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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Quote from: Mornblade on April 20, 2008, 07:53:14 PM
....In other news, we have discovered that the T-bird rims themselves rub against the upper control arm.  We are considering using spacers or picking up some tubular control arms.  Has anyone else encountered this before, and if so how did you deal with it?

YES!!

I have heard/read of so many folks installing them so I thought it was a "direct bolt". I needed to grind down the ball joint flange and part of the outer rivet to get them to clear my 10-holes, but it will still rub a little when the suspention is compressed.

A similar issue with my Granada rotors with the lower arm: never seen ANYONE else mention the problem....


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Mornblade

Okay it's been a while since I updated this thread so here goes...

We finally got everything we needed to put the engine back together and did just that.



The valve cover and the oil pan have been powder-coated, not painted.

Over the last year we built a new garage as a home for our Pinto and a place to work on it.  It makes things so much easier than trying to work outside in the weather.



Last week we pulled the transmission and have set to doing a rebuild with a B&M rebuild kit.




We now have the back end raised up.



We took out the stock exhaust.




And next we plan to drop the gas tank.




Assuming the tank is still good, we plan to offer it up for sale as well as the recall package (we are switching to a fuel cell).


In other news, we have discovered that the T-bird rims themselves rub against the upper control arm.  We are considering using spacers or picking up some tubular control arms.  Has anyone else encountered this before, and if so how did you deal with it?


Mornblade

Here my Pinto sits on it's borrowed wheels and new tires.

The wheels came off of a 1988 T-Bird Turbo Coupe (engine donor car).  The tires are size 205/45/16 in the front and 205/50/16 in the back.  We won't know until the motor is in, but the front looks like they will just barely clear (I'm thinking that stiffening up the suspension should help).  The back has a little less then a half inch from the sidewall rubbing the bottom lip of the body/frame.




In other news, the machine shop gave us the wrong piston rings and had to order the right ones which are on back order.  So, once again we are held up on the engine rebuild.  Once the rings come in, we'll get the motor back together.

I've purchased a double gage pod from Map.  It is a beautifully crafted piece.  I just have to find the time to do a little sanding, drilling (for mount screws), and mounting. 

I've pretty much decided to dump my back seat all together and then mounting the battery box and creating some additional storage space as well as speaker mounting points.

I also have to find a box for these parts I have for Pintony so I can get them back to him.


That's all the news.  Have a nice day.

Mornblade

Well.... after six months we FINALLY got the motor back from Borowski Race Enterprises in Rockdale, IL.  This included a valve job, a little cylinder cleanup, and crank polish (actually, a bit more but not important stuff).

The head is built up and ready to go on, the piston&rod combos are well balanced, we now need to buy some bearings and gaskets and start rebuilding.

I am taking the oil pan and valve cover to be powder coated tomorrow.

I have added a 007-style cigarette lighter modification for a push button switch.  I am thinking of adding any extra switches I need in the ashtray as well (seeing as how I don't smoke and ask my riders not to).  This will keep them hidden.

I am using the 16" rims from the T-bird.  I was planning on using 205/50/16 tires.  Does anyone else use these?  if so, will they provide the clearance I need in the wheel wells and for steering without modification?   If not, what would you recommend?  I would like to use the same rims front and back and the same size tires front and back.  Any help with this part would be much appreciated.  I would really rather not spend $400 on tires for them to not fit.

Well, that's all I have for now.

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Mornblade

Okay... I am aware it's been a long time since I posted any news on my Fireball project.  That's because of a large number of things getting in the way of me getting anything done.  But anyway, here's an update.

The '88 T/C motor has been torn down and sent to the Speed Shop.  The block and head were cleaned and magnafluxed and had no cracks.  The head was returned and my friend Dino is almost done doing a port and polish job.  The block is being honed.  And I'm one weekend overtime day away from having the money to pay for the Speed Shop work (that isn't done yet). 

My friend MartMan is working on making a new guage cluster to mount all of our new guages to.  We are currently short on the Tachometer, which I ran out of saved money before I could purchase. 

I finished the brake job on the rear axle, but haven't been in a position to actually swap the axles yet.

I also stumbled onto a front-mount intercooler at a really good price.

We ended up making back $100 over the price we paid for the T/C and still kept the motor and rims, plus gave away the body to my cousin.  So that worked out really well.

Hopefully we will be able to get the motor installed into the Pinto within the next couple of months.  We've pretty much lost a year on the timeframe originally planned, but that's only to be expected.

So far, the project is running at a little over $2000 total cash outlay (that number includes the Speed Shop estimated price and the price of the car).


That's all I have for now, I hope to have more news for you soon, and if I do I might have more pics as well.

Mornblade

Here's what has been happening with my project as of late...

The motor has been pulled from the Thunderbird, and I anticipate my Auto Tech friend to be picking it up next weekend to open it up and rebuild it.  He already has the harness from the T-bird as well as the wiring diagrams for both cars.

I placed an order on Friday with a local speed shop for a gauge, sparkplug wires, spark plugs, and a new fuse block.  And I'm looking to get an MSD coil from e-bay.

I've transfered the rims from the T-Bird to the Pinto.  The rims seem fine, but the tires have to be changed.  The stock tires are 225/60/r16  they are a little too wide for clearance in the back and a little too round for clearance in the front.  We have decided to look into 205/50/r16 in hopes of allowing clearance on both front and back.

I'm half way through the brake job on the Mustang II axle, the side I started with went reasonably well (I haven't done a brake job in over a decade), but the other side is fighting me.  It just doesn't want to give up the drum.  I decided to tackle it tomorrow after work and sprayed it down with penetrating oil.  When the brake job is done, I'll need some good weekend weather to swap the rear ends.

Now, if only I weren't running out of money... oh well, I guess I'll have to work some overtime.   

72Wagon

  Thanks, and good luck with the new pinto, they are a lot of fun.
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Mornblade

Oops... forgot the diameter.  I believe it's 13 inches maybe 13.5 I'm not sure.  it is definately a smaller diameter than the stock wheel, and it also sticks out from the column about half an inch LESS than the stock wheel. 

This comes in really handy for short people like myself, allowing to move the seat closer and get better throttle footing.

Mornblade

It's a GRANT Steering Wheel, Challenger model.  They sell for about $50.  This one was a Xmas gift.  Yes, it does require an adapter kit.  And a hack saw.  The steering column has a flared piece that sticks up on the main shaft.  From the looks of it, this serves no purpose.  That little bit has to be hacked off to provide clearance for the horn button.

By all means, if you EVER have questions, I'm glad to answer.  I have gotten lots of advice and information from this and other forums since I started this project.  I like to give back to these communities by helping out if I can.

72Wagon

 If you don't mind me asking what brand is the steering wheel and what is the diameter? Was adapter kit needed?
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Mornblade

Thunderbird After Pics:

And this is what it looked like yesterday afternoon.


Mornblade

Thunderbird before pics:

This is what the Thunderbird looked like the day after I brought it home.


Mornblade

Heres's the new steering wheel....


Mornblade

Sorry I haven't posted anything lately, but I've been a bit busy.  Anyway here's the run down...

I have purchased an 8" rear out of a V8 Mustang II from Quickrick.  We aren't quite ready to install it, but we are getting closer.

When I tried to change the steering wheel to an aftermarket wheel, I discovered that a previous owner broke off a bolt in the wheel preventing the use of a steering wheel puller.  After a bit of fighting, drilling, using and EZ-out, and foul language, we got the bolt piece out and discovered why it had broken.  It was a stardard bolt that had been stripped into the metric hole.  After a bit more work, it finally came off, and has been replaced.  I'll provide a pic later.

I purchased some brake parts from www.rockauto.com at 3AM Tues/Wed night.  They arrived at my door Thursday afternoon.  Now, that's what I call service.

The Thunderchicken that we are getting the motor from will be ready for the engine to come out VERY soon, and then the REAL fun starts.  The 'Bird was purchased on eBay in running, but not streetable order.  Over the course of the last 5 months, my wife and I have been slowly stripping it and selling off parts on eBay.  The car has paid for itself at this point, and has started making money.  So, free running motor, free wheels (with new tires on the back set), free body panels for my cousin's stock car, AND it's making money.  Not bad at all.  I will also have before and after pics of this as soon as I get the camera downloaded.

