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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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earthquake

No not as a general rule.But bad batches happen.I recently got a tank in my f250 that made the engine ping so badly we had to add octane booster just so we could get home without destroying the motor.this was my usual station and usual grade(supreme)
73 sedan parts car,80 crusin wagon conversion,76 F 250 460 SCJ,74 Ranchero 4x4,88 mustang lx convertable,and the readheaded step child 86 uhhh Chevy 4x4(Sorry guys it was cheap)

Pintony

Quote from: earthquake on October 15, 2007, 10:05:18 PM
Had a feeling,The problem is caused by detonation.The 2.3 is especially prone to this problem.If the gasget doesn't blow than the piston crown usually melts down.The cause is typically bad gas IE lower than advertised octane,It usually happens with winter gas higher volatility.

R U saying that winter gas has less octane??

earthquake

Had a feeling,The problem is caused by detonation.The 2.3 is especially prone to this problem.If the gasget doesn't blow than the piston crown usually melts down.The cause is typically bad gas IE lower than advertised octane,It usually happens with winter gas higher volatility.
73 sedan parts car,80 crusin wagon conversion,76 F 250 460 SCJ,74 Ranchero 4x4,88 mustang lx convertable,and the readheaded step child 86 uhhh Chevy 4x4(Sorry guys it was cheap)

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High_Horse

They do't know us very well do day?? :lol:

                                                                                         High_Horse
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

Pintony

Hey H-H,
I have to get the engine done soon or I will be spending the winter living in the garage..

Funny thing is Cindy thinks that is a threat!!! ;D ;D ;D

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High_Horse

How do you spell profectionist...P-I-N-T-O-N-Y.
You were looking for any good reason to redo that engine compartment And I guess that head gasket was a good one.
Her Hieness _Horse said if I touch anything in my engine compartment before the bathroom is done then I can move in there. I said....Thanks for the visual.

                                                                                       High_Horse
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

Pintony

Hey Doug...
I am re-building the Factory engine
My block is at the machine shop.
The bore will be checked as will it be checked for cracks.
If all checks out it will be sunnen honed with a torqplate 1/2 thousandsor .0005
The block will be shaved .010. The block has some marks from previous head work.
looked like a rotorary file was used to clean the top of the block.
I have not yet looked into the condition of the head.
The head will also get a good cleaning as well as surfaced.
But for now I'm working on getting the block back in shape.
Hopefully the block will be finished by the W/E and I can start re-assembly...
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douglasskemp

Quote from: High_Horse on October 02, 2007, 05:25:14 PMI think that once the gasket gets a little niche and begins to eat away that it becomes perpetual. Once the breech reaches close enough to the other cylinder then the gasket temp aides in corrosponding continuation of the gasket degredation and ultimatly failure in that channel like configuration.

Whoa there killer!  Some of us can't do those big words.   ;D
Well I think it happens because of the inverse of the quadrilateral being directly disproportionate to the square of the hypotenuse.  :lol:

No but seriously, Tony, I am glad the damage is not as severe as it could have been.  Just think about how many of these little cars went straight to the wrecking yard because of something that is relatively easy to fix if you have the tools & know-how to do it.

--Doug
The Pinto I had I gave to my brother. The car was originally my mom's, (78 red Pinto sedan with a 2.3 and a 4spd.) I am originally from Tucson, AZ but moved to Oxnard CA :D
I'm looking for a Pinto wagon with an automatic.

Pintony

Quote from: TIGGER on October 02, 2007, 11:32:25 PM
That's good news Pintony.  Hopefully everything checks out.  How did the temp motor do with the automatic? 
Hey Tigger,
The Green Pinto was not finished in time for the show...
So I will not be installing it.
The photo in the newspaper was from "Original 74" Dave's house taken by Cindy at the Tulsa meet...

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TIGGER

That's good news Pintony.  Hopefully everything checks out.  How did the temp motor do with the automatic? 
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

Pintony

Quote from: TIGGER on October 02, 2007, 02:03:17 PM
Pintony,

Have you got into the bottom end yet? 

Yes!!! The bore is perfect and the bearings show no signs of wear...
Hopefully I can just have the block decked and the head planed true to make a perfect mating surface. I'll re-use the pistons and bearings "after Checking them"
NEW rings and a good cleaning and right back into my Green Pinto.
There is NO ridge in the bore "see photo"
I will also have all my pistons checked for piston pin wear.
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Cookieboystoys

Quote from: Pintony on October 02, 2007, 09:19:36 PM
Is that the silver 79-80 that had the bad gasket???

Yep, changed it myself and still holds... can't really drive it, still need a drivers door.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Pintony

Quote from: Cookieboy on October 02, 2007, 10:20:10 AM
I know mine was overheat caused by a bad radiator leaking all the anti-freeze out.

Hey CookieBoy,
Yes! That gasket too is VERY ugly.
I think I remember your post about it...
Is that the silver 79-80 that had the bad gasket???
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High_Horse

Pintony,
   I had that happen to my 2.3 cruising wagon years ago. Except mine was between the 2 and 3 cylinders. I think it has to do with flame travel and the particular constant hot spots in the cylinder during cumbustion. I think that once the gasket gets a little niche and begins to eat away that it becomes perpetual. Once the breech reaches close enough to the other cylinder then the gasket temp aides in corrosponding continuation of the gasket degredation and ultimatly failure in that channel like configuration. Do I think there is a buildup of mineral deposits in that part of the water jacket that might have nurchered that failure along????....no. Do I think I know how to spell nurcher???...no. Considering the age of the car I wouldn't worry about it. How would I try to prevent it from happening again...Smear the gasket and mating surfaces down with copper anti-seize...sparingly,don't gob it on so the stuff squishes out all over. This will conduct temperatures in the head to case assembly to transfer more evenly instead of harboring hot spots. Remember that a gasket is basically an insulating material that is not used as and insulator...it is used as an isolator.

                                                                                                High_Horse
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

TIGGER

Quote from: Pintony on October 02, 2007, 09:49:28 AM
Heyu Tigger,
I think my blown gasket was caused by overheat???
What do U guys think caused your gasket to fail???
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Pintony, it is highly possible.  We overheated our 9-passenger station wagon about 18 years ago pulling a trailer (351C).  It blew both headgaskets.  The engine was toast after that.  My neighbor's Taurus (3.8L) did the same thing.  It overheated pretty good and blew a head gasket.

Have you got into the bottom end yet? 
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

dave1987

I don't think it being a 2.3 would cause it to blow. I have a 2.3 and the only time the head gasket has been changed on it was when I rebuilt the engine. I have a 4-speed tranny to, so over-reving happens at times which could potentially kill it to. So far so good though.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

77turbopinto

I think my problem was it is a 2.3.

Either that alone, or forced induction.

Bill
Thanks to all U.S. Military members past & present.

Cookieboystoys

I know mine was overheat caused by a bad radiator leaking all the anti-freeze out.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Pintony

Quote from: dave1987 on October 02, 2007, 03:39:59 AM
Yuck! What was the cause of that?

Heyu Tigger,
I think my blown gasket was caused by overheat???
What do U guys think caused your gasket to fail???
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Cookieboystoys

looks just like the one from the 80 I repaired in January
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

77turbopinto

Hey, I have one of those from the 2.3T in my tan car; looks JUST like that one.

Bill
Thanks to all U.S. Military members past & present.

dave1987

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Pintony

Hello Group,
Here is what I found so far...
Green Pinto engine...
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