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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

71 - 72 FUEL TANK INSTALL (not a wagon)

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Crazy Lacy

I got to order the e1az-9072-b for my 72 runabout. Ebay has the best price a little over $17 . Not ALL of the e1az-9072-b SELL sites say pinto use. But a part # is a Part #. My Original # reads D8AC 9072 AA.
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Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

65ShelbyClone

FYI, I put an E1AZ-9072-B grommet in my car a few weeks ago and it's sealing fine with a full tank. I think this part number cross-refs to a lot of Fox3 chassis cars too.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

74 PintoWagon

I got one of those grommets, haven't had a chance to put it in yet though but I gotta do it pretty soon, some dork put about 2 tubes of silicone around the filler pipe and gas is starting to seep through if I fill the tank all the way up, I'm thinking they did that just to sell it nobody could be that dumb to use silicone to seal up gas, LOL..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

oldkayaker

A 72 fuel tank filler grommet fits nicely in a 79 tank but I did not have the ability to check for leaks.  SSC below advertises a universal replacement.
http://www.sscenterprises.net/4images/details.php?image_id=83
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

Reeves1

Don't know if 76 is the same as 72s.

Original part number is : D8AC-9072-AA

My notes say part number : E3AC-9072-AA work as well.

and as posted above : E1AZ-9072-B

scion66

Hi I just picked up a 76 pinto. Filled the tank gas started leaking out. It's coming from the seal were the fill tube goes into the tank. Were can I get a new seal. HELP. Jim

Wittsend

I recall my instructions saying to "install the pressure sensitive gas tank fuse towards the rear."   ;D

yhalkeeiron

If you need a sending unit float you can get a new plastic one at Amazon.com for 5$   My had a bunch of pin holes in it

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amc49

FYI, for added safety confidence one can look up a rounded rear axle center cover if you have the one with points at the outer corners, the points were often the puncture creators in accidents, the rounded cover has no points to punch holes in the tank...................

Reeves1

I have all the parts (not sure on fill neck, as I have not pulled the tank yet - this summer though ?)

I'll never use the parts.

Scott - you want them so you (or someone) can have new ones made ?

Has all the mounting hardware.

Off of a 72.

Shoot me a PM - first time reading this topic.

Starliner

Hello Scott,
A very late follow-up. 
I had mailed the instructions to "eastcoast" because he said:
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if you can find the directions that would be great.

I plan to photograph the entire thing so I can post those for future reference.
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"eastcoast" did not follow through.
I should have mailed the instructions to you instead.

You have a great site, I still drop by since my wife's Mustang II is very similar to the Pinto. 

Best regards
1973 Pinto 1600 - Sold!  
1979 Pinto 2300 - Sold!
1984 Audi 5000 Avant - 60,000 original miles
1987 Audi 5000 S Quattro - The snowmobile
1973 Volvo 1800 ES wagon -  my project car
1976 Mustang II - Wifey's new toy

pintorino

Wow! I never realized that there was so many parts involved with the recall.
How can I tell if my 73 has had those parts installed? There isn't a label on it stating that the retro-fit was performed like I have seen on other cars. I'm assuming that it hasn't because the plastic shield is not there. Is there a part number on the filler pipe to look for in wrecking yards? I know that I could just look for the shield but what if the tank is missing?

Scott Hamilton

Star liner,

I never received the instructions... What address did you send them.. The PO box for the site has been dropped and I found all the older posts referencing this and changed accordingly...  Let me know.
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Starliner

I mailed the installation instructions and he did not follow-up with scanning and posting.
Even though we do not have a Pinto now, I still love the Pinto community. (Hey, we have a Mustang II, close enough!)
Anyway, I found an online link that has the instructions for everyone.

You will need to scroll down in the linked document to find the instructions.  Maybe that file should be downloaded to the site for future reference if it goes away.   Give it time to download, it's a large scanned file of old typed documents.

