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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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LongTimeFordMan

i just posted about installing a new aluminum cross flow radiator in my 73 wagon...

check it out and if you have any comments or questions let me know
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

LongTimeFordMan

i just bought the 22" "SBC" radia5or from speedway and am now in the process of instslling it.

so.far i have some brackets made that allow the rediator to be fitted with no sheet metsl mods..

the onlu problem.so far is the bose connections.. the aluminum radiator has a 1 1/2" inlet and 2" outlet.  i have found a hose 5hat fits the lower, ie from 1 1/2" at water pump to 2" at radiator.

i am extending the factory hose with a pieece of tubing.. 

will post pix and details and part numbers for the radiator and hoses when i finish...
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

376t

Looking at BMW radiators for late 60s to late 70s for the 2002 model. Haven't tried one, but they look like a possible fit with minor fab work. Maybe relocating mounting holes. This is all the further I have researched.

pinto_one

I have a 2.0 radiator out of a 72 , it was good when I pulled it , free if you want it , will take photos if you like , it came out of a automatic, just plug the cooler and go , later Blaine in Mississippi
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

Bullitt4248

 Yes - we did it to our selves - and we just did it again yesterday !

LongTimeFordMan

the problem is the price of copper and the EPA  regulations that prohibit the use of lead solder in many states..

if you investigare the chrome plating shops, they too have been regulared out of existence.

also.with aluminum welding tech and the price of aluminum i think most of the radiator mfrs have switched to aluminum cross flow and there are quite a few located in the usa.

i had a price from a rebuilder to replace my copper core that was made in Dallas and the cost of the core alone was like $400.

compared.to a complete aluminum radiator for $140 including shipping.

also not much of a market for radiators.for.50 year olf cars.
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

Bullitt4248

  I tried to find a shop to fix my 1972 heater core - I felt like I was asking for a miracle. Took it to 3 shops that advertise radiator repairs - they looked at it with amazement and said - "Those are unfix-able - they were specialty built" -

  Back in the 1970's there was many shops around that could repair radiators and heater cores . I cant believe how many shops can only do replacements - they have no talents or skills to repair.

Wonder why everything is made over seas - we are screwing our selves out of future jobs. Sad  :'(

http://aftermarketautostore.com/ecom.asp?pg=products&specific=jscsfnkrm
Core Material: Copper
Tank Material: Brass
Flow Type: Downflow
Row No.: 2
Core Height: 15 1/8
Core Width: 20 1/4
Core Depth: 1 1/4
Tube No.: 0
Tube Size: 0,500
Fin Per Inch: 12
Inlet Header: 3 1/8 x 20 1/2
Outlet Header: 1 5/8 x 19 3/4
Inlet: 1 1/4
Outlet: 1 1/4
EOC: None
TOC: 10 ( Concentric )
Mounting: Flange Mount

davidpinto

i have been researching radiators that would work in pintos.the closest i can find is mustang 11.  w/o air part# cu418 core size 15 1/8 x 20 1/4 ..with air part# cu419 core size 17 3/8 x 20 1/4 .they would work easily.the main difference is the bottom spout is straight on both.they both have flange for shroud.availibility?
D BARHAM

LongTimeFordMan

after more research i discovered that the easewood radiator is a triple.pas meaning the water goes back and forth thru the radiator for max cooling for.racing engines and tonaccomplish this it may be necessary tk have a high capacity water pump.

5he second one, the speedway that i posted is  a single pass meaning the water only goes thru once is probably better for street use with a factory water pump.

heres a link to an explanation

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/the-toolbox/single-pass-double-pass-triple-pass-radiators-what-s-the-difference/28862
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

LongTimeFordMan

the wheels are

American racing Outlaw AR62, here is a link to discount tire

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-wheels/american-racing-ar62-outlaw-ii

i.also.found another radiator from Speedway motors that i think may fit.. it is 22 inches wide and 20 inches high but doesnt have any mounting flanges so it would be necessary to fabricate a cradle..

