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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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ToniJ1960

 Well so far almost 300 miles almost ready to add the second tube of three. Another 600 miles I can say its helped or hasnt.

One thing I know, when I took the oil filler cap off before while it was running a steady stream of smoke always made its way out. I assume with it off theres no way for the blow by to be pulled into the air cleaner cover.

Now when I take it off theres no darn sight of smoke in there I looked and looked.

At least no Pinto Stroke yet.

amc49

Look at their 'science' there as partially expounded by them and think it out....................if the 'metal' only rebuilds at friction areas of the engine then every rub point in engine would fill up to lock the engine up. They themselves say the 'metal' fills up all clearances. NOT doing so means the filler 'metal' whatever that could be is NOT hard enough to resist wear. The catch 22 there and impossible.

And using an engraver to mark up bearing steel? GOOD bearing steel is virtually untouched by an engraver BTDT. Even diamond tip ones. AND absolutely no way is a coat-on type plating going to replicate the toughness of that 6 ways from sundown heat treat, no way on earth! They speak of 'factory machine marks', all bearings micropolish to finish and virtually no rotational marking on them that can be perceived by eye at all. If so the bearing is junk before even used. So, they do not even know what they are looking at. I do, a cheap non-hardened piece of steel and not bearing quality at all. No rebuild process on earth can rebuild chipping in a super hard bearing surface. You start all over with brand new part.

As to what other people say.......................I sold lots and lots of engine and trans additives while I was in the parts business and can say other than using intended lubes any gimmick claims of rebuilding were just that, NONE of that stuff works. I lied to customers just like all other counter guys are pushed to do. The human mind being what it is is what warps people to claim they think things are better but most were only fooling themselves.

Why I have never run any sort of special fuel or engine/trans additive other than proper clean oil or whatever in any car over 45+ years now. I can come up with a whole list of reasons NOT to use them as well, they often damage cars if they go past doing nothing.

76hotrodpinto

Besides it not working, my concern would be, say it does stay on the metal, I don't see it lasting in any friction area, particularly in scorched areas. But I can see it clinging to the inside of the oil journal passages. I'd say it's a recipe for pinto stroke!
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

ToniJ1960

Quote from: amc49 on February 05, 2015, 01:47:31 AM
I personally would not waste five seconds with that product but do as you will. Just like in the fishing industry and why they keep designing new and more colorful lures to hook them again and again. The eternal grasping at straws.

The oil pressure drops because the soft bearing parts are dead and they aren't made of steel. Much better off doing as pinto_one suggests.

Absolutely no one will EVER convince me you can simply rebuild bearing race steel like that. The website description of how they do it wouldn't hold up under true scientific analysis. 'Uncompensated bonds',  that's a good one...................

I had a little red lazy ike lure once that really worked great those silver ones that look like a fish didnt do a thing :)

Since we got surprised with snow it will be this weekend when I give it a shot. Just posting for anyone who wants to follow I wont be more surprised if it helps than I will be if it doesnt. But theres a lot of people who say it has done things.

76hotrodpinto

Quote from: amc49 on February 05, 2015, 01:47:31 AM
I personally would not waste five seconds with that product but do as you will. Just like in the fishing industry and why they keep designing new and more colorful lures to hook them again and again. The eternal grasping at straws.

The oil pressure drops because the soft bearing parts are dead and they aren't made of steel. Much better off doing as pinto_one suggests.

Absolutely no one will EVER convince me you can simply rebuild bearing race steel like that. The website description of how they do it wouldn't hold up under true scientific analysis. 'Uncompensated bonds',  that's a good one...................


I have to agree. Metallurgic snake oil.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

amc49

I personally would not waste five seconds with that product but do as you will. Just like in the fishing industry and why they keep designing new and more colorful lures to hook them again and again. The eternal grasping at straws.

The oil pressure drops because the soft bearing parts are dead and they aren't made of steel. Much better off doing as pinto_one suggests.

Absolutely no one will EVER convince me you can simply rebuild bearing race steel like that. The website description of how they do it wouldn't hold up under true scientific analysis. 'Uncompensated bonds',  that's a good one...................

pinto_one

here is a photo of the bottom end to give you an idea , and a rod bearing , the pinto crank is very tough ,I have seen  bearings down to the steel backing and the crank polished out and did not need to be cut undersize ,
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ToniJ1960

 The noise doesnt seem to be getting any worse I may be seeing a psi or two less lately. Xado is a ceramic treatment thats supposed to coat parts and a lot of people say it raised their oil pressure again but we`ll find out

pinto_one

that is bad,I had that happen to me years ago , and the one reason I will never use that type of line again, I use electric gauges that have senders and no lines to break , did not know that you my have run the engine out of oil, may explain the lose in oil pressure you have , the treatment may not help, the treatment is a cleaner and will make the oil thinner and you may see a lose of a few more pounds of pressure on the gauge , if you do the bearings are gone, if the noise is not getting worse you may be lucky and not have damaged the crank,  one is pull the pan and have a look at one of the rod bearings , a big job for someone that has never done it before , you can change the main and rod bearings with the engine still in the car , if the noise gets worse, do not drive the car anymore until it can be fixed,
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

ToniJ1960

 And yes it ha  the small white plastic tube I put a new one on it last year after it happened. I think I noticed less oil presure after  replacing the 3 quarts it lost :( I was just happy it still ran as well as it did then. Now I want to see if this helps it.

ToniJ1960

 When that hose broke 3 or 4 months  ago, I los two or three quarts of oil. I actually think I lost most of it when I left home and didnt see the oil gauge until on my way home, at zero. Found the puddle and trail when I got home. I drove it two or three miles to get home anyway at zero. I thought it was probably done for anyway. Maybe the slick 50 I put in in 89 or 90 helped.

Anyway I got the xado today going to try it I can hear some rattle in the motor too someone told me it was loose rods, more tinny sound than a lifter I think.

pinto_one

Hi Toni , glad you got your starter changed and got it running , on the oil pressure it might not be anything wrong , the line that broke was it the very very small white plastic line , if it is the cold may have something to do with it, one, if it is below freezing the oil may be to thick to sent the gauge the right pressure , and also will make the line very brittle and hard and will break very easy if it had a small kink in it , hope you did not lose much oil when it did , they pump a lot of oil out on the road before you know it, if it is losing the oil pressure it is not much, you may have a sticking oil pressure relief valve, if your going to use a treatment use the oil you have in the engine , after a few days the pressure does come back up the valve was sticking , it happens more often in cold weather because the pump housing is aluminum and the valve is steel,
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

ToniJ1960

 Well my 78 2.3 always had 44 or so psi at idle and would go up to 60 or more with rpms raised. It was the same from 1988 until recently so its not been a gradual change.

Now it starts out just under 40 at cold idle, and will climb some to 45-50 maybe with rpms raised and held steady

Hot it drops to about 35 and wont get back to 40 with rpms  raised.

I think this came about a few months bck when I drove a few miles with no oil pressure. The stupid little hose from the oil pressure gauge broke.

So Im going to try that xado and see if it helps.

In case anyone is interested I will post my results and observations in here.

Anyone know if it would be best to change the oil before I begin the treatment? Doesnt have a lot of miles on the oil and filter but probably 4 or 5 months. Ther car was sitting with the bad starter and leaking vc gasket, while I drove my vette.