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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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apintonut

If you are working on a wagon and want to find somthing on the cheap 86-94 subaru dl or loyale rear shocks and springs from junk yard or craigslist.  They look like a coilover and look like they would work good
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apintonut

ok got the other ones in they went right on 2.5 lift my springs were fairly good so u may see more if you have a saggy rear parts info Monroe Sensa-Trac - Shock Absorber
Part # 58551

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Thanks nut-- this will help folks.

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apintonut

es i know this is a really old thread but i orderd some for mine so heres the info ....... Monroe Sensa-Trac - Shock  Part Number: 58539    they are at oriely's a stocking item application 1973 ford mustang 80$ or rockauto 55$ this is for wagons
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quote author=High_Horse link=topic=8908.msg54401#msg54401 date=1202513601]
I drive an 85 chevy wagon...it has coils on the back. They loose the height after a while and make the car look like it's dragging it's butt. I hate that gangsta look. So I got some coilovers and it brought it up to that healthy looking height...and maybe just a hair more. Well now I am doing the Pinto rearend and I will be replacing the shocks and I sure would like to find a set of coilovers just at least to firm things up a bit...but not for height. Forget shackles...what they add back to the rear they give up in sideways sway. Plus they look bad. I think. If someone comes up with something ...post the number...if I find something I will post the number. I might even do the collar and spring with a more quality shock.


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how close is the aerostar rear end to what you are seeking.  the 2 i had  had coils insted of leaf springs.[
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High_Horse

I drive an 85 chevy wagon...it has coils on the back. They loose the height after a while and make the car look like it's dragging it's butt. I hate that gangsta look. So I got some coilovers and it brought it up to that healthy looking height...and maybe just a hair more. Well now I am doing the Pinto rearend and I will be replacing the shocks and I sure would like to find a set of coilovers just at least to firm things up a bit...but not for height. Forget shackles...what they add back to the rear they give up in sideways sway. Plus they look bad. I think. If someone comes up with something ...post the number...if I find something I will post the number. I might even do the collar and spring with a more quality shock.


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77turbopinto

Quote from: Smeed on February 08, 2008, 01:54:23 PM
A longer shackle would screw up the handling? .... I dont know what a shackle is/does but if it messes with the handling I would rather stay away from that option.

They attach the rear end of the leaf to the car. The car is designed to have them a certain length. You COULD install longer ones to lift the rear of the car, but remember that the axle is located closer to the front spring mount, so every inch increase in shackle length, you will get less than half of that in lift. You would also be putting them a different angle and that will effect how they handle loads. Longer ones will also tend to flex more during lateral loads (roll steer).

Some people use longer shackles to compensate for worn springs BUT there is nothing that looks dumber than 10" shackles on a car that STILL sits too low in the rear!

Bill
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Smeed

A longer shackle would screw up the handling? .... I dont know what a shackle is/does but if it messes with the handling I would rather stay away from that option.

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77turbopinto

Quote from: Chris on February 08, 2008, 12:21:38 PM
if all you are looking for is lift in the rear, why not get a longer shackle?

Handling?

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Chris

if all you are looking for is lift in the rear, why not get a longer shackle?
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hellfirejim

I know the main thrust of this thread has been rear suspension but has anybody made the coilover shock change to the front of their Pintos???? :lost:

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wedge446

Quote from: Smeed on January 30, 2008, 02:44:58 PM
cut them to the same length as the pinto leafs and then weld the pinto ends on.

As FCANON said Don`t weld on the springs.. They are hardened and will brake if you weld on them..
I`m going to use a set of mopar 2800# super stock springs on mine, I`ll have to move the rear hanger 2" but I have the room to do that on my wagon.
With a cutting torch and welded anything will fit.

77turbopinto

X2!!

If your main leafs are OK, you can build up leafs to do what you need. If they are shot, then you need new main leafs.

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FCANON

I cant explain how bad of a idea this is... dont cut and weld your leaf springs please it just not safe.
you can take longer springs to a spring shop and have the ends cut off and new ones rolled, if they are equipped with a furnace.

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Smeed

I wasnt planning on putting coil overs onto the fronts, just to change the shocks. What I meant by using springs from another car is to find springs the same width, cut them to the same length as the pinto leafs and then weld the pinto ends on.

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77turbopinto

Quote from: Smeed on January 30, 2008, 11:40:57 AM
My original plan was to take springs from another car and put the pinto ends on them.. Bill I think thats what you were describing, right? Ive got to replace one shock in the front so I thought it might be easier to do all 4 at once.

I am not so sure now, but yes??

I was only talking about the rears. The main leaf (the ones with the 'eyes') is critical, all the others can be swapped as needed. I would not use coil-overs or air shocks for various reasons. You COULD also remove the rubber assy. to give you a little elevation. NOTE: I have done this myself, but I have seen it done WRONG numerous times. IF not done correctly, you stand a good chance of having the rear 'walk' around (BAD). If you do almost ANYTHING to it, REMOVE ALL the rubber. The safe and easy way to do it without modifying the axle or the car is to cut the top off of the channel that the rubber and springs go into, and weld a plate inside of it that has a small hole for the spring pin. This will allow the rear to stay where it needs to.

I never did any modifying to the fronts are other than swap springs and change the geometry.

Bill
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Smeed

My original plan was to take springs from another car and put the pinto ends on them.. Bill I think thats what you were describing, right? Ive got to replace one shock in the front so I thought it might be easier to do all 4 at once.

'73 runabout

77turbopinto

New springs are kind of 'pricey' and good used Pinto leafs are way to hard to find; what to do.......

You COULD do what I have done many times. Find a 'junk' pair of used leafs from another car (does not have to be a Pinto or even a Ford) from a bone yard and use them to 'custom build' a set with the ride height you want. A cheap pair with the same width and you can cut the leafs to what you need.

I used parts from a good pair of 68 Stang springs to build a pair for Connie's car. Both the main leafs were snapped on the orange car so I had to grab a couple out of the pile and go to work getting the right combo. It tends to be a little labor intesive, but worth the effort.

Bill's auto parts in Tolland has a BUNCH of leafs for like $30. each, and they do give discounts if you buy more than one.

One other thing. If you plan to do this, wire wheel the leafs and get some motorcycle chain lube; spray a LITTLE between the leafs and it will keep them from binding or rusting.


Bill
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71HANTO

Hi, I had good luck with what I will call a poor man's version of the coil-overs. My local Pep Boys carried coil "helper" springs that clamped to the existing rear shock. They were very effective, adjustable, and cheap! I don't know if they still carry them or not. The disadvantage to them is that they put extra load on the upper shock mount as the shock is now carrying some of the weight of the car. I have also used rear air shocks which have the same issue with the top mount but if set up right, are adjustable on the fly. They tend to be $$$ especially if you get an auxiliary pump. As a final potential fix, I have added an "overload" leaf used in trailer towing to a couple of my cars. They are easy to add without taking the whole rear apart by clamping to the existing leafs. They can be effective at reducing wheel hop and diff twist if you put them forward of the diff housing. They work like perminant drag race "slapper bars" .71HANTO
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High_Horse

I'd like to do coilovers for the rear also.


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hellfirejim

I know you are asking about the rear springs but speedway has a coil over kit for the front suspension for 74 +++
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Smeed

Do coilover springs exist for pintos? I was trying to find a way to give the rear of my car a little bit more posture without putting in new leafsprings.

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