I found the limited slip differential I want to use, but it's a bit pricey, so I will be holding off on that probably until next spring.  The important part at this point is to make the car go and stop.  And to make it do those things as safely as possible without giving up velocity.

Well, that's all I have at the moment... I'll get those pics posted soon.

Mornblade

With the new year starting, I have been stripping the T-bird of parts I don't need.  This will make getting the parts I do need easier to remove.  I have requests from a few people for specific parts (body shell, wiper motor, maybe the seats) but anything else that I don't need will likely end up on E-Bay.  I have about a half dozen things already pulled and hope to get more done later today.  Hopefully I'll have excess parts listed in the next couple of weeks.


Mornblade

We have acquired a complete '88 T-bird Turbo Coupe to act as donor for the motor and wiring.

This car will be used for any component we need in making the swap to the Pinto, and the remainder will be parted out with parts being sold locally and on EBay.  If you or someone you know may be interested in any particular part, let me know.

I love when  a plan starts to come together.  Anyway, that's all the news I have at this time.


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its something great to start with. i cant wait to watch it unfold
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Mornblade

Finding the motor is turning out to be harder than find the car.  Found one motor, but the price was a bit high for the motor without the turbo.  I have no doubt that if I can't find something else that it will still be sitting there.

The stock motor is out and waiting for Pintony to come get.  I've found a new radio bezel, and will still need a passenger side front marker light.  I've also replaced the hatch lift struts, and have started cleaning up the rust.

As there is little physical change, there is no point in posting new pics at this time.


Mornblade

Okay, here's a few more pics and an update.

In one of the pics you'll see the front tire flat.  This has been replaced with one that holds air so we can move the car around. 

The stock motor will be coming out hopefully before Monday.  When it's out, I will notify Pintony and he can come get it. 

We decided to keep the Auto-trans instead of switching to the manual.  It's a C-4 and from what I'm told, a very versatile trans. 

After the motor and trans are out, we will be tackling the surface rust with sand paper and primer to keep it from getting worse over the time it takes before the car goes to have it's proper paint job.

During that time, the trans will go to my auto-technician friend who will be looking it over and rebuilding it if necessary.

While the rest of this is happening, we are looking for a donor car for the motor.

I have made a couple of local contacts who are familiar with the motor we plan to use, one of which had actually done this same swap previously (although he swapped out again later for a 5.0 out of a Mustang.. nice car, but he needs to take it out and clean the dust off... it's been sitting for a number of years).  One of the contacts provided me with an EEC-IV computer for the motor and a Superchips performance module, the other gave me a lot of advice and an oil filter... well, he had it lying around.

And slowly we are getting this project off the ground.  Hopefully we will find the motor soon.  All initial engine and trans work will be done separate from the car, while various other jobs (body, interior, suspension, etc.) will be done similtaneously over the winter.

We plan to have the car running, strong, and roadworthy by next summer.  And hope to get it to the body shop for paint the following winter.  Hopefully my wallet will work with us on this schedule.

So, here's the pics...




Mornblade

As of this weekend, I am the proud owner of a 1974 Pinto Runabout.  I have future plans for this car that include a turbo 2.3, possibly a 5-speed (haven't decided yet), a custom paint job, some new rims, complete overhaul of the interior and maybe some custom fabricated accent pieces.  I would like a nice Hot Rod/Show Car.  Things are not yet set in stone, although much is in the planning stages.  I expect the project to take a couple of years based mostly on money.  I have a couple of friends with many auto related talents working with me.  They are very good at what they do, and yet have offered their services free-of-charge, just to be involved in something a bit different from what they usually do.  I promised Pintony that I would definately post pics of our progress as we go.  So far I only have pics from the night the car arrived here, I need to do some daylight pics, and pics of the interior and engine compartment.  I hope to have those in the next couple of days.  Until then, here's something to tide you over.