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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Quote from: rowdyrunabout on July 03, 2018, 04:55:15 PM
Keeps wanting to overheat. changed from 192 therm to 160- so I could be sure it was cooling before hurting it. I will need direction on cooling- will start another post- thanks again.
How do you mean? The electric fan didn't come on until the mid-220°F range with a stock 2.3T. Fortunately you have a '74 chassis and replacement radiators are both available and large enough to cool a 2.3T. If/when you get the cooling under control, go back to a 192/195°F thermostat. That's what the ECU typically needs to properly come out of "warm-up" mode.

I ran a tiny stock '71-73 radiator that was in bad condition in my car for a while and it was on the ragged edge in mild weather. Now that I have a first-gen Mustang radiator, the fans are the limiting factor.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

Wittsend

Glad you got that sorted correctly.  Not much to the needed vacuum wise. I still have the vacuum tree but frankly all it does is feed the boost gage.  So, I could eliminate it.  EGR is gone and other vauum needing accessory as well. Should be just a few hoses for the boost control (as per my factory IHI '88 turbo setup). Do note there is a very prominent diagram on the internet that is wrong.  I'll see if I can find the proper setup. I remember is was a topic of mine some time ago.


OK, AS BEST I CAN TELL..., this is the correct diagram. http://turbotbird.com/faqs/Vac_Diagram.htm  It is actually from a NATO post I made years ago. Post number 242582 showing in the uper right of the page near the date.  http://natomessageboard.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=242582#Post242582

rowdyrunabout

just an update. Finally got the wiring right- thanks to you guys. Coil was bad. I killed it with bad initial wiring. Also didn't have enough fuel pressure. Got that right. Had to put the fuel pump in tank- in addition to external. It runs. has some hesitation- I think vacuum probs. But I can tell that it has some guts. Keeps wanting to overheat. changed from 192 therm to 160- so I could be sure it was cooling before hurting it. I will need direction on cooling- will start another post- thanks again.

Wittsend


"I need to know where to splice in my pinto coil wire (start/run) into the tbird coil wiring harness"


Update, I believe I need to correct myself. From what I am seeing (spent about a hour looking into this) there is a wire from the key start switch to the coil. If you have that voltage (assumed 12V) then I'd look to the PIP (distributor trigger), TFI or the ECU. From what I can tell the distributors PIP sends a signal to the TFI module (likely to amplify the weak signal), then to the ECU???, then back to another section of the TFI??? then to the coil.  It is what is happening between the TFI and the ECU that is confusing. I do MUCH better when everything is laid out in a progressive timeline but what schematic ever does that? (self answered question, NONE)


BTW, on my '88 the two wires to the coil come down the drivers side, across the radiator cradle then half the way back to the firewall to get to the coil. Was this done for isolation???


Did all this run before you acquired it?  Having now done this with a donor car I'd never do a swap just collecting parts. There are just too many little things to be acconted for.




rowdyrunabout

alright, thought I had it straight. Tracked down ignition wire to coil pos, to dist, and it actually ran to ecu relay. Found that I needed a start wire splice to dist (pin 4). I believe I've accounted for the needed wires to fire it up. Still won't start. Turning over not trying to start. Tested the coil. Secondary was bad. went and got a new one and put it in-(didn't test before I started- should have). tried to start- nothing. tested that coil primary-good. Tested the secondary----bad-wide open. Any Ideas? thx

rowdyrunabout

That's great info- and I think gets me pointed in the right direction. I'll do a few more volt readings, ohm checks, and review the info you attached. Then let you know what happens.
Thanks to both of you for your help!!!

oldkayaker

I have no experience with the 1984 TC but did find some on line wiring diagrams, see links below.  It looks like the 84 TC uses a resistor in the wire between the coil negative terminal and the computer.  It also appears the coil positive terminal gets full voltage (no resistor) from the ignition switch.  The 76 Pinto uses a resistor wire from the ignition switch run/start position to the coil positive terminal according to the ETM.
http://www.mc-machine.com/pdf/1984.pdf
http://foureyedpride.com/pdfs/83_84_Turbo4_EEC.pdf                VERY LARGE FILE
http://www.rothfam.com/svo/reference/84SVO.pdf
http://www.rothfam.com/svo/reference/84Mustang-Thunderbird.pdf
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

Wittsend


This link, starting at post #7 onward might be helpful. You can also search out Jerry (Old Kayaker) and see if he has other posts. In the past (but not much recently) he would reply to these types of questions.

http://www.fordpinto.com/general-pinto-talk/turbo-pinto-5-years-finally-running-right!!!/msg139744/#msg139744

rowdyrunabout

ok- thanks. I ohmed that gray hard shell. did lead to the coil. I wired my coil hot. still won't fire. the ecu gets warm- not sure if that should happen or not! I have the feeling the ecu is not sending signals- guess I need to pull a sensor and check-
brain was good when I started- so was the ecu!

Wittsend

I don't the the exact answer. Many the ECU's were wired differently. And I swapped the steering column and harness  from my '88 T/C donor car. So, I never had to deal with that.  There was a resistance wire in the column that might have been for the coil. IF..., (and, I don't know) the Pinto had a resistance wire as well it would (at least should) need to be rated the same as the T/C setup.

All that said, I believe (but am not not 100% sure) there is a constant 12V+ (nominal) voltage to the coil. IF..., it works like points and say..., the Pertronix systems the coil is always 12V+ hot and the pulsing of the ground is what triggers the coil.

Jerry (Old Kayaker) posts some the the manual information and if you search this site you may find your answer.  Sorry I'm no more help, but hope you get an answer soon.

rowdyrunabout

I have a 76 runabout with an 84 turbo tbird swap. I think I'm down to one wire from starting it.
I have no fire. I need to know where to splice in my pinto coil wire (start/run) into the tbird coil wiring harness.
I'm sure there was a wire from the tbird donor car, but I only pulled the engine harness. I think I have it narrowed down to a gray hard shell that probably went back to the tbird fuse panel. Is it as simple as taking my red pinto coil wire to the pos side of the tbird coil? 1 1/2 yrs on this- can't afford to make a mistake. Thanks to anyone that can point me in the right direction. while I have attention, I need to know where my aftermarket tach wire goes in the turbo harness?