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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

4 bolt pinto 6.75 vs 4 bolt mii 8"

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Wittsend

When I went to a 8" rear end it was a complete (as they say) "drum to drum" swap.  This was about 12 years ago and I think it was $116 out the door at Pick Your Part.

The 6-3/4" brake drums will NOT work. The center hole is different. As I recall there was possibly an issue with the parking brake cable too. Maybe someone else knows better. I just can't remember. I believe my rear end came out of a Mustang II. As far as the pads, mounts, U-bolts etc. go I the 8" tubes taper down and I believe the original 6-3/4" pieces mounted the 8". Again I'm not 100% on that but believe it is good.

The width is fine, no worries there. However, the centerline of the axle to the flange attachment of the driveshaft is different. I believe the difference is in the 1" to 1-1/2" range. So, the driveshaft is not the proper length. I was just very fortunate that I also went to a T-5, 5 speed and what was lost on one end was gained on the other.

As to ratios, the 8" Pinto rears came with 3.00, 3.40 and 3.55. There should be a tag bolted to the rear. Tire diameter and intended use/expectations plays a factor in what ratio is best.


Update: Actually as I (NOW) read through the previous post (should have done that before writing this post) I believe all these questions have been answered before. It would be beneficial to go back and re-read them.

LongTimeFordMan

UPDATE...

i have found an 8" rear end from a 1978 V6 pinto with an auto trans.

i understand that it will probably have 3.0 or 3.2 gears and i plan to convert it to 3.55.

I assume that since this is from a pinto the width will be the same as the 6.75 but my question is whether the late model housing will bolt directly in as far as the shock mounts, U bolts, pads, etc.

also would the backing plates, brakes etc from th 73 6.75 fir or should i use the entire 78 setup.. i can get the complete rear end setup.
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

65ShelbyClone

Yeah, the leaf-spring 8.8s have to be shortened on one side and the long axle swapped with another short one. They're good rear ends and many are Traction-Lok equipped, but I'm not crazy about integral carriers and c-clip axles.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

Wittsend

For sure, those wishing to convert to 5 bolt do benefit from the Maverick 5 bolt - 8" such as you have done. As the 8" gets harder to find I've heard that the Bronco 8.8 is another option but if I recall correctly the center section is offset (likely for the transfer case of 4 wheel drive). Too bad there isn't a universal site like WiKi where all aspects of transplant (rear ends, engines, transmissions radiators etc.) could be easily found for any specific car.

65ShelbyClone

I purposely mentioned the Maverick for that reason; it comes up frequently as a swap donor despite not being a direct replacement. The spring perches have to be modified and neither wheel bolt pattern is the same as a Pinto. The V8 one would probably be the shortest distance to a five-lug conversion although five-lug axles for the Pinto/MII 8" aren't impossible to find.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

Wittsend

Yes, the 6 cylinder Falcon/Maverick/Comet/Ranchero all used the 4 x 4.5 bolt pattern. The (early) Corvair, Datsun as well as others also used it. Today you will likely find it more in a metric 4 X114mm size. A lot of times you hear people say that the Maverick 8" will work with the Pinto. Most likely the person doing the swap is opting for 8" - 5 lug wheels such as the V-8 Maverick/Comet etc. had. I believe the Maverick 8" is also 1/2" narrower and I'm not sure if the spring pads line up perfectly. If the stock Pinto configuration is retained this poses a problem with spare tires (as in needing two). Therefore the simplest solution is to find a Pinto or Mustang II 8" rear end and IF you have 71-73 Pinto factory wheels they will not fit though there is some hope if they are aftermarket wheels.

So:
71-73 Pinto's 4 X 4-1/4" pattern BUT, smaller center circle on the wheel.
74-80 Pinto's (Mustang II) 4 X4-1/4" pattern  with larger center circle on wheels.
60-77 /Falcon/Maverick/Comet/Ranchero 6 cylinder models, 4 X 4.5 pattern. Weaker than 8". Widths may vary.
70-77 Maverick/Comet V-8, 8", 5 X 4.5 bolt pattern.  Not sure on all 8" widths.


65ShelbyClone

That's one of the 4 x 4.5" rear ends that oldkayaker mentioned. I think Mavericks might also.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

rob289c

Related Story:  I tried to mount the Pinto's 13" rims on the 4-lug 6-cylinder Mustang and they would not fit.  I thought for sure they would but they would not.
rob289c

65ShelbyClone

The MII brackets might require figuring out another shock absorber option then. I used the hardware from a later 2.3 Pinto and it was a bolt-on affair.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

Wittsend

Thanks. That confirms the differences.  I'd rather say something (a warning) than not, but I hate that I often can't remember all the specifics. Glad someone could fill them in.

My 8" came out of a Mustang II. Weren't the lower perch plates different? My 73 originally had the single threaded pin on each shock end. I just went and looked and the lower mounting plates on the later 70's Mustang II has two sideways holes to bolt through a circular hole on the lower Mustang II shock. Maybe that actually offers a better shock option? Anyway, I just thought I'd mention it. I think (but not sure) I just redrilled/mixed & matched my 73 plates??? Again, I just hate not remembering.

65ShelbyClone

I reused my '72 brake cables on the '77 rear end. Axle tubes are the same. Spring perches are not and you'll be money ahead to get the shock brackets and isolators to match them.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

Wittsend

Those wheels look late 70's early 80's - or even newer and I'd assume have the larger center hole. But if you take one off and measure the opening it should give a decent indication. The difference isn't much as Jerry stated. The pattern is 4-1/4" which also mated to the Fox body 4 bolt pattern.

Just a note that I recall there is something different about the 8" rear and the parking brake cable. I can't remember if it is the attachment anchor or the cable length. So, you might either need to swap the cable or make sure you get the 8" brake cable. Hopefully someone else knows. I did mine 12+ years ago and my recollection just isn't what it use to be.

... And I recall there might be a difference in the axle tube diameter??? I think when I grabbed my 8" I basically made sure everything that was re-attachable I put back on before I went to the window to buy it. Again the memory is vague. I hate getting old!

oldkayaker

Nice looking wheels.  All stock Pinto's used 4 lugs on a 4-1/4" bolt circle pattern.  Note some of the 1960's Ford's used 4 lugs on a 4-1/2" bolt circle pattern, see link below.  From my experiences, the lugs will center the wheel.  My heavy stock GMC van uses the lugs to center the wheels and it came with tapered lug nuts for the stock aluminum wheels.  The after market aluminum wheels on my Pinto's were designed and use straight shank lug nuts to center the wheels.
http://www.teufert.net/wheels/bolt-pat.htm
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

LongTimeFordMan

Thanks..

I have Americam Racing aluminum rims with the removable centers which i wanted to keep so i dont think that the center hub would be a problemsince i can wobble the centers when the lug nuts are loose when i install or remove the rims

I was mainly  concerned about the 4 bolt  lug pattern fitting my rims. My rims  have tapered lug holes and bolts so i assume that they locate on the lug bolts
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

oldkayaker

The 74-80 Pinto and Mustang II both 8" and 6.75" rears have a larger hub size than the 71-73 Pinto's.  The Ford 71-73 steel wheels will not fit over this larger hub.  The after market aluminum wheels that I have used have a larger center hole so they fitted over the larger hub.  I do not know if the 73 Ford aluminum wheels have the smaller center hole or not.  Just roughly measuring the center hole on Ford steel wheels, the 71-73 center hole is 2.4+" while a 79 wheel measured 2.5+".
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

LongTimeFordMan

Hi..

I was wondering if there are any 8" rear ends that were fitted with 4 bolt wheels that would fit the 4 bolt wheels from a 73 pinto 6.75 rear

I may be able to get an 8" but would like to keep my  current alloy rims.

Thanks..
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles