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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Starliner

amc49 has it right. 
So focus on doing these things:
1.  Make sure your idle is under 900 RPMs after it is off the choke.
2.  Run your gas down.  Fill it up with premium.   It really does not cost any more if you get rid of spark knocking since it will run more efficiently and improve the gas mileage.  Driveability will improve and your right foot will be rewarded. 
3. Make sure the engine is not running hot.    Good cooling system and the timing should not be retarded.  Pull your distributor cap and place 4 drops of oil on the felt underneath  This is what lubricates the mechanical advance.  Add 2 drops every 6 months there after. 
1973 Pinto 1600 - Sold!  
1979 Pinto 2300 - Sold!
1984 Audi 5000 Avant - 60,000 original miles
1987 Audi 5000 S Quattro - The snowmobile
1973 Volvo 1800 ES wagon -  my project car
1976 Mustang II - Wifey's new toy

amc49

Like said there was an alternator issue of some sort that could do it as well, there was a mod back in the day in one of the magazines (forgot who) that dealt with a slight rewire that fixed it. Had to do with residual field in alt then powering up spark when key cut off thinking. Or something close.

What gets really weird is when it does it and crank starts running BACKWARDS, don't see that everyday............the AMC race cars used to do it and sometimes then damaged rad hose when  the flex fan blades flexed out too much backwards. Since all were MTX we just started killing the key and dropping clutch to stop it. Really strange to see exhaust smoke come out the intake though.

blupinto

Is it dieseling or not shutting off at all? My '74 wagon dieseled after the car was shut off because of a bad carburetor adjustment (not naming names)... problem solved after I took the car to a carb shop. Ruby RedHot's engine would NOT shut off after her original voltage regulator was replaced (nothing wrong with it) with one for a V8 at Carlisle. I even took the key out of the ignition! Needless to say, the original VR was put back in and I haven't had that problem since.

One can never have too many Pintos!

amc49

The Webers used on these did come with those solenoids back in the day......................dunno if you can find them now..............

I used to not have one on my '74 but was forced to put it back on when they slowly dropped the gas quality in the '90s to totally stop mine from doing the same.

74 PintoWagon

What grinds me is that I'm in a totally smog exempt area but we're still stuck with this skunk pi$$.. >:(
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

amc49

I as well forgot about the ethanol having to run it in mostly PCM cars now. It will do exactly as said there, ethanol A/F ratio around 9/1 vs. gasoline at 14.7/1. And getting a standard percentage??? Good luck with that, here it is supposed to be E10 but they commonly cut more to be closer to 20%, they get the ethanol for a song due to federal subsidy on it making it cheaper than gas. Cutting it more makes more profit and no one checks the fuel percentage at all. Around here the car dealers commonly check the tank percentage at repair time and if warranty repair they disavow it and you have to pay out of your pocket. Seen news stories on it. The mileage varies all over the map now depending on the fuel in last fillup too making checking mileage closely virtually impossible.

If you live in an EPA non-attainment area there is no fuel choice, you are stuck with the stuff.

74 PintoWagon

That Ethanol sure is a pain, used to be able to leave a car sit for a week and it would fire right up,  now let it sit for 3 days and it hardly wants to start.. >:(
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

fozzy

Just some food for thought here..maybe the combustion chamber is running too hot and here is my theory..

One of the guys that I work with does alot of tuning, mostly newer GM vehicles. He uses HP tuners. His wife started complaining about how her vehicle was running. He initially dismissed it until he drove it and sure enough it was running like a bag of crap. He started testing and data logging it and other vehicles and came up with the reason. Ethanol.

The percentage of ethanol in the fuel was far higher than advertised wich throws off the stoichometric formula. He says "that the fuel mixture needs to be fattened up 4% for normally aspirated and 6% for turbo cars 9 (as a starting point).
Anyone using a wide band should shoot for 12.4 normally aspirated & 10.6 for Turbo cars"
Keep in mind that is what he found with the local fuels. He also managed to find out that Locally both Chevron and Co-Op do not use Ethanol.

Here is a link to some more info on the subject:
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/engine/1307_wideband_oxygen_sensor/

About 3/4 the way down the page there is a chart that shows the A/F ratios of various fuels.

74 PintoWagon

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on June 25, 2014, 01:18:37 PM

I've spent at least 50 hours over 2 years chasing this problem. I'm just changing EVERYTHING to eliminate all variables. I'm thinking I either have a bad head or intake gasket or god forbid, a head crack, Whatever is giving me the hot spots is going to ruin this 60K mile engine if I don't get it out & go though it.
Well, from the sound of it you may have something internal doing this probably time to dig into it, keep it up and it will be destructive for sure..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

Pinto5.0

Yeah but the hot spot is still causing pre-ignition under throttle which will eventually do serious damage if I let it continue.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

amc49

Where did that come from?

On after run, carbon glowing in chamber does it, it then needs fuel/air to keep running, and why you use a solenoid to drop idle setting to a totally closed throttle bore when key turned off. Richen jetting up and often it can disappear. If you have too much compression for the fuel octane used then give it up. In a few weird instances alternator residual output as motor spins down to die can do it too. Usually just having the solenoid on the throttle fixes it instantly. Can't after run with no fuel/air.

On water injection, use an expensive system with a variable setting computer, you don't wanna know what water injected motors look like inside when run with a bit too much water to them. The steam pitting of cylinder walls can utterly destroy them. Seen it more than once.

mallen

I need a rack and pinion for my 1979 pinto.. I need to measure the input shaft .. Is it the length of the shaft coming out of the rack??


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dick1172762

Spray water down the carb with the engine running. That will help get rid of the carbon on the head. Don't use a water hose! With a spray bottle, you can't put to much down the carb. Works for me.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

Pinto5.0

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on June 25, 2014, 12:46:03 PM
Oh ok... ;D

I've spent at least 50 hours over 2 years chasing this problem. I'm just changing EVERYTHING to eliminate all variables. I'm thinking I either have a bad head or intake gasket or god forbid, a head crack, Whatever is giving me the hot spots is going to ruin this 60K mile engine if I don't get it out & go though it.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

74 PintoWagon

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on June 25, 2014, 12:39:05 PM

Nah, I'm taking the easy way out & swapping the engine, distributor, ignition box & going to a new Weber 38 in hopes that cures the problem.
Oh ok... ;D
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

Pinto5.0

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on June 25, 2014, 12:02:32 PM
That's not good, gotta run better gas or lower compression, might fatten it up a tad too that helps to cool it down a bit and kill some of the rattle..

Nah, I'm taking the easy way out & swapping the engine, distributor, ignition box & going to a new Weber 38 in hopes that cures the problem.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

74 PintoWagon

That's not good, gotta run better gas or lower compression, might fatten it up a tad too that helps to cool it down a bit and kill some of the rattle..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

Pinto5.0

My bad, I also have knocking & pinging during acceleration which is why my timing is backed off. I'm still pinging ay 14 degrees just not as violently. I'm getting hot spots in the cylinders even with the timing backed off & those are causing my run on.

A solenoid will help cure the run on but that pinging is still taking it's toll on my pistons & valves.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

74 PintoWagon

I've never seen timing cure that, but this is the cure..

Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

Pinto5.0

My 60K mile 2.3 does it after a tune up including wires, gaskets & an NOS carb. I have the timing down to 14 degrees & it still does it. I've tried to solve it since last year to no avail.....
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

74 PintoWagon

Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

Yelby

Newly rebuilt 2.3 set to 20deg advance per sticker.  New Weber 2 barrel carb with electric choke.  What would cause engine to run-on after turning key off after cruising at 55-65 for 30 to 45 minutes?