Link: http://www.autosafety.org/sites/default/files/imce_staff_uploads/Pinto%20Recall.pdf

Happy 2013 New Year, Rene
1973 Pinto 1600 - Sold!  
1979 Pinto 2300 - Sold!
1984 Audi 5000 Avant - 60,000 original miles
1987 Audi 5000 S Quattro - The snowmobile
1973 Volvo 1800 ES wagon -  my project car
1976 Mustang II - Wifey's new toy

Jessi

I am interested in finding out where you get the filler tube and seal. My filler tube is rusted pretty bad inside, and the seal leaks.
2009 Ford F350 15 pass van
2002 Jeep Wrangler
1975 Ford Pinto Sedan

Scott Hamilton

Quote from: Starliner on September 21, 2011, 08:07:28 PM
The recall instructions were mailed to you.

When you guys are done with the instructions, mail them to me so I can get them up on the site as a pdf for everyone's reference.

PM Me when ready,

Scott
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

Fehrion_sit

hey guys, could i get a copy of those instructions too, were are looking to put a new tank in due to rust.

http://www.amazon.com/Spectra-Premium-F80A-Mustang-Pinto/dp/B0049QQ49W/ref=au_pf_pfg_s?ie=UTF8&Model=Pinto%7C693&n=15684181&s=automotive&Make=Ford%7C54&Year=1972%7C1972&vehicleType=automotive&newCar=1&carId=001

does this look fimilar, the tank does not have a year listed but shape wise, it is correct, i just want to make sure i get the right one.

Starliner

The recall instructions were mailed to you.
1973 Pinto 1600 - Sold!  
1979 Pinto 2300 - Sold!
1984 Audi 5000 Avant - 60,000 original miles
1987 Audi 5000 S Quattro - The snowmobile
1973 Volvo 1800 ES wagon -  my project car
1976 Mustang II - Wifey's new toy

Starliner

I found the instructions.   It's called "Installation Instructions for Campaign #293". 
It is approximately 10 pages.

Yes, it would be good information to share for the Pinto group.  It is also important to have the kit installed correctly the safety of everyone.  I would be willing to mail this to you if you email me the pictures in case I need the information again.

You can use the Ford Pinto website message system to contact me. 
Are you going to the Ohio meet on Sunday?  I should be there. 
1973 Pinto 1600 - Sold!  
1979 Pinto 2300 - Sold!
1984 Audi 5000 Avant - 60,000 original miles
1987 Audi 5000 S Quattro - The snowmobile
1973 Volvo 1800 ES wagon -  my project car
1976 Mustang II - Wifey's new toy

eastcoast

Thank you!

if you can find the directions that would be great.

I plan to photograph the entire thing so I can post those for future reference.


Starliner

I installed the gas tank recall kit on my 73 Pinto.  Do you have the instructions? 

Yes, the filler tube mounts from the inside.  You install it with the gas tank already in the car.
First I would suggest buying a new filler tube seal.

Remove the rear tire on the filler side. 
Install the new filler seal in the gas tank. 
Add a thin film of grease over the filler tube end for about 3-4 inches and over the sealing area of the filler seal.  (later the grease will mix with the gas, no problem)
Hold the filler tube while it is hanging out the wheel opening and install into the filler tube seal that is in the tank.  You will need to apply pressure and rotate the filler tube back & forth at the same time until it enters the filler seal and gas tank.  Once inside the gas tank you can rotate the filler tube up to where it belongs.   You will need to drill new mounting holes. 

The plastic shield should come with some brackets that attach where the gas tank straps are.   There is also a 2nd smaller plastic shield. 
I will see if I can find the instruction sheet for the plastic shield.   It is hard to explain.   



1973 Pinto 1600 - Sold!  
1979 Pinto 2300 - Sold!
1984 Audi 5000 Avant - 60,000 original miles
1987 Audi 5000 S Quattro - The snowmobile
1973 Volvo 1800 ES wagon -  my project car
1976 Mustang II - Wifey's new toy

eastcoast


I am getting ready to install a new(old) fuel tank and replace the standard filler with the longer, recall one and install the recall tank shield.

The recall fill tube looks as if does not fit in to the car from the outside, but must be install from the underside.  This would seem to suggest that the fill tube needs to be positioned in the chassis first and then into the tank grommet prior to positioning and strapping the tank into the body.

Is the the correct install sequence using these parts?

Finally how does the tank plastic guard get positioned onto the tank straps?

FYI I just purchased these at my local for dealer and they work:

SEAL-FU TNK FILL PIPE LWR
Part #: E1AZ9072B
Pack Qty: 2    $28.00
   1   $28.00


Thanks for any directions and or photos of a completed install.