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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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sagesunrise

Sound system upgrade was successful. Very nice. Now for the carpet...
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

sagesunrise

The monster fur/hair arrived a few weeks ago, black with dark purple throughout.The fur strands are one-and-a-half to 2" long. I am having my sound system upgraded tomorrow and next month the black shag carpet will be installed.Thought it wise to have the sound system wiring run before installing the carpet. I'll post pics once the carpet is installed and then again when the fur is installed. Still looking for weather stripping for both driver and passenger doors if anyone has any connections.
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

dirt track demon

You're welcome. The strap doesnt cover lightning, but they do work for static electricity. ;D.  I've had a few cars where I got zapped every time I got out of them, I'm a cheap-skate so I just ran a piece of wire, and I didn't get zapped anymore.  Good luck and have a zap-free day.
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

sagesunrise

Dirt Track,
Nope, haven't tried the black light but what a GROOVY idea! Maybe down the road I can put a black light in the back area somewhere. So would that strap really help the issue? Never heard of that. Does that mean that if I get struck by lightning with that dangler strap that it won't get me?? :D Thanks for your input. I am going to have a lot of fun with the interior as soon as I have cash to buy the rest.
Tif
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

dirt track demon

Hey, you can avoid electrocution by installing some grounding straps, I think you can still get them at napa, if not im pretty sure they still sell them at Jc whitney. they just clip to the under-carriage somewhere and dangle to the ground, all youre pent up energy goes thru them to the ground instead of thru you!!  Or you can cheapy cheapy your way out by just running a piece of heavy gauge speaker wire off the bottom of your car somewhere, as long as its just long enough to touch the ground when you're stopped. 
 
  Have you tried your monster fur samples under a blacklight yet?
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

Pintony

If you want to see Pintos on the tube "Night Stalker" is the ticket.  Lots of Ponys on that show.
GEESH it is HOT outside almost 10:00PM and and still over 90 Deg.
only 10 more days untill the show in St Louis. Tick Tick Tick
I might pull an all nighter tonight.
Sure wish my BIG fan had not burned up.
From Pintony

sagesunrise

Nope. Never was much into the boob tube. Did watch some CHiPS, though! 8)
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

Pintony

Hello Sagesunrise,
Your obviously NOT a Trekie! ;D
From Pintony

sagesunrise

Hey Tony, when you say Tribels are you talking regalia?

crazyhorse, I don't really want to clip the hair, it's just that the monster fur is more "nappy" and I like that better than the hairy stuff, but I like them both. It will still look nice.

High Horse, I do have a bunch of pics of my car on the previous pages of this post. I just recently snapped a couple interior (not much interior to speak of at this point) photos that I will have developed and put on a CD so I can put some on the site. There is a pic of my favorite part of the interior, my shifter :D , posted herein. Here is a picture my buddy snapped behind my back. Sorry it doesn't really show the real interior, but it's fun nevertheless.

I probably won't have any back seaters and the static spray is a good idea. Or I could just rub the fur down with a fabric softener sheet, it will smell good too!

I think I will do the fur myself, but am having the seats custom covered by a professional and the carpet/headliner installed by a professional. I didn't want to mess with the headliner cause I want it done right so it doesn't flop down on me when I am driving. :o That would not be good.
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

Pintony

If you have any monster fur left over???
You can make tribels! ;D
From Pintony

High_Horse

Hey Sagesunrise.........Your static electricity thing can be minimized by getting a can of Anti-Static spray from an electronic componant store or Maybe Radioshack.
And also I like the fur thing. I did a fur roof liner in my 89 Jimmy and it is nice. Please......photos are good. Did you post any pics of your car? Are you doing this work yourself?
                                                                                                              High_Horse
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

crazyhorse

believe it or not, you can use a set of "clippers" or sheep shears to get that monster hair, down to monster fur. As for the extra "energy" as long as your not sitting on it it SHOULDN'T give you any troubles. That being said, anyone who does sit on it will mist likely have a hair raising experience & more shocking fun that you can shake a stick at! I'd never have thought to use fur in my interior, but as my interior is FINALLY done, it's a tad late to change my mind LOL
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sagesunrise

The monster fur will be custom and the idea came from yours truly. I don't think I can help you with a dash. The dash on my 73 is very bad. I am not sure the condition of the blue dash on the 74 but I think it is also cracked at least a little bit (although you could cover it with some custom material and no one would know). Drivers arm rest in my 73 has been broken and welded back and forth so much that I think it has given up. I believe my passenger side arm rest is good, though (it's black). The interior and body of the 73 is pretty thrashed but there are some parts like coil springs that are still good. The rear that is currently sits on is stock from a 71 sedan and it should also be in good shape. You are welcome to whatever is salvageable on the 73 and 74 (free parts). It might be worth your drive to come on out.
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

Krstone21

I'd love to see what parts you have left from your parts cars. I need a few things to get mine looking good. for now probably just a dash and drivers door armrest. I'm looking for the kinda dark blue. Is that monster fur something that can on some pinto's or is that something that people added later? my seats are kindof a light blue valour kindof fabric that looks professionally done.

