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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Time to deal with the 1972 flex shaft...

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entropy

Quote from: fozzy on December 20, 2019, 01:04:02 AM
I replaced the flex shaft in my 71 with a couple U joints and DD shaft and no welding required.

The flexible shaft pulls out of the upper part of the column. I'll see if I have any pictures. I should have part numbers too in my receipts but might take me a while to find that info.

I was wondering if that would work, having had it apart.  It seemed like the obvious method.  If you have any photos or part numbers, I would be most appreciative.
1972 Hoonabout
SBF swap
-308 cid
-CNC ported Brodix heads
-Edelbrock Super Victor intake
-QuickFuel 750 double pumper built by Siebert
-Single stage NOS Cheater system
8" rear 4.11 posi
G-Force 5 Speed
10 point rollcage


450-ish rwhp on motor.....something a bit more than that on the spray

Reeves1

Two steering columns restored & tested on the blue car on the rotisserie with the Flaming River rack. Cable delete done.






Reeves1

FYI - I just ordered the last FR 2631  3/4 x 9/16-26 U-Joint from Flaming River.

They had at least 60 of the FR1916 still in stock.

However, if you go to their site and under U-Joints, they have others , but different materials.

ie:  http://www.flamingriver.com/index.php/products/c0005/s0011/FR2589-4

Reeves1


Reeves1

When I took it all apart I found the signal cam broken & very brittle.
I have a new one on the way here.

Also, the ignition switch chrome was in bad shape, as well as the signal lever.
I have new ones on the way.

The rest of the steering column has been cleaned & painted.
Bearings cleaned & new white Lithium grease.

I have a new Grant Steering Wheel to install, when it comes time to put the car back together.

72DutchWagon

Thanks for the images Reeves, and for the extra effort with the white paper!
Mine will have to wait untill spring, but conversion is definitely on the list!

Reeves1

Left click the pics one time & they show bigger.

Had to put white paper behind it so it would show in the pics....

Reeves1

Flaming River rack & U-Joints.......done.
Turns side to side smoothly !
Zero play to the steering !








Reeves1

Quote from: fozzy on December 20, 2019, 01:04:02 AM
I replaced the flex shaft in my 71 with a couple U joints and DD shaft and no welding required.

The flexible shaft pulls out of the upper part of the column. I'll see if I have any pictures. I should have part numbers too in my receipts but might take me a while to find that info.

Did you slide the (new) double D shaft into the slip section , that is part of the original lower steering shaft ?

Did you allow enough slide left in case of a front end collision , so the steering wheel doesn't impact your chest ?

I may be thinking wrong..... did you replace the whole lower section with a new longer double D shaft ?

I started the mods on the blue car yesterday......

fozzy

I replaced the flex shaft in my 71 with a couple U joints and DD shaft and no welding required.

The flexible shaft pulls out of the upper part of the column. I'll see if I have any pictures. I should have part numbers too in my receipts but might take me a while to find that info.

72DutchWagon

Images saved and info noted! Not in a hurry, probably spring project!
Mustang II lower steering shaft has it's own problems, sent email to Borgeson to ask what connects to this.

Wittsend

I would definitely install the column before cutting/welding any pieces in. Angles do strange things and a little can often add up to a lot if things need to be moved slightly. As noted in Reply #4 (fourth picture) I had to indent the inner fender because the T/C steering column extended a bit further than the Pinto column.

Also column related. I have  '64 Studebaker Daytona that came with a bench seat. That seat basically allowed you to put your butt where you preferred it.  I swapped in a set of bucket seats from a Nissan Maxima.  I measured accurately, made sure they were parallel and square to the car. . . , then I sat in them and was confounded. I felt like I was sitting side saddle. Eventually I took a string and pulled it perpendicular to the column. The column was pointing at the drivers side rear tail light!  I had to angle the seats inward before my shoulders and line of sight felt square with the steering wheel.

You are dealing with columns not seats but they still need a proper relationship.  I don't think it will be an issue..., but you should give it at least a trial consideration. A 1/4" different at the mounting point could be 2"-3" at your shoulders.

Reeves1

You folks got me thinking......so I put the dash, back supports for all I needed to mount the steering column. Also the used rack.

If you look at my above post / pictures, the top U Joint should not go in that location.
You will need a section of 3/4" shaft welded into the slip joint - approx  5" to 7" long. You need to get the top U Joint outside (towards engine) the rubber boot that plugs the steering column hole in the fire wall.






I did not take any accurate measurements. That is a welding rod inside the slip joint & top U Joint ! LOL
Just wanted an idea of what I....and you , may be facing.

If you are going to do this, make sure you think it through very well.

Another thing to consider is your welding skills.
If not 100% sure, get a Pro to weld it up after tacking it in place.

Steering is a "fairly" important part of any vehicle  ;D


FYI - if you right click the pictures & "save as" you will have them in the future & be able to see them bigger on your computer...

Reeves1

I have no idea about newer cars / parts.

All I can say about what I'm going to do will be test fitted this winter in my blue car.

Over Xmas I hope to have the engine mounts / trans mounts & other engine compartment stuff done by spring.

My plan is to drill a hole in each side of the slip shaft about 3" to 4" from the end. I'll weld around the end & the holes, after sliding in the round stock.
The round stock will only stick out about 1.5" - enough to weld on the U Joint.

I'm sort of caught up on home chores ..... so may install the steering column & see what I can.
I'm fairly sure the length cut out (flex shaft) will be plenty to allow for the U joint system.

72DutchWagon

Thanks Reeves, you confirmed the numbers for the u-joints that you already posted several years ago, so no doubts there.
What do you think about my plan to not cut up and weld 3/4 " bar stock into the original flex shaft, but use the bottom half of a Mustang II shaft (which probably is the same as a 74 up Pinto shaft)?
Will it be a direct fit to (slide over) the top half of the 72 Pinto shaft?

Reeves1

Sorry for the delay. Been super busy !

Info is for 71 / 72 cars (I've only worked on 72s)

In this first picture you see the slip shaft on the left. You can also see where I cut the flex shaft , where it rounds like the rest of the slip shaft. Left = bottom. Don't know why it turned.




Upper U joint location. You will need a length of 3/4 " bar stock to replce the flex shaft.
Flaming River part number FR1916. 3/4 x 3/4 NB U Joint.





Lower U Joint.
Flaming River part number : FR2631. Forged U Joint 3/4 x 9/16 - 26


Wittsend

Maybe my pictures above will be helpful but at this point you should just be able to to disconnect the current shaft from the link and see if Your mustang II shaft will fit into the coupler. If not there is the "At your own risk" of grinding it to fit like I did.  Hope it works out for you.

72DutchWagon

 I decided to pull apart my spare mustang II steering column. Will I be able to mate the bottom part of the Mustang II steering shaft to the top part of my 72 Pinto Wagon shaft? I figure that that would be a good starting point for the conversion.

entropy

Quote from: Reeves1 on November 13, 2019, 08:06:02 PM
Going to be about 10 days before I can post part numbers.......

Do not forget the shaft has to be able to slide into the upper in case of impact.

I've only had 72s. If you un-bolt the rag joint, the shaft will slide into the upper.

Measure so you get the same travel.....


I can wait.  Mine is also a '72 and I'm not going to touch it until I find an example of it done and done right that I can rip off with both hands....and part numbers will *definitely* help.
1972 Hoonabout
SBF swap
-308 cid
-CNC ported Brodix heads
-Edelbrock Super Victor intake
-QuickFuel 750 double pumper built by Siebert
-Single stage NOS Cheater system
8" rear 4.11 posi
G-Force 5 Speed
10 point rollcage


450-ish rwhp on motor.....something a bit more than that on the spray

LongTimeFordMan

Red 1973 pinto wagon DD, SoCal desert car, Factory 4 speed, 3.40 gears, Stock engine, 14" rims and tires, 60 K original miles

Reeves1

Going to be about 10 days before I can post part numbers.......

Do not forget the shaft has to be able to slide into the upper in case of impact.

I've only had 72s. If you un-bolt the rag joint, the shaft will slide into the upper.

Measure so you get the same travel.....

Wittsend

Trust me we don't have many Turbo Coupes around here either and I'm in sunny Southern California.  When I did my turbo swap in 2007 I was fortunate enough to already have an '88 TC. It was my daily driver for 10 years. When I went to the self serve yards there were always 3-5 of them. But within about 6 months (2008) there were 1 or 2. By 2010 it was maybe 1 every other month. I don't know that I've seen even one in the past 5 years now.

My hope is that a lot of the Fox body cars (mainly Mustangs) used a similar column and it would be helpful as an option. But, I understand where you are anything American must be rare.

72DutchWagon

Thanks for all the detailed info Wittsend.
Not many TC's around here, but I do have an extra Mustang II column, maybe do a little mix and match when the time comes for this job, probably it will go more in the direction of Reeves suggestions.

Wittsend

OK, going back and looking at the pictures I see I had to modify the column support. The machined piece on the column is fixed and not movable. However, the upper support piece can be fit anywhere. Thus, that determines where the Turbo Coupe column will reside. That also determines the column to rack link length.


Some of this is coming back to me. I cut just the tip of the Fox body link (that was all I used of it) and ground it to match the Pinto link. However, it came short of matching the portion that went into the Turbo Coupe column. So, I had to elongate the hole. The rack is fixed in place. The machined piece on the column fixed it in place and thus the modification was necessary on the tip cut off the Fox body link to make up the distance.


I'm not sure if all Fox body (Mustang in particular) columns are the same but a lot of people use the TC for a turbo swap and might consider this option.  You get a tilt steering wheel in the deal. I had to rewire the horn/turn signals too. But I cut the connector off a junkyard column and didn't have to cut the original from my Pinto. I just plugged the connector in.

Wittsend

Here are the pictures. As always, DO AT YOUR OWN RISK. '88 Turbo Coupe steering column to '73 Pinto rack.


It has been a while..., but my recollection was that I used the Fox body joint (a portion of) to couple to the Pinto joint. I just went and looked but I still can't recall specifically. I hate getting old!  I did notice that I needed to indent the inner fender a bit. So, maybe the Turbo Coupe steering column was a bit longer???  Again, as best I recall I used the Pinto steering link and ground/modified the tip of the Fox body link to be an intermediary where as the Pinto link just bolted to the column.


Basically I had to modify the piece (cut off Fox body link) in picture three, to match the shape of the Pinto column (picture one) so it would fit the Pinto link and the other end fit the Turbo Coupe column (picture2)

Wittsend

Not sure if the one year only '73 rack and column are significantly different ... . But..., I used the '73 rack, a section of a Fox body Mustang joint and the steering column from my '88 Turbo Coupe.  I remember having to grind (on the joint) the unique shape of the column to match.  I don't have time now but maybe in the next few days I'll post pictures. Not sure what you are looking for but maybe it is an option?

72DutchWagon

I would like to get rid of the flex shaft too, after 47 years it must be past its prime.
When driving over 80 on the freeway it always feels like the steering gets vague, certainly with load in the back.
Reeves already gave suggestions on April 26, 2014 in the post "Flex steering boots –solid with U-joints, you can find it here: https://www.fordpinto.com/general-pinto-talk/flex-steering-boots-solid-with-u-joints/msg147812/#msg147812 .
I never found a post of someone who actually did it, and I'm very curious to know if it is possible to do with only two u-joints, because the space in which to make the bend to the rack is rather short in the early cars. Or would a third joint and consequently a heim joint be necessary to get it done?
I keep postponing this upgrade because I'm not 100% sure if I only have to order a Flaming River FR2631, FR1916 (or Borgeson equivalent) and a length of  ¾" hardened steel rod to change this.

71pintoracer

As you stated in my post, that cable shaft might have been the cause the demise of the Pintoracer. So will a later model u-joint shaft work in the early chassis with the V-8? If so l have an extra column in a parts car. Other wise you will have to make a shaft. Years ago (many years lol) when l drove dirt track pinto's we used the weld in joints from Summit with a heim joint to stabilize the shaft. That way we got rid of the rag joint.
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

entropy

As my car starts to get ever more serious in the power department, it's time for me to start dealing with other aspects of the car that scare the bajeezus out of me....and the flexible steering shaft is stop number one.  Is there anyone out there who has gotten rid of that nightmare cable, replaced it with shafts and u joints *and* who can tell me in detail what I'll need in order to make that happen safely?
1972 Hoonabout
SBF swap
-308 cid
-CNC ported Brodix heads
-Edelbrock Super Victor intake
-QuickFuel 750 double pumper built by Siebert
-Single stage NOS Cheater system
8" rear 4.11 posi
G-Force 5 Speed
10 point rollcage


450-ish rwhp on motor.....something a bit more than that on the spray