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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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amc49

Assuming 27 inch tall tire X 3.14 (pi) =84.78 inch circumference circle divided by 360 degrees = .235" (almost 1/4 inch) at tire OD for a FULL degree, divided by 5 for .2 tenths = .047" toe or .2 degree. That is on a single tire, double it up for total. Or half it if the number was total toe.

ALL cars pretty much have some small amount of bumpsteer, the front end attachment points are calculated to minimize that, once you change them you can make car absolutely undriveable.......


74 PintoWagon

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on July 24, 2014, 06:32:05 PM

Nah, that's under 1/4"
That's right, duhhh that was dumb.. :-[ ::) ;D
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

RICH73PINTOV8

think I got it figured out! what I have is called bump steer,the rack was lowered by 1-2 inches to clear the oil pan so I have to lower the tie rods to spindle mount the same amount. just have to figure out what adjustable bump steer kit to get.
1973 pinto 302 ci

2013 can am renegade 1000cc
2011 victory cross roads 1700cc
2011 ski doo renegade 1200cc

Pinto5.0

Quote from: dick1172762 on July 24, 2014, 06:50:03 PM
1/5 of a deg or 12 minutes.

My bad. I was thinking .2 of an inch not a degree.
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dick1172762

1/5 of a deg or 12 minutes.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

Pinto5.0

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on July 24, 2014, 06:01:34 PM
Dang, that's almost a half inch that's too much..

Nah, that's under 1/4"
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

74 PintoWagon

Dang, that's almost a half inch that's too much..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

Pinto5.0

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on July 23, 2014, 09:29:28 PM
What is .20 degrees in inches?, saw these specs in an older thread..

13/64th's is as close as I get
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

RICH73PINTOV8

WELL I FOUND OUT THAT WHEN THE SUSPENSION GOES UP THE TOE GOES WAY POSITIVE AND WHEN THE SUSPENSION GOES DOWN THE TOE GOES WAY NEGITIVE????/ MABEE THE GEOMETRY OF THE RACK&PINNION ANGLE?    CAMBER AND CASTER STAY GOOD BOTH UP AND DOWN?????//
1973 pinto 302 ci

2013 can am renegade 1000cc
2011 victory cross roads 1700cc
2011 ski doo renegade 1200cc

dick1172762

Your toe is off. You've got toe out when you should have toe in. Toe out will make the car do strange thing and the faster you go the car will dart from side to side.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

dick1172762

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on July 23, 2014, 09:29:28 PM
What is .20 degrees in inches?, saw these specs in an older thread..

Caster: .5*- to 1*+
Camber: .25*- to 1.25*+
Toe in: 0 to .250"

1/5 of a deg ????
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

Reeves1

Flex cable will not be the problem. Unless damaged ?

74 PintoWagon

What is .20 degrees in inches?, saw these specs in an older thread..

Caster: .5*- to 1*+
Camber: .25*- to 1.25*+
Toe in: 0 to .250"
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

RICH73PINTOV8

ok I set camber to +.1 degrees caster to +3.0 degrees and toe in to .20 degrees  and this cars front end wont handle at all???? very scary to drive?????when you step on gas vers 1 way and let off vers the other way? also all over the road over bumps???? I think the toe is changing way too much when the suspension goes up and down????   any answers? I bought this car with the v8 conversion done the seller said it was the flexible steering shaft between the column and rack&pinnion??????   thanks rich 908-872-2237
1973 pinto 302 ci

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2011 ski doo renegade 1200cc

amc49

Yeah, you get no complaints that way, why I've not paid for anything ever.............needing vehicle NOW can be a problem though, but why you have multiple cars to drop back and punt with. Getting harder now though, what I used to do in a day takes 3-4 now. Especially in this heat.

Don't they have any kind of anti-over quote laws there? Like they MUST inform you again if cost rises by more than ten percent? It drives mechs crazy here, Dad was on the phone all the time it seemed when situations changed being as fluid as they are. Everybody says they only want this or that knowing full well whatever system involved is totally dead and needing complete overhaul. Fix it all without that release OK though and you are prime for a lawsuit.................

Much of it is in how you phrase the intended repair, if you just say fix it, you open the doors wide to excessive charges. You gotta put some traps in there for them.

74 PintoWagon

If ya want it done "right" ya gotta do it yourself..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

Reeves1

Or they could do like the local Ford dealer did to me with the swing arm bushings....

Had the service girl go ask the senior mechanic if he could do the job : press out old & install new ones. I supply parts.

Told he said yes & it would take 1 to 1.5 hours & the shop rate is $127.?? / hour.

Go to pock them up & the price is $441.??

Asked to see the manager & he said he was giving me a break as it really took 4 hours, because he had to make a tool to do the job.