Krstone21

Great to hear from some other Washington Pinto Owners. I just picked up a 1973 Pinto for $100, i found it in an old car lot in Central Washington. Needs carb work and quite a bit of rust but i think it'll be great when i get some time to work on it.

rare cars

RIGHT ON! You are obviously comfortable in your own skin (monster fur) ;D
My rare cars: '72 Pinto wagon (Pagon), 260" V-8, C4 Auto., Ice blue metallic. Plus seven other works in progress = I have a car problem!

sagesunrise

I found my connection on some black with purple monster fur. It is not the type of monster fur that I had initially thought of using, it is more "hairy" instead of "furry", but because the color combo that I must have is so difficult to find, I will use this hairy stuff. So it is polyester and I give off lots of energy (static electricity) wherever I go...should there be any concerns of using this as my interior with all of the static it will produce? Just a thought that crossed my mind so I wanted to ask the group. I plan on using it for the back "seat" area - sides, back, and under the rear window. One of my plastic sides under my rear pop out window has a big chunk broke out of it so it will definitely be nice to cover that up. Obviously that part came out of my '73 cause I remember the interior being crunched in that spot. I will cover the dash with this stuff too and I have decided, at this point, to leave the door panels as is. They are in great condition, shiney, and look very nice. I prefer the '71's arm rest to the '73's. It seems the arm rests in the '73 were always coming off and breaking. I will also put this monster fur on my ebrake assembly. I will be purchasing this fur in August and will post some interior pics as the project starts. For now, I have purchased 8 yards of black shag carpet for the headliner and floor, including the floor area where there once was a rear seat. Stereo system needs completion before the carpet is installed. I have 3 more speakers that I'd like to install before the carpet goes in. Here is a pic of the monster fur I had hoped to find, only in black and purple but I am unable to find it. The second pic is the style I will be purchasing (in black and purple of course).
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

sagesunrise

ChrisV-It's so great to hear she is a gearhead girl. I've got some parts that are waiting to go to scrap that I would rather give to fellow pintoers. If she is interested, she can have at 'em. ;)
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

ChrisV

Very well could have been hers. Hers is red.

And turn wrenches? She could rebuild any part of any car. She's been an SCCA racer for a LONG time, and wrenches on all her own stuff. Most of her racers have been older Hondas (though she learned to race in my Pinto way back in the day), however, and her Pinto is just a clean driver.
I've owned over a hundred cars in the last 25 years.. What the heck was *I* thinking...

sagesunrise

ChrisV, Yea, what a bummer you moved! You could have free parts galore! I can't find anyone to take the parts and I am offering them for free. Does your sis drive the wagon? I was driving into Belfair once and saw about  a'73 wagon pulling out of North Mason High heading South on SR 3. That was about 6 months ago or longer. Could've been you or your sis!! I work for the Allyn fire department if your sis is interested. They all know about my pinto. She can inquire with them the next time she passes through if she would like anything. Be happy to give her any and all parts that she thinks she could use, but she has to turn the wrenches :) Thank you for the compliment and I am very glad to see you all enjoying Kermit. I wanted a pic that would make everyone laugh!!
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

Pintony


ChrisV

That turned out quite nice! Wish I had seen this earlier, as I have a '73 body only a few miles from you, at my folk's house in Allyn, as well as a few other parts. Unfortunately I moved to the east coast a few years back and wasn't able to take the cars with... My sister has her '73 Wagon out there, too.
I've owned over a hundred cars in the last 25 years.. What the heck was *I* thinking...

dirt track demon

if Kermit is passed out on the lawn,   I wonder....... Where did Miss Piggy wind up last night????
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

sagesunrise

Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

rare cars

 8) WAY COOL car Sagesunrise! Troy
My rare cars: '72 Pinto wagon (Pagon), 260" V-8, C4 Auto., Ice blue metallic. Plus seven other works in progress = I have a car problem!

sagesunrise

I am kinda bummed that I live so far from the East Coast. Seems there are so much things going on over there regarding pintos. I really would love to be able to attend the shows and the meets with other pinto folks. I suspect there are a lot more West Coast pinto people, but they just haven't discovered the site yet. My pinto has been my life since 1986 and discovering this site was the coolest. I never knew there were other people who were crazy like I am  :D I LOVE THIS WEBSITE!!
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

dirt track demon

  After seeing your car and the cool shifter handle, I was thinking its too bad washington is so far from pennsylvania. ;)
Favorite place to race:on the xbox

Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

sagesunrise

 :D And the shifter...one of a kind. Handmade by a best friend of mine back in '89 or so out of melted down aluminum. :D Not the best connection between the shifter and the tranny and one day I'd like to have it altered at a machine shop and some of his "neck" trimmed off. But for now he adds to the fun of driving ol' Martha. His head fits perfectly in my little hand. The harmonics of the car will cause him to start bouncing and rattling and that tells me it's time for a tune up or some carb tinkering. More interior to come as that part of the project moves forward. It's on hold for now as I try to locate all of the material styles I am looking for. I did receive my black shag carpet - 8 yards should do it (headliner and floorboards, including where the back seat used to be).
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

77pintocw

Hey sagesunrise:

Cool!   ;D

77pintocw
1977, Pinto Cruising Wagon, White with Blue Graphics

sagesunrise

Heck of a time finding the right monster fur but I do have a lead. Sample is being sent to me now. I think I found the material that I will use on the seats. It's not quite what I had in mind....it's better. Thanks for the compliment, Dirt Track. It really takes a nice sunny day to bring the purple out just right - a rare occurrence in WA state  ;) But I do enjoy the dark paint and love the sleek black look when it is cloudy/rainy.
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug