaction with his comments and that we may have to stop watching PINKS, Passtime, all Nascar and Formula racing as well as all sports car racing on their channel.......they might have himmodify his commentary.


OR BETTER YET... get a prime example of the Pinto Species and get his butt out there for a REAL test drive
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

turbopinto72

Figures, the one channel I don't get........... >:(
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

apintonut

74 hatch soon to be turbo 2.3
73 sedan soon to be painted
stiletto parts(4 sale)
79 pinto wagon & beentoad
wtb 75 yellow w/ black int. (rally?) like profile pic.

turbopinto72

I have not heard of the show. what network is it on ?
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

apintonut

is any one els following this show. this guy has dissed on the pinto on every show what is up with this
74 hatch soon to be turbo 2.3
73 sedan soon to be painted
stiletto parts(4 sale)
79 pinto wagon & beentoad
wtb 75 yellow w/ black int. (rally?) like profile pic.