i plan to make cardboard box with the same dimensions and see how it fits. Will update as i progress

here is the link..

https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Chevy-SBC-BBC-Universal-Aluminum-Radiators,3557.html

Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

ponyboy

If you go with that radiator could you let us know if it works? I also have a 1973 wagon. I had the radiator repaired by a local shop about a year ago. It's still holding, but I don't know for how long. I live in the Phoenix, AZ area, where it is HOT, and does not freeze during the winter. I am using a 160 degree thermostat, distilled water in the cooling system, and running it with the radiator cap loosened to a half turn so it does not build up pressure. It runs fine that way, and even in the middle of the summer, when it is 115+ degrees, the temperature of the water does not get close to 212 degrees. Yes, it takes it longer to warm up, but it never really gets cold here, and the car does not have a heater. I am afraid that pressurizing the cooling system might cause it to start leaking again.

Oh, and can I ask where you got the 14" wheels? Several years ago I saw some 14" chrome smoothies from Summit Racing with a Pinto bolt pattern, but they are not there anymore.

LongTimeFordMan

mine is a 4 speed std car...

does anyone have any experience with eastwood products?

i spoke to the teck support guy at eastwood and he seemed friendly and informed about their products so i think i am going to order the radiator and see how it fits.
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

davidpinto

eastmon 2o150 is for str drive trans. i have a radiator cat.at work i can get part#s no's for ones that will work with automatics.i was wondering if mustang11s are the same too.i am assuming yours is not std drive..davidpinto.....
D BARHAM

LongTimeFordMan

hi..  well after some research i found an aftermarker crossflow aluminum radiator made by Eastman.

Its made for a.small.block chevy so it should provide more than enough cooling, the inlet and outlet ports are the same as the pinto and the dimensions should allow it to be used in a pinto wi5h spacers as mentioned above.

its 22 inches wide which would allow it to in the 24 wide space between the frame rails, 19 in high and has mountong flanges to allow it to be mounted with spacers.

and it sells for $169 and i think shipping is free?

here is a link to the website

https://www.eastwood.com/triflow

spec are here

https://www.eastwood.com/images/pdf/20150_Specs.pdf
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

Wittsend

Regarding the 74-80 Pinto radiators being the same AND the Mustang II radiators being the same as the Pinto, I don't know. I'd look up an online vendor, both the 74 AND the 80 radiator and see if they have the same part number. Likewise I'd look up the Mustang II and see if the numbers match the later Pinto's. The one thing to be aware of numbers wise is the vendors MAY sell the Automatic radiator for both Auto and Manual.

As long as a radiator doesn't hit the fan (or the hood), there is sheet metal behind it to attach a bolt and the inlet/outlets are relative to attaching a hose they are very adaptable. I used my old 17" Pinto radiator in my Mazda 323 to squeeze another month out of it before I sold it to the state as a gross polluter. I also crammed a Dodge Diplomat oversize radiator in my Plymouth Valiant.

LongTimeFordMan

thanks for the info.. i saw your previous post and was going to do the same with the exception of modding the cradle...

i am definitely wanting to upgrade to a 74 or later radiator and was wondering about  compatibility, especially

1 are the pinto radiators from 74 thru 80 the same and will they fit with your mods

2 are the mustang ii radiators the same as the 74-80 pinto radiators and will they also fit the pinto with your mods

3 where did you get your 74 radiator

4 has anyone here found one of the new aluminum radiatiors that will fit a pinto
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

Wittsend

There were 17" (71-73) and 20" (74*-80) radiators. The asterisk on 74 is that they used the 17" radiator with the 2.0 but had a cover plate to compensate as that year forward was designed for the 20" radiator. I put the 20" in my '73 wagon.


In my case I cut the cradle and moved the mounts but you can likely just use spacers (even a stack of washers) and drill holes. This will keep a portion out of the air flows but with a 2.0 you still will likely get better cooling than with a 17". I had to make sure that the 20" radiator was literally sitting on the valance pan because it is taller. Not sure if it is in an automatic how that factors with the trans cooler lines. I'm thinking it wouldn't but it might so I mention it. Hope the pictures help. When I cut the cradle I overlapped the metal to retain some strength.


OPPS, sure an old post (or is it old me that's old!). I never realized I pretty much said the same thing one year and 8 days a go. How time flies when you are in a Pandemic.


LongTimeFordMan

are the 74-80 pinto radiators the same as the 2.3 mustang ii inits

i think the 50 year old radiator in my 73 is finally needing replacement..its been "repaired" professionally 3 times and ive soldered the upper and lower tanks multiple times..

i saw a video about a fellow who uesd a "74" and just needed to drill some n mounting holes and use spacers to get the correct front to back spacing
Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

71pintoracer

l have the 20" that was on my wagon. Looks to be fairly new and in good condition. PM if you're interested
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Wittsend

You might find the later Pinto (20") radiator more available.I have a '73 that has a cradle similar to a '72. IF you can't find something suitable to replace the 17"..., well I was able to convert and run a 20" (74-80). It requires cutting and welding the cradle, moving it roughly 3" outward on the drivers side. I had to redrill a few holes as well. Still it was a rather simple process. I have a FMPF (front mounted pusher fan) so a shroud might be a potential problem for an engine driven fan. On the other hand the larger radiator might negate the need for a shroud. Do note that the 20" radiator goes all the way to the lower valance  and even required in my case a little pressure on it. It flexes readily sdo it is doable.

ponyboy

It's a manual. Sorry about using such a non specific term. It is leaking between the top tank and core all the way across. I have not yet taken the radiator out yet, so I don't know if it is the top tank, the core, or the joint between the two, or all of the above. I am definitely mechanically inclined, and have even built engines. But I have not had much experience with radiators other than replacing them. I remember taking the radiator from my 1970 Dodge Dart to a radiator shop back in the early '80s and being told it could not be repaired. Fortunately a new one was available. I like to think I am quite good at improvising and fabricating, which is why I was hoping to find a radiator I could do that with, and have a newer and hopefully better radiator. There are plenty of universal hoses available, but the inlet and outlet would need to at least be on the same side as the original radiator to avoid having to couple hoses together and put elbows in them. That too would not be that difficult if I had a big pile of parts to work with. But I would need to know what to buy, and if it didn't work it would just be money down the drain. I was actually hoping that someone here had done this and knew of a radiator that could be made to fit. I found a couple on eBay that claim they fit a '73 Pinto, along with several other cars. The picture has the inlet and outlets on the wrong side.

Wittsend

Automatic or Manual? You can use an Automatic in a Manual car but you can't use a Manual in an Automatic (meaning radiators). The early cars used a 17" wide radiator. The later cars used a 20" wide radiator. I believe it was 1974 they used both, the 17" had an extension plate.

Radiators are rather adaptable if you possess the skills and tools. Mounting hole can easily be drilled. If an Automatic, slip on connectors can be threaded into the trans cooler and then run rubber hose with clamps to the lines. It need not be a "direct replacement" but just have the general dimensions and inlet/outlet size and locations.

  FWIW, I used my old 17" Pinto radiator in my Mazda 323 with baling wire and wire ties for the fan. I only needed it for three weeks before I sold it to the State with their gross polluter buy back program. As long as it drove in, was currently register and had failed a smog test they gave $1,000. Not a bad deal for a car that was given free to me.

russosborne

Define blew up. A good radiator shop can fix about anything.
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

Reeves1

Well, that is not good......I removed a set of tanks for a guy here & then never heard from him again.
Tried to sell them & no takers......so tossed them into scrap.
They were from a 72.

ponyboy

Thanks, I thought of that, but I'm not sure if the tanks are still useable.

Reeves1

Take your rad to a rad shop & they can remove the tanks & mount them on a new rad core.......

ponyboy

I just finished replacing the ignition and tailgate locks on my '73 wagon (I had to remove them without the key) and now the radiator blew up. Anybody know where I can get a reasonably priced radiator that will fit without too much modification? Thanks, Jerry