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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

The Redrocket, my 1978 Pinto project.

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78pinto

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78pinto

Can't, we will be building a chassis for my buddies car...only has one frame jig....maybe next years project!! ::)
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turbopinto72

Yeah, might as well, you have all winter to build it....... :angel:
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

78pinto

at this point....i might as well throw a tube chassis in it!
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turbopinto72

Geez Jeff, you might as well front half it, you have most the work done. Then buy a one piece front end and tilt it foreward. ;D ;D :devil:
Brad F
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78pinto

and still more pics..
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78pinto

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78pinto

I'm pretty sure most of the Pinto is now in my basement....and my wife is ok with this!  Front end is off, dash is out..stripped down, sanded and ready for paint, firewall is partially cut out, interior is stripped out....my god what have i done?!
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78pinto

i've also decided i'm going to order a new hood from http://www.up22.com/amx68.htm when the time comes, i'll post how it looks and the quality of it when it arrives.
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Gaslight

Quote from: 71hotrodpinto on September 02, 2006, 10:00:40 AM
It would be more than that at 1/4. 1/2 14 NPT has a thread every .071 thou.Thats about  3.5 threads if you want to get technical.  But i would used 3/4 npt and make it larger.. If it only had a couple Thats all you need. Being a tapered thread as NPT's are, they just get tighter the farther you thread anyways. Not like straight threads where the depth of the thread has to be at least 1x the DIA of thread.
   How much pressure we talking about holding anyways? 18-20 PSI??? not like were looking at holding 300 PSI.
Robert

  Robert,

  True about the threads if you use a taper pipe.  Which I would imaging he would.  But to get the correct tightness I would want a few more threads than 3.5.  It actually works out to 2.7 when you factor in the lead for the thread unless you want to fight it.  It also not just the pressure buy the vibration from the motor with the lines hanging off that will cause more problems.  The ones I make here are 3/8 thick on the thinest ones we make and we machine in a raised area for the threads that equals 1" think.  I think you are tempting fate.  I would have someone weld a bung on those holes before they get tapped.

Jake
My new answering machine message:   
"I am not available right now, but thank you for caring enough to call.
I am making some changes in my life.  Please leave a message after the beep.
If I do not return your call, you are one of the changes."

71hotrodpinto

Hey i just realized its in CANADA!! HMMM Sounds like and omen here!! LOL


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71hotrodpinto

 It would be more than that at 1/4. 1/2 14 NPT has a thread every .071 thou.Thats about  3.5 threads if you want to get technical.  But i would used 3/4 npt and make it larger.. If it only had a couple Thats all you need. Being a tapered thread as NPT's are, they just get tighter the farther you thread anyways. Not like straight threads where the depth of the thread has to be at least 1x the DIA of thread.
   How much pressure we talking about holding anyways? 18-20 PSI??? not like were looking at holding 300 PSI.
Robert


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B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

Gaslight

How thick is that plate?  It looks like it is setup for 1/2 pipe threads but even if its 1/4 thick that is going to only leave you with a couple of threads in the plate.

Jake
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If I do not return your call, you are one of the changes."

71hotrodpinto

 Heres the CSR plate i was talking about for the possible Remote water pump setup. Its used but has the round holes for tapping  the NPT threads . What size i dont know. But its chreap and red!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/5-0-302-351w-CSI-CSR-ELECTRIC-WATER-PUMP-BACKING-PLATE_W0QQitemZ140024352072QQihZ004QQcategoryZ33604QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

78pinto

yes she has a sister....hates cars though...  I'll post pictures as i go, not 100% sure on what i'm going to do yet...but twin turbos has entered my mind a few times.  Maybe have to sell off my single setup. I'm also considering a ladder bar set up.
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71hotrodpinto

Are you sure we coulndt trade our wifes for a while while im working on my project ??????
Huh? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE???

:ih8u:
LOL just kidding!
Hey thats ultra cool! NOW you know you wont get away for a whole winter without posting pictures and showing us some ideas you have concerning how your going to route the turbo plumming, intercooler , new color of the car . interior ideas EtC ETC  And dont forget the shiny rule !! LOL.
NEED INPUT!!   
NEED THE INFO!!
Have fun !!
(seriously though does your wife have a sister???? LOL )


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

78pinto

The 408 is out...rebuilt and sold, my season is done. On a high note, the wife (she IS great ;D) and i decided the Pinto won't be out till it's completely done, body, paint, engine, interior, ect. Whenever it is done ...is when it'll see the light of day again. We are figuring 12-15K in investment (Canadian money) and a summertime completion next year hopefully. Stay tuned!
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High_Horse

My wife and the Galaxie 500 did not get along to well together at first. Now she says she wants to cruise around in it. Should I be jealous??? Ha!!! Ya wanna see a woman hate a car get one of those old caddys with the two big bullets sticking out in front of it. Ha!!!!!!
                                                                                             High_Horse
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

pintojoeII

shot you shoud hear the crap i hear about it i sold the car 3 years ago and bought it back last year from the same guy.can we say world war 3

