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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

The Pinto Stampede 2016! "Blue Ridge to the Blue Oval"

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dga57

Spent a delightful evening with the 2016 Stampede gang; shared some pizza and some laughs.  Met new friends and reunited with old ones.  Rain dampened the fun a bit (pun very definitely intended) but in the end we all had a good time.  Also, a big shout out of thanks to Paul Obaugh Ford in Staunton, VA for hosting our Stampede participants and their Pintos! 


Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dga57

Quote from: 72pair on June 01, 2016, 04:24:52 PM
Took my Bobcat and met up with the group for the start this morning. Joined in until the first fuel stop, then sadly had to turn for home. There is nothing like cruising the Parkway in the midst of a dozen Pinto fanatics! This is a great group and I highly encourage anyone to join the ride, if only for a short segment. Safe Travels Pinto Friends!

;D Well said! ;D   
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72pair

Took my Bobcat and met up with the group for the start this morning. Joined in until the first fuel stop, then sadly had to turn for home. There is nothing like cruising the Parkway in the midst of a dozen Pinto fanatics! This is a great group and I highly encourage anyone to join the ride, if only for a short segment. Safe Travels Pinto Friends!
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dga57

Hey Pinto Peeps!


Just a reminder that the Sixth Annual Pinto Stampede is leaving Little Switzerland, NC this morning.  Please keep them in your thoughts and prayers. 
They will be stopping overnight in Meadows of Dan, VA. 


Safe Travels,
Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

flash041

You got that right Tommy! For added fun bring a CB radio along. They are useful for keeping the group together, and the comments of the truckers are PRICELESS! I will be bringing along a couple of vintage portables if you cant get one in time. 
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1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

DreamBean

They have other motels that cheaper in Carlisle. I will not be able to hang with the crew at the motel as we cannot afford it this year. But that don't mean we won't have a blast. As for those that have never done a Stampede, IT IS SO MUCH F U N!!!!!!!!!!
Go Ford, Go Fast Or Go Home!

flash041

I just talked to a couple who are not going on the Stampede . One of the reasons they stated was the high cost of the hotel in Carlisle. If you don't mind camping, it's only $35   for the weekend. There are bathrooms and showers available. I camped there in 2011 and will be camping again this year. It was a lot of fun and worked great! Looking forward to seeing everyone in a few weeks!
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1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

dga57

Quote from: flash041 on April 19, 2016, 11:33:58 AM
Looking forward to meeting you too! Your not far from Carlisle come along!



I'm planning/hoping to make a day trip to Carlisle at some point while the group is there.  The problem is that my wife is in really, really bad health.  She's not up to the trip and she can't be left alone, so what I'm able to do will depend on my son's and/or daughter-in-law's work schedule (they live with us and help me take care of her).  Cody is normally off on Saturdays and Brittany's schedule varies a lot as she just started a new job and she pretty much has to work whatever they throw at her.  It's not a bad little drive; I actually made two separate trips up there in 2011 during the first Stampede!  Because I'll be sort of pushing it to get up there, spend the day, and get back home that night, I will probably forego driving the Pinto.  I have a Ram pickup, a Jaguar XJL, and a Mustang convertible that are all much newer and more reliable.  I'll probably bring the Pinto out on Wednesday when I meet up with all of you in Waynesboro.  Regardless, I am really looking forward to it!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

flash041

Looking forward to meeting you too! Your not far from Carlisle come along!

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1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

dga57

Quote from: flash041 on April 19, 2016, 06:10:45 AM
Got my reservations made !  At Carlisle I will be camping . Also as a reminder anyone coming from the mid-west I ,along with a few others , will be spending the night in Lexington Ky, Monday Memorial day.

I'm looking forward to meeting you AND seeing that gorgeous Cruising Wagon of yours!  I won't officially be participating in the Stampede but I live in Waynesboro, Virginia (last overnight stop before Carlisle) and will be meeting up with the group there for meals and, hopefully, some other fun activities I'm trying to put together! 

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

flash041

Got my reservations made !  At Carlisle I will be camping . Also as a reminder anyone coming from the mid-west I ,along with a few others , will be spending the night in Lexington Ky, Monday Memorial day.
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1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

fordraceman15

I will be making a list of pinto parts for sale at Carlisle.

Norman Bagi

Still some room on the Stampede, and if you cannot make it, then get to Carlisle for the party at the end......

dga57

The Pinto I had in 2011 was not roadworthy to consider taking it on the Stampede to Carlisle, but I drove up to the Flight 93 Memorial in the '08 Chrysler Sebring convertible I used to have and met up with the Stampede participants when they stopped there.  I joined them for the drive from there to Carlisle, bringing up the rear so as not to detract from the Pintos, and had a ball!  The only thing that would have made it more fun would have been to be driving a Pinto instead.  This year, the final overnight stop before Carlisle is in my hometown, Waynesboro, VA, so I'll definitely be meeting up with everyone upon their arrival here.  Looking forward to it!  My current Pinto would most likely make the trip just fine, but my wife is severely disabled and so I probably won't make any attempt to take it, although I do intend to, at the very least, make a day trip to Carlisle.


Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

flash041

WELL SAID SCOTT!!
                          To add to what he said, if you cant do the whole trip consider doing a segment or two. We have had people do exactly that on every Stampede. Some  just meet us unexpectedly at one of our many stops. Some with Pintos, others without , just to see our cars.
                           Last year in Metropolis , a gentleman with a Cruising Wagon , like mine, drove to meet us there. I was running late an another stop. The car had some damage on the passenger side door and front fender. Jim Madison,knowing it was not my car, got a few of the others going saying what are we going to tell Dave about the damage to his car! Then I showed up with my car. We all had a good laugh!!  Just one of the fun memorable moments on the Stampede trail.


Dave

     
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1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

79prostreet

Thanks for the nudge Scott, with Pinto now done I have been looking to make some of these outings. This one is a long way from home for me but have been shaking the piggy bank and looking at my work load to see if it might be possible. As always time zips by quickly so I need to keep my eye on the prize and see if it can happen this time.
79prostreet

Scott Hamilton

Guys and Gals,

I have been asked several times if I will be able to attend this years Stampede and especially since it's in my backyard. Due to changing jobs recently, I will not be able to attend this year but I wanted to take a moment to encourage anyone on the fence to join the Stampede...

Norm and his crew have created an incredible yearly car drive that raises money for a wonderful charity. Not only do you get to drive days with several other Pintos, you get to participate in a Car Show that punctuates the entire experience. Every Stampede I have participated in has been outstandingly fun and I mean fun! If you are a Pinto owner and can participate in this event, do everything you can to be there- seriously. There is no feeling that I can remember that was so cool as driving with a fleet of Pintos (30+ in 2011) down a highway and seeing all the rubberneckers go nuts about all those Pintos!

Most of you don't know but the Stampede caused a wreck in Iowa (Norm correct me if I'm wrong about the location)... We were traveling down the in highway with all those Pintos and we were getting the usual compulsorily stares and then eventual phone picture swam leading to jaw dropping envy... (It's predictable. really it is... this is fact!!) .. A Jeep was destined to stop at this traffic light but because he or she was looking so intently at the line of Pintos traveling by- the jeep slammed into another car.. smash bang!!  REALLY!! The reason I have first hand knowledge of this is because the wreck happened about 5 feet from my Pinto! I was driving with my son along this nice rural highway and saw the jeep ogling the Stampede as usual and WHAM! ..wreck! ... I was riding last in line on the Stampede and was almost a participant! I was a little shaken up by the may lay and drifted away from the group making sure no one was hurt over my shoulder... Norm called after a few min to see if everything was alright.. the entire Stampede saw what had happened. Just a little fender bender, nothing serious... thankfully!

I writing this now to let you know that riding with the Stampede (if you are a Pinto Guy or Gal) is something you MUST do... Not that you will cause wrecks but that you understand the public's draw to these cars and especially since it was the most prolific car of that time almost EVERYONE has a Pinto story or memory that is endearing to them and will be shared... you must experience this! Most of you already have at many cars shows but driving with a fleet of Pintos it magnifies any response to an incredible degree!  You must experience it!

I had, like most, my Pinto project in parts and pieces on the floor of my garage for years... many years... After Norm announced the first Stampede, I decided to get one of my cars together to run with the group. I would have not found the impetus to complete one of my cars if not for the Stampede. Use this event to spur you forward to complete your Project... it will be worth it! Use this Stampede event to get your project cars done, get your car ready and participate in this great event. Do Not miss this,,, really,,, DON'T MISS THIS!! Only those folks that have participated in this event will understand this,, Don't Miss this!

You won't find a more gracious host and excellent ride along partners that these folks. Norm and his crew are Tops!

Please don't miss this!!
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LongTimeFordMan

I plan to drive from the dallas area and meet up the convoy at roanoake. Anyone else from the texas, oklahoma area or points west going?
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flash041

I will be traveling from Wisconsin leaving Memorial Day Monday May 30th stopping for the night in Lexington KY. On the 31th I will complete the trip to Little Switzerland. Any one wanting to tag along are welcome! I will plan a couple of interesting stops along the way.
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Norman Bagi

Little Switzerland is on the Blue Ridge Parkway and at the top of the Diamond Back (separate road, Route 226A) a road with big inclines, switchback turns and shear drop offs.  So for those who want to dare this, I recommend your Pony be fit for the task.  Second, do this on Tuesday on your way into Little Switzerland (I am going to do this, even though it will be out of the way for me) so we will all be ready for departure on Wednesday morning. More to come.........

Norman Bagi

The start will be in Little Switzerland NC.  I am trying to secure hotel rates for us and will post that at a later date.  Please email me all your information if you intend to go since this will be how information is sent out.
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dga57

Norm,
Just one quick question... where is the starting point?
Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Norman Bagi

Ladies and gentlemen we are returning to Carlisle and the Ford Nationals!

Sign up for the Stampede for the ride of a lifetime or just come to Carlisle. Either way don't miss this thinking I'll catch the next one.
The Stampede will drive one of the country's most scenic roads the Blue Ridge Parkway!  Beautiful mountains, rolling hills and stops along the way.  (June 1st-June 3rd) Our caravan of Pintos final destination will be the Carlisle Ford Nationals and a celebration of the 45th anniversary of the beloved Pinto. (June 3rd-June 5th)

How many Pintos can we get to Carlisle this time?
Five years ago we had 70 Pinto's in attendance.
Can we come close to this number?
Can we surpass it?
Sign up for the Stampede for the ride of a lifetime or just come to Carlisle. Either way don't miss this thinking I'll catch the next one.

For more information or to sign on, email the "Trail Boss" Norman Bagi at bosspinto@pintostampede.com [/b][/b]