I asked him if it crossed his mind to call me before spending my money. Nope.

Only went there because all other places were busy & couldn't do it for weeks.
Other places looked at the parts & told me no problem & it would only take an hour tops.

Not the first time this dealer shafted me though.

Trans service on my 2012 F-350 was quoted $400.00
Wife picked it up for me and they charged $600.00 -----and it was still 2 LTS low on oil !


74 PintoWagon

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on July 15, 2014, 10:14:19 PM

That's fine, I was just hoping it wasn't so old they were gonna tell me they have no clue how to do it.
Well, it's not really that old and there's still a lot of them on the road, I bought my new tires at Big O and the guy told me they just rebuilt a front end two weeks before on Pinto, I'm sure Firestone should be able to do it too..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

amc49

The tool not absolutely needed but makes it easier to hold setting points in space while you tighten, they can easily shift while doing so. I used to semi loosen the bolts and then slight taps with hammer to move a bit at a time.

Pinto5.0

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on July 15, 2014, 10:06:52 PM
They sure will, but you have to pay for it.. ;D

That's fine, I was just hoping it wasn't so old they were gonna tell me they have no clue how to do it.
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'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
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74 PintoWagon

They sure will, but you have to pay for it.. ;D
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

Pinto5.0

Here's a stupid question but if I take my 73 to Firestone they will be able to align it wont they?
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

82expghost

rotunda T74P-3000A , I believe this is what your looking for, go to ebay
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amc49

Probably talking about the pointed boss with stud threaded in it to slowly move the caster/camber around, they are adjusted together on these. Top control arm moves outer point forward/backward and in/out from centerline of car at same time when bolt loosened...............not strictly necessary but makes it easier.

Reeves1

Didn't see any Pinto ones ? Am I missing something ?

74 PintoWagon

Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

Reeves1

Quote from: D.R.Ball on July 06, 2014, 08:16:03 PM
You need the tools to do the adjustment. Look in the factory service manual for your year. The tools and manual show up at EBay.com from time to time...And no I really doubt that your local service center has the tools...

I want !
If anyone has a set (?) let me know !
I will buy them !

amc49

I made close to the same type thing and used for a while, but just simpler to look up front and rear track widths for mental note and comparison, then assume rear axle on RWD is square and then shoot a line to front tires and compare as the line shot passes front tire where it is. Any thing within a 1/16" will work fine, all that computer crap on alignment machine spouting this side off by .1 degree is just that, crap. The rubber parts alone allow for deflection of 1/16"+ from simply sitting still to dynamic and moving. Meaning all the online arguments about this or that setting varying by 1/10 degree are usually bullsh-t.

A little more complex on FWD but still easily doable, I've done 200mph race cars that stayed dead straight doing it, no troubles at all. A laser would make it a bit easier but I haven't seen enough issue to get one yet.

Front to rear tracking (thrust) can be checked pretty easy by finding say a park, dead flat parking lot and run car a few feet to line out straight with steering wheel where it stays on freeway at speed and when lined out then cross a slight water puddle after rain with all four wheels, roll out to dry tires and then go back and look at the front to rear wheel tracking marks laid down by tires. One set should be pretty much centered on the other. A great free tool.

RICH73PINTOV8

thanks for all the replies, I will be putting it on my alignment machine in next two weeks, thanks rich
1973 pinto 302 ci

2013 can am renegade 1000cc
2011 victory cross roads 1700cc
2011 ski doo renegade 1200cc

Wittsend

Agreed also. The only thing I'll add is that toe should be measured in an angle, not inches.  But, in the end inches are probably more accurate than any angle we can practically measure (how long would that line need to be before they intersected). The next point becomes where do you measure toe? From the rim edge? The tire? The same fractional measurement will mean different angles. Ideally you want to measure at the front/back outer circumference.

  Anyway, I always toiled with these things.  The last time I did toe I made a  bar out of bed frames(angle iron).  It was a length of iron to span the tires (I made it adjustable for different cars) with two perpendicular irons on either end. I then drilled bolt holes set 1/2" apart to adjust for various heights.  Lastly I had a pointed bolt with nuts one either side of the iron to adjust (pics 1 & 2). On the other end I had an eye bolt that was spring loaded (pic 3). The reason for this was so that I could move the adjustable bolt to just touch the rim at the front. Then to get the device around the tire I would pull back on the spring loaded eye bolt to move it past the tire, but because it was spring loaded, it would return to its original point.

  Looking for slight toe in, I did the back first then went to the front. My point of measurement was the vertical rim edge (but not where curb scrapes hit).  It sure beats a tape measure hitting oil pans and suspension parts measuring ambiguous tire tread. 

Here are some pictures.  I wasn't up for struggling it out of the rafters, so I shot the images upside down to hopefully give a better idea of how it can be used.