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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Exhaust for 73 - Recommendations????

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Cookieboystoys

well a couple calls and more opinions and I think... I'll go w/the glass pack. sound difference between glass pack and resonator should be about the same but a resonator will be more expensive. Chance of failure for both is appox the same... but due to summer driving only it shouldn't be an issue for me either way. One person I talked to this morning who doesn't even like glass packs (failure reasons here in the north country) said if I was gonna do either go with a glass pack.

+ seems that most the votes here in this thread point to a glass pack setup as the most favored setup.

Glass Pack It Is!!!!

Thanks Much! for all the imput, your help is always welcome.

even you High Horse, I give you credit even if the wife doesn't  ;)
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Pintony

Quote from: High_Horse on February 02, 2007, 03:15:57 AM
Hello Pinto Guys, Don't listen to my husband because he does not know what he is talking about. Thank you.

                                                                                                                                     His_Highness_Horse

He knows more than most!!!!

High_Horse

Hello Pinto Guys, Don't listen to my husband because he does not know what he is talking about. Thank you.

                                                                                                                                     His_Highness_Horse
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

Pintony

Quote from: Cookieboy on February 01, 2007, 08:26:20 PM
High Horse... I like the new picture...

When I called the muffler shop the person I spoke to did suggest a resonator. I told him what was being suggested to me (glass pack) and that "The FordPinto Experts" were the ones I was getting the info from he was willing to bow to their expertize. I could tell however it wasn't his first choice. Then we got to talking about the whole glass pack failure issue and didn't talk about resonators again.

So now I wonder... would the resonator work better in my case (4 cyl w/header) than a glass pack for more bass and less noise for the driver. Also would the resonator be a more reliable solution than a glass pack...

Anybody have experience using both in similar situations? and what did you think?
Again I have to agree with SRT,
I had that system on my Purple Pinto Pre-Turbo and it sounded the best of any system now or in the 20+ years driving Pintos.
From Pintony

Cookieboystoys

High Horse... I like the new picture...

When I called the muffler shop the person I spoke to did suggest a resonator. I told him what was being suggested to me (glass pack) and that "The FordPinto Experts" were the ones I was getting the info from he was willing to bow to their expertize. I could tell however it wasn't his first choice. Then we got to talking about the whole glass pack failure issue and didn't talk about resonators again.

So now I wonder... would the resonator work better in my case (4 cyl w/header) than a glass pack for more bass and less noise for the driver. Also would the resonator be a more reliable solution than a glass pack...

Anybody have experience using both in similar situations? and what did you think?
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

High_Horse

This is one of my favorite topics aside from Carburation and Ignition. I would go with a large resonator as far forward as I could go then a turbo muffler back in the regular muffler mounting position. Why???? Because the fact that this exhaust system is prone to resonate that far back is in itself a testiment to how dynamically correct this exhaust design really is. The resonance is caused by a sonic shock wave caused by the chemical reaction that occurs during ignition. The ka-boom is caused by the explosion of the airfuel mixture. The resonator diffuses the sonic resonance via geometry, ergo using it's power against itself. The glass pack absorbs the shockwave with absobtion medium (fiberglass). What I did with ThunderPinto was to wrap my carryout pipes with a high heat insulating tape, two layers thick, and tight, from the exhaust manifolds down to the mufflers. Aprox. 3 feet. Goodby resonance and hello heatsheild. The icing on the cake was two v8 sized mufflers. So put in a 2.250" resonator up front and run 2" back to a v6 sized turbo muffler in back and that should meet or exceed your expectations. all the bass without the alto.

                                                                                                                 High_Horse
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

Cookieboystoys

OK... 2 inch pipe to glasspack w/perforated core to turbo muffler in stock location - we have the plan!

on the subject of glass packs failing... I asked the muffler guy and he said : Yes they do fail... main reason for early failure would be cold weather! heating them up and cooling them quickly will cause them to fail sooner than designed, water puddles will do this too. Muffler guy said it's mostly a regional thing... up north they usually fail quickly due to the cold weather and down south they should last much longer. Since I will not be driving this car in the winter I don't see it as a porblem in my case... if this was a daily driver and driven in the winter I wouldn't bother putting one on based on what he explained to me.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Pintony

Quote from: srt on January 31, 2007, 10:37:04 PM
sometimes when you have a long run of large diameter pipe and a small motor you will end up with a low  to mid rpm resonance that will fill the car with an annoying deep sound that can drown out most other sound.  the glass pack in that long exhaust pipe (assuming you use a muffler at the rear in the stock location) will absorb those resonating sound waves. a perforated core on the glasspack (as oppossed to a louvered core) will add very little to no additional backpressure to the system.   
I agree with SRT!!!!

Srt

i really think that unless you run the thing with the pedal to the floor all the time,  the 2" will be fine.  anything smaller and in my opinion you are cheating yourelf out of power and mileage
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Srt

sometimes when you have a long run of large diameter pipe and a small motor you will end up with a low  to mid rpm resonance that will fill the car with an annoying deep sound that can drown out most other sound.  the glass pack in that long exhaust pipe (assuming you use a muffler at the rear in the stock location) will absorb those resonating sound waves. a perforated core on the glasspack (as oppossed to a louvered core) will add very little to no additional backpressure to the system.   
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Cookieboystoys

I used to replace mufflers w/glass packs all the time in my younger days... they were cheeper but usually were much louder than mufflers, and they sounded "mean." I'm not really looking for loud but a little rumble would be nice as long as it's not overpowering...

what difference would I notice between 2" and 2.5" pipes... and would there be any advantage/disadvantage to preformance either way?
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

douglasskemp

On my 87 Mustang, I've got a 2.3, but I can't imagine there being much difference in sound, I am running 2.25" dia. pipe single system, to a 2.25" dia. cat and a 12" long 2.25" dia. glasspack behind the axle.  It gives a decent low tone without having the raspy ricer sound (I can't that stand either).  If you can fit it, I would go with a second glasspack in the system before the axle, which will cut down the resonances at low RPM, and cut out even more of the raspy ricer noise.

I have run glasspacks on every car or truck I have replaced the exhaust on, and loved the sound of them, and to those who say they burn out, yes they do, but considering the last set I had burn out were over 15 years old, I would say that they are more likely to rust off before then.  BTW, that burned out set was on a 72 Blazer that spent most of its life pulling a 9000 pound travel trailer up 8% grades in Northern AZ.  The next victim to get glasspacks will be the Kia.
The Pinto I had I gave to my brother. The car was originally my mom's, (78 red Pinto sedan with a 2.3 and a 4spd.) I am originally from Tucson, AZ but moved to Oxnard CA :D
I'm looking for a Pinto wagon with an automatic.

Cookieboystoys

SRT, only mods are the header and cyls bored .20 - all the rest is stock.

just to be sure I understood your suggestions correctly... 2" pipe, turbo muffler and the "2 inch core (perforated core) in between" that you refered to would be the same as what I'm calling a "glass pack"?

and the reason for the "in between" (or glass pack) I'm guessing is for a lower sounding rumble... and will tame it down a bit and perhaps enhance the sound a bit?

did I get it right?
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Srt

 :q:does the motor have stock cam?  has the head been cut?  the carb been rejetted? the distributer recurved?  if not then i would use nothing less than 2" pipe.  a turbo type muffler at rear and maybe a small at least 2" core (perforated core) in between if the low speed resonance is too much.  if  you have an aftermarket cam or any of the other mods then i believe you should go with an even larger pipe size-2 1/4"
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Cookieboystoys

Any suggestions on size of pipe or what for muffler...

Here's the motor setup... stock carb, intake, head, block was bored .20 and rebuilt. See picture for the header that is installed...

I want it to have a low rumble that is not over powering and I don't want it to sound like a rice burner, Low pitch is best. Lot to ask for out of a 4 cyl but I hope to get as close to a V8 rumble as I can.

Pintony has suggested (as I recall) a 1.75 pipe to a glass pack and then a turbo muffler out the back.

Any other suggestions?
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!