71hotrodpinto

Quote from: 78pinto on August 20, 2006, 12:58:07 PM
yes you can use my name lol!  Good thing my wife loves the car also or i'd be in big trouble with the money i spend/spent!

well now i envy your car and your marraige. :-\
My wife hates the car.  >:(  I shouldve married someone who understands the hobbie and what tinkering with cars can mean to some men. ( like us ). If i had a dollar for every fight that came about from the, car id be a millonare.

hell once this thing is physicaly running im probably never going to be " allowed " to spend another dime on it.  SIGH !!
You got a couple of gems on your hands there. Hope you know how lucky you are.


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

78pinto

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gpinto2

Holy Buh-jesus Jeff!!!! Keep on Pinto-izing and will have a fly that thing instead of driving it!!!
1972 Pinto 410,C-4

78pinto

yes you can use my name lol!  Good thing my wife loves the car also or i'd be in big trouble with the money i spend/spent!  The tubes are just atached to the firewall, i put them in when i cut out the inner fenders to give the front end a little more stiffness, they seem to work fine.  No roll cage, too hard for the kids to get in and out, and the insurance company frowns on them.  I made them myself with a cheap pipe bender. I don't notice my headers hitting the ground at all, i have adjustable coilovers in the front and good shocks and thats half the battle right there.  I also don't drive like a wildman on rough roads or over R/R tracks.  You have plenty of room there i think, should be no problems with those headers.
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71hotrodpinto

Hey jeff, ( may i call you jeff? LOL)
I was looking through the old posts and man youve spent some time and $$ on this.
Can i ask about the tubular re-enforcment in the engine compartment? what is it attached to? Just the firewall? or do you have a cage now? Did you notice a big improvement in stiffness? Were they made up ?Did you bend them up yourself or were they a bought and modified peice?  I know 20 questions. :lol:


Oh just to finish my header pics ( bragging lol :lol: ) i was noticing the lack of ground clearance on the headers you used to run.The reason i went through all the trouble to do my headers that way is because of ground clearance. See what you think.


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

71hotrodpinto

good tip! :).
If i was to do it again, id use a tig welder. Just need the $$$$ for even a cheap one. OR what i couldve done is tacked it together and then paid a pro to tig it.


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

Srt

oxy/acetylene, an '0' or '00' tip with the pressure tuned down and a #7 mild steel copper coated rod in 3/32" dia. will last as long as an other weld and will not need nearly as much grinding
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

71hotrodpinto

 I have the 289-302 version but here is the 351w version Copynpasted from the Milodon website.

Pan Capacity is 8 Qts. Plus Filter -
83/4" Sump Depth, 9" Sump Length, 11" Sump Width


http://www.milodon.com/main.htm

351W 30926 

Oil Pump and Pick-Up Required:

Pick-Up 18365   
Oil Pump Shaft 22560   
Oil Pan Gasket 40350   
Windage Tray 32215   
Tray Install Kit 81167   



95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

78pinto

good work! Looks awesome. What part number is your pan, i need a larger one also. thanks
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71hotrodpinto

As for the headers they are FULLY modified nos Mustang II Blackjack/Cyclone headers.
I re-routed one tube around the steering shaft (cable) and then moved another tube that that one interfered. Shortend up the header so they wouldn't hang so low, then re-welded some new collectors on. The pass side I could have left alone but it was pointing to the trans, and #3 was kinked severely. So i replaced #3 and then shortend the header,and repointed all the tubes straight back and put on the new collector. WHEW!! I shouldve just built some new ones from mandrel bends in retrospect and also have gotten a  mig gas kit for my welder instead of my sheilded wire , but i got it done none-the-less.
Lets see. $250+ shipping for the headers, another $75 in bends, $35 for the collectors, 6 weekends, another $200 for coating, OUCH couldve almost built new 1 5/8 stainless ones for that. (well, except i cant weld the stainless with my welder)
Well were gettin off topic here LOL , Cant wait to see some layouts of your turbo in the engine compartment!!
Im thinking........ HMMMMMMM.!!!!




95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

71hotrodpinto

Thanks, its been way too much money (for my income, 2 kids and living in SOCAL ) and too much time but i think it will be worth it.
Csr has a plate that already MIGHT work, but it has oval holes in it which might prevent the tapping of a 3/4 npt. Maybe a 1. npt might work though but im not sure.

If so for braided line youd have to use AN16 $$Big bucks$$ Theres always EBAY. LOL . I picked up the AN12 lines with the fittings for $65 on ebay. Used Nascar Stuff.

As for the pump id use either a CSR remote OR a Meziere remote. I think the Meziere has some higher flow rates ,but ive heard people running CSRs with no issues on the regular engine mounted ones.


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil