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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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turbopinto72

 I used the stock unit but added an extra fuel entry point at the ( end) of the rail giving it a 2 point fuel entry and 1 return. I used a Paxton fuel regulator and a 930, 255 gpm pump.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

oldkayaker

On the problem of the number one cylinder running lean, I was wondering if the stock fuel rail is still being used?  With size 52 injectors, there is about 50% more fuel needed.  The stock rail gets its delivery at the rear (farthests from #1).  All the other injectors including the fuel return take fuel from the rail before it reaches the number one cylinder.  If the fuel rail has been upgraded, never mind.
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

78pinto

110mph, that should be about a mid 12,s or a bit lower in the quarter mile! I ran 12.7 at 106....are you getting any traction?  What was your 60ft time?  Mine was 1.777 with no tire spin using 26X10.5X15 M/T ET streets.
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Killer74

I take it back....I ran 13.88 @110 after I put the 8" rear, and traction bars.

The 3.55 gears were in my little rearend and I kept breaking axles. I was running low 14's with the 3.55's cuz I couldn't build boost in 1st. I was able to spray (75 shot) that motor into the 12's

the only mods I had then were a good MSD, volvo IC, and 18 psi. That was with the IHI. I haven't got a good pass out of the new combo yet :-\

I'm about to throw a tarp over it and forget about it for a while!
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*77 351w Turbo Pinto (still in the works)

SVOwagon

Great now I don't know what to do. (gears)  From my experience, with the 3.55s the car wouldn't make boost in 1st, but it seems to me that my car should be in the 13s and all I can think of is that the gears are holding me back.  When your car ran 13s, can you  list the mods that were done to your car at that time. And, how did the car react when you change the gears to 3.00. Thanks
SVOwagon
80 2.3 EFI Turbo Pinto Squire Wagon
91 Mustang LX 5.0 (93 Cobra clone project)
82 Mustang GT (built 460)
89 Mustang LX coupe (built 302)
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Killer74

Brad, thinking about your post on the gutted upper. I don't see how it would cause the #1 to run lean. The bottom runners are equal aren't they? And with the injectors at the cyl. shorter runners would be the ones to lean out wouldn't they?

I've actualy run a holley 600 and a plate NOS kit on top of a stock lower intake and never had a problem.

the #1 cyl is furthest away from the fuel supply so if you had a volume or pressure problem #1 would be affected.


Just some ideas ;)
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Killer74

Hmmmm....I had a Volvo intercooler on board. My car seemed to like the 3.00 gears better....I was able to boost in 1st.
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SVOwagon

OK....Thats it >:(..I'm putting the 3.55s back in. Killer74, is there anything else you can tell me that would help me get into the 13s?  I have more mods on the way, but would like to see 13s with the way the car is now...(after I but the 3.55s back in that is)
  SVOwagon
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91 Mustang LX 5.0 (93 Cobra clone project)
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Killer74

I ran high 13's in my 74 with a 160k mile TC motor and an IHI set at 15psi. It was on BFG's with 3.55's.
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turbopinto72

 Yes put the 3:55s back in. your 35 lb injectors need to be like 45s or even 52s. Mine are 52s and need to be like 72s. Now, a word on gutted ported intakes. I am CONVENCED that a gutted intake will kill the motor. Yes I will say it again. A gutted intake will kill the motor. I know this becouse of the melted #1 piston sitting in my 2.5 right now. I feel that becouse of the longer runner to the #1 chamber, that if you use a gutted upper and especially rotate it forward the #1 chambe WILL run lean ( check you pulgs ) My #1 plug was allways a little cleaner than all the rest but I didnt know how badly it was running lean ( and I had all my injectors ballanced by RC Engenering) IF I had it all to do again I would have left the Intake ported ( gasket matched ) and not gutted anything. I dont think there is anyone who can tell you that they gained X hp simply by gutting the upper. If I were you I would put a ranger roller cam in it with an adjustable cam pulley, port the snot out of an E6 ex manifold ( i.e. being able to stick a 5/8 wrench thru the #4 ex port and pulling it out of the turbo flange) get that 3" ex system on it and think seriously about a chip of some kind. also, if you can try and find some 103 unleaded to take the edge off the detonation when the thing gets hot.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

SVOwagon

It's not pinging (detonating) anymore, just if I try to run more then 15 psi.   If I back the timing off (don't know what it is set at right off hand) and added more boost, will that help any?   Kind of like the way your 2.5 is. I'm running the stock 35 injectors. So you are saying to put the 3.55s back in? Ok here is a run down.  MSD 255 in-line pump, SVO .60/.48 T3, Gutted and ported intake, 94 5.0 throttle body, mild port E6, LA3, 88 T/C intercooler ( not helping much, no hood scoop) 3.00 posi, 15 psi, 215/60/14 BFG drag radials, K&N filter, big VAM....I would think all of this would be good for at least low 14 to high 13. What do you think?  I know my driving needs some help...but I'm no rookie..I've been driving the hell out of this thing for about a year and a half.
SVOwagon
80 2.3 EFI Turbo Pinto Squire Wagon
91 Mustang LX 5.0 (93 Cobra clone project)
82 Mustang GT (built 460)
89 Mustang LX coupe (built 302)
83 Ranger
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turbopinto72

 If you are pinging ( or more like detonating ) you cant run more timing. I would back off the timing a little. I think stock is 10* adv at 1000 rpm. I run my 2.5 at 6* advance and 20 lbs boost.  What you realy need is to get more fuel in that thing. Want injectors are you running? If you dont have the fuel you cant have the boost. As far as gears I would leave the 3:55s in it and forget it for a long time. There is more to be gained in the motor than with gears right now.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

SVOwagon

Well I guess I did jump the gun a little, :-X    Do you think I should put different gears in?  My boost is only at 15...pinges like hell if I go higher, even with 93 in the tank. I just got my 3" done and not had time to run it yet. Maybe that will help a little. I'm thinking the gears are holding me back. I would like the wagon to run faster before I start really digging into the motor.
One more thing about the boost, is it better to have more boost and less timing...or more timing and less boost?
SVOwagon
80 2.3 EFI Turbo Pinto Squire Wagon
91 Mustang LX 5.0 (93 Cobra clone project)
82 Mustang GT (built 460)
89 Mustang LX coupe (built 302)
83 Ranger
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turbopinto72

First off, weight gives. My car weighs 2380 with 3/4 tank of gas and a 6 point rollbar. The early runs did not have the bar so It weighed about 2300 lbs. Im thinking that is probably lighter than a wagon by about 100 lbs or so. There is a tenth right there. Next is the 60ft time  On my 13.29 sec 1/4 mile et I ran a dismal 2.03 60ft, but my guess is if you are having a tough time building boost your 60 ft times are lousy. I do have an innercooler and I did run 17/18 lbs of boost. Dont know what you are running but every lb of boost is about 10 hp. I did have an adjustable cam pully which I had set at 8* retard. I also had a 3" exhaust system. The day I thru a rod I ran a best of 13.10 @ 102.58. and a 1.9 60 ft. I did a lot of tuning on that motor so it was not right out of the box. As a matter of fact my first run was a 14.79 @ 96.25 mph spinning the tires to a 2.44 60ft but the second run was a 13.66@ 98 and a 2.03 60ft time. Any way, Id would be more than happy to help with your combo If I can.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

SVOwagon

72,   What did you do to your "stock" 84 motor to get into the 13's?    I don't want to piss you off or anything, but I find it VERY hard to believe that it ran low 13's.  I've done some work (not much) to my 88 T/C motor and I'm running mid to high 14's.  I also am running a 5 speed and drag radials. I did have 3.55s , but with the shitty first gear in the trans, I changed to 3.00.   With the 3.55s, the motor revved so quickly off the line, that the turbo couldn't even build boost. I found that the car went faster if I started out in second gear. That is way I went with the 3.00 gears. Anyway.....even when I had the 3.55s in the car, it was nowhere near 13s....what gives?
 SVOwagon
80 2.3 EFI Turbo Pinto Squire Wagon
91 Mustang LX 5.0 (93 Cobra clone project)
82 Mustang GT (built 460)
89 Mustang LX coupe (built 302)
83 Ranger
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turbopinto72

Well, that depends on a lot of things. My 72, with a stock 84 SVO motor ran low 13s with a 5speed trans and BFG Drag radials and 3:55 gear. The same car now runs low 11s. You car will weigh more so that will affect your ET.  Dont count on going out to the track and ripping off 13s with out going through a lot of trial and error becouse it take some time to get the bugs out.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Gerald

Thanks  turbopinto 72 .     I have another ?    What  will a 75 pinto run with the turbo in it.  Just looking 4 a guess .   I have alot of diffrent  gears that i can go with so gears will be up to my choice .                  

turbopinto72

 HUH, well, thats about a full page for your answer SO, Ill do the short version ( for now). First off to do the 2.3 turbo ( EFI version) you will need a donor wire loom, computer and sensors. The pinto harness will not work at all ( in place of ) the EFI wire loom. To get a BUNCH of info on the install go to www.turboford.org
and search this topic.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Gerald

I just need to know what i need to put a 2.3 turbo in my pinto i just got it.  I am installing a 2.3 4 speed now so i can drive it for now but i want to go with a turbo 5 speed and i need to know if i can go turbo without useing the wiring out of the t-bird and use the factory pinto harness. Or just any info i have seen a few turbo t-birds but i have never seen a pinto changed over  so any help would be great .  Thanks

turbopinto72

A fuel Cell would be perferable, however I am using the stock tank modifyed for -6 line on my 2.5 turbo car and it workes fine but dont let it get lower than 1/4 tank or it will start to starve. Im going to be using the Summit Pro Street with foam and sender pt#sum-290108 ( make sure it has a ford sender) for my Pangra Project.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Felix Wankel

What do you suggest for a fuel system? Sumping the stock tank, a fuel cell, etc.?

My car won't be street driven often, so using a cell isn't a big deal for me.
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Any ideas or tips on putting a 85 ford 2.8 V-6 in a 71 pinto with little or no effort?? Ha Ha .Really if you know anyone or have parts list required we would thank you......don
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turbopinto72

Not that Im an expert on all turbo applications but I have built a few. Also knowlagable in 71-73 Pinto's and as for Pangras I can help you out there also. If I cant help Im sure I can find someone who can.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto