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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Turbo Pinto HELP

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rkk

I am in about the same stage as you on my project.  Anything I learn I will pass on.  I am going with the 8" rearend which looks fairly simple and the T5 for a transmission, but that is purely my preference.  I have used C4s on other project cars and they work great.  There is all kinds of good stuff you can buy for them to make them perform great.  Keep in touch and let me know how it goes.  Like I said I am in the same stage.
The guys on this site are great they have all the right answers.  That is where I got most of my info.
1976 TURBO PINTO
1969 AMC AMX not a pinto, but I like it, fast for not being a FORD (It's different just like a PINTO)

4R11y

Thanks Bill for the info,

I just pulled the engine and tranny from the 87 turbocoupe today. I see the plug on the block you are refering to right where it should be for a front sump.  After I got the motor out today I looked it over good.  The basic engine block is pretty much the same as my 74 block making the conversion appear easier than originally thought .  I now have to tackle the rest of the engine harness and computer which will be easier with the motor pulled. I think I will stay with my C4 for now.  Less modification involved and I have read about built up cars running great with the C4 after a couple of mods.

On another note, the turbocoupe donor car seems to have been a really nice car when it was newer.  It has all the bells and whistles like auto ride control, moon roof, Premium stereo, and power everything.  The only reason I don't feel that bad about stripping it is because it was already neglected and I like my Pinto better. 

Thanks again,
4R11y

77turbopinto

Oilpan, dipstick (+ tube), and pump: all pinto (I used a new pump for a t/c). The block has two dipstick holes, one for front sump, one rear. With the pan off, pop the plug and move it to the rear hole.

The tranny question: what you like.

The engine power difference is in the computer/stuff, the basic engine items (block, head, intake...) are the same.

An 8" rear from a pinto/bobcat/mustangII will bolt in, those others will need to be modified.

If you want the hood to shut without cutting or lifting, read my posts.


Bill
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4R11y

Fellow Pintonians,

I am trying to sort out some issues I have relating to a turbo conversion I am in the beginning phases of.  If anyone can offer an opinion and some sound advise I would greatly appreciate it.  I have done a lot of reading on this topic and feel comfortable with most aspects of the project ahead of me.  It seems the possibilities for a good reliable and fun to drive car are endless and only limited by my average mechanical ability and budget.

I have a running 87 Turbocoupe with manual T5 tranny and LA3 computer complete with all electrical and related plumbing as the donor car.  My questions are.  What is involved with converting a rear sump oil pump and dipstick arangement to a front sump oil pump and dip stick arrangement? I still have the original 2.3 in the 74 runabout.  Second, my 74 Pinto has a C4 auto with less than 4000 miles on a complete overhaul which worked flawlessly until I parked the Pinto in 2003. Since I am planning on keeping the 74 Pinto street legal and registered in Maryland with modest upgrades to the turbo 2.3. Would changing over my C4 auto Pinto to the T5 manual be worth the effort in terms of any performance improvementsr?  When I drove the turbo coupe, the 2.3 and T5 was a nice driving combination without modifications and would probably be even nicer in a smaller car like my 74.  The specs I have seen on the turbocoupe show as much as 50 horse power difference between manual and auto transmission.  I am also planning on a 8.8 or 9.0 rear axle upgrade in my 74 for reliability.       


Thanks
4R11Y

77turbopinto

As far as the wiring, I did little trimming of the tc harness, and none on the pinto one. You need a bunch of wires from the t/c harness to read all the sensors in that thing, and some reallly should be soldered if cut for any reason (low voltage). Take your time, not too many wires in each harness need to be connected to each other anyway, don' let it scare you.

Bill
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MikeSVO

There probably isn't a transmission that came from the factory in any Pinto that could tolerate a mildly modded 2.3t.  If you put it in bone stock without an intercooler and don't upgrade anything else, you might be OK.  But really, look for an 87+ N/A 5-speed T5 if you want to be sure that it'll be OK.  They're cheap. 

As for the wiring, I don't know what that harness is like, from the Cougar.  I know the XR harness is pretty simple and could be pared down quite a bit.  I didn't alter the Pinto wiring in any way on my car, aside from the battery cables and the wire that connects to the ignition coil (and that just goes to the new coil). 

STpinto

I am going to follow this with great interest, I just got  a 2.3 EFI turbo unit from an '85 Cougar, along with trans, computer and most of the harness. I couldn't take the time to un-ravel that mess that goes down in behind the steering column. Does anyone know if I can just  shop-make the rest of my harness? Just test-light it and find a way to get to the ignition switch and coil and regulator? This may be a little more than I can do, but I don't know how much luck I'll have finding a sympathetic mechanic who wants to put in the time to do it. SAM
Keep on Keepin on

rkk

As you have read I haven't done my swap yet.  But one of my questions was about the stock 4 speed.  If it will hold up to the power, which it sounds like it will.  One of the things I have done is install a Racer Walsh shifter.  If the shifter is the weak link, this thing will solve it.  It is billet and has a great short shift pattern.
1976 TURBO PINTO
1969 AMC AMX not a pinto, but I like it, fast for not being a FORD (It's different just like a PINTO)

MikeSVO

Yeah, I thought the stock driveshaft would have fit into the 8".  It wouldn't fit into the T5, though.  I won't be keeping this stock for too long, and I don't expect that the stock Pinto tranny would have lived long.  I have a Holset waiting to go on, but I'm not going to use it until I have the thing running WELL with the stock setup.  As it is, I think the fuel pump I'm using is junk.  It'll go up to about 55 psi under full throttle/boost and hold for a second, then just fall off really quickly, to about 30 psi. 

To go along with the Holset I'll be putting in a big ole frontmount at some point.  Because of that, I'm already planning to rotate the intake.  Once I do that, the stock hood will clear just fine.  I do NOT want to cut up the stock hood (I'll bet that would be a fun thing to replace...)

This weekend, I'm going to be working on the suspension and brakes.  I have a set of lowering blocks for the back, a front sway bar and springs, a rear swaybar that'll be a retro-fit job and then maybe some front calipers and rotors, too.  Long story, but I got a TON of parts available to me. 

77turbopinto

Mike and RKK, I used the stock 77 driveshaft with the 8" rear and stock pinto tranny. As for the hood, I listed details (carbbed turbo) on how to install the engine with no hood issues using ford parts (non-rotated upper). Keep that sleeper look.

Bill
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78pinto

** Jeff (78Pinto) is Missing from us but will always be a part of our community- We miss you Jeff **

rkk

Sorry I am new to this site, so I am still learning.  How do I get to carbed pinto?  Is it in the general help section?
1976 TURBO PINTO
1969 AMC AMX not a pinto, but I like it, fast for not being a FORD (It's different just like a PINTO)

77turbopinto

Check out my posts here in "carbed turbo", lots of info and pics. Let me know if you need more.


Bill
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MikeSVO

Actually, the stick comes up about 2" closer to the dash.  It's a little wierd at first (with the TALL factory shifter, that is), and you DO have to trim the tranny tunnel hole about 1.5" to get it in without hitting anything. 

Believe me, I wouldn't let that stuff stop you from putting a stick in.  It really was easy. 

rkk

Thanks for the help guys.  I really appreciate it.  I have access to a 85 turbo coupe and Merkur.  Sounds like the Merkur is the way to go considering the wiring harness.  I have been thinking about going to a automatic for ease of installation, but really want a stick.  But reading your comments it sounds like the stick wouldn't be that bad from a installation stand point. 
If you use the T5 does the shifter come up in the same place as the Pinto 4 speed?
Glad I found this website, sounds like there is a lot of expertise out there.
Again Thanks
1976 TURBO PINTO
1969 AMC AMX not a pinto, but I like it, fast for not being a FORD (It's different just like a PINTO)

MikeSVO

I just put a 2.3 turbo into a 71. The Turbo Coupe wiring isn't the easiest way to go, but it'll do if it's what you have. Merkur wiring harnesses are easier to pull out at the junkyard.

The stock rears won't last, especially if you get your 2.3 running like it should. My SVO with just exhaust, some home porting and a fuel pressure regulator put down 304 ft/lbs. It's not too hard to get good power out of 'em!

The 89 Mustang rear is going to be a chore to put in. It's wider and doesn't have the spring perches that it'll need.

I wouldn't bother with the stock 4 speed either, since an 87+ 4-cylinder 5 speed is a pretty solid tranny and is common and cheap.

Basically, I used about 5 different sources for the wiring. Go to the swap/publications section of www.turboford.org, and look there. You'll find a LOT of helpful stuff (use the search button). Also, there's a Haynes manual for 79-93 Mustangs which is helpful, since a lot of the turbo 4 wiring is similar to the non-turbo 4 wiring. There's the Alan Slocum book, which has all the pinouts and assorted info for all the turbo EEC-IV computers and sensors, and that was REALLY helpful.

Beyond that, there are a few other helpful things... The alternator bracket for the early 2.3 Mustangs and Pintos puts it about where the power steering is on a T-Bird. That's a nice piece to have if you want to rotate your upper intake for a frontmount I/C. 

I put in an 8-gallon fuel cell and actually used the factory metal lines to run up to the fuel rail and back. I just connected everything with fuel injection line and clamps. Ghetto, I know, but I'll get around to fixing it sometime. Those f'n turbo coupe fuel lines are a PITA to work with.  

For the engine placement, I had to swap mounts. Assuming you guys are smarter than I and are using a 74+ car, you won't have to do that. In my case, the stock 4-speed crossmember worked with the T5 tranny, though I had to drill 2 holes to make the tranny mount bolt into it. The 8" I got was from a 76 Mustang II V8, and completely bolted right in. To connect those two items, I was told a Fox Mustang driveshaft would fit perfectly. That's only half true... I got a 90 5.0 driveshaft and it DIDN'T work because there's a flange you have to take off the u-joint to bolt it into the 8", and the U-joint was too big. So I took the driveshaft out of my SVO and pulled off the flange, and IT'S u-joint went into the 8". The 90 5.0 driveshaft fit into the SVO because the flange acted as an adapter. IOW- You need an early Fox driveshaft to make it work. I don't know exactly what year the change was, but I'll guess that any pre-87 Fox Stang driveshaft will go in.

The speedo cable for my 71 Pinto went right into the 87 Turbo Coupe T5. I used the original clutch cable, too. The throttle cable was too short, so I had to get one from a Fox Mustang with a non-turbo 4. I used the original radiator, but it's a VERY close fit. On my 71, the hood won't totally clear the intake, so I'll be changing the intake sometime so I can keep a totally flat hood. For the time being, I put some spacers between the hood and hood hinges, which jacks up the back of the hood enough to clear (only needs about an inch or so).

The car runs right now, but I'm by no means 'finished'. I have a tiny little underdrive pulley on it, and I don't think that with the stock radiator and alternator is a good idea. I have no cooling fan right now. The brakes need more work, etc... A cage is going in too, since this thing is a total deathtrap right now...haha... I have a set of 10-hole LX Mustang rims on it, and with the 2.3t swap and those tires, it weighs 2280 (it's a Runabout).

Good luck and ask any questions!  

-Mike

crazyhorse

The Tranny will bolt up, as for hold up? I really couldn't tell you for sure. If you've got acess to a 5spd I'm SURE it'll hold up better. If you've already got  8" Rear end it'd be in your best interest to go ahead & put it in. You'd be putting it in sooner or later anyways.
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rkk

thanks for the response.  Anything you learn please pass it on.
1976 TURBO PINTO
1969 AMC AMX not a pinto, but I like it, fast for not being a FORD (It's different just like a PINTO)

econoaddict

I am getting ready to do the same swap.
I have an 84 turbo coupe (complete) for engine, trans and electrical donor
and plan on using the rear out of my 89 stang.
I haven't unbolted anything as of yet, still getting the shop setttled and fixed up.
I found most of the answers I needed just searching here.
Not sure if your bellhousing will bolt up or not.
'75 pinto very soon to have
302, C4, maverick rear

rkk

I want to put a t-bird turbo coupe motor into my Pinto.  Has any one done this?  Any help would be appreciated.  I think I have the general info.  But how much of the t-bird wiring harness do you need?  Will the Pinto 4 speed bolt up and hold up?  I have a 8" rearend ready to go in or will the stock rear work okay? it has been converted to 5 lug front and back.  Any and all info I would be grateful, especially from some one who has done the swap.  THANKS
1976 TURBO PINTO
1969 AMC AMX not a pinto, but I like it, fast for not being a FORD (It's different just like a PINTO)