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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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74 PintoWagon

I've never heard anything bad about Exide yet.
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jeremysdad

It was 0 degrees this morning, Tractor  Supply batteries in my Pinto and the wife's car, both cranked and started with no hesitation or issues. Rebranded Exide batteries. Good luck! :)

74 PintoWagon

I've used Interstate batteries for quite some time and never had a problem with them, in fact I have one now that's going on 8 years now.
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waldo786

I got an Interstate battery for my Pinto when I got it last year.  I looked on line and bought the one that was recommended.  Can't remember if it was the 22F someone mentioned or not.  Go to autozone, or napa, or advance auto online and see the size they recommend.  I would say it's on the smaller side for cranking power, but I've barely used it since I took the thing apart to restore it.  I do have a WalMart battery in my daily driver, and knock on wood, it is still going and will be either 6 or 7 years old this summer.  Haven't had a problem with it yet.

jeremysdad

I get my batteries from Tractor Supply Co. Labeled Exide right on the label, and as stated above, way cheaper than Wal-Mart. The group 24 in my car was $69.99, and they honored the pro-rated warranty portion of the battery that was in the car (which I did not buy, and was from Rural King---but it said 'Exide' as well, so they honored it). The credit they gave me was $24.50 toward the new battery. :) All I did was ask, I even made it clear that the battery was in the car when I bought it (the car). That customer service gem garnered them another battery purchase when the wife's laid down, and the purchase of a chain saw. lol

All the other parts stores wanted $90 or better for a comparable 2 year battery (and I can assure you that probably no one but a local farm store chain would honor the pro-rated warranty without receipt), and no one does the pro-rated warranty periods anymore, so saving money won the day.

I have also purchased batteries from Rural King before, with good results. Also sell Exide batteries, also cheap. Ymmv. :)

amc49

Yes, you need one with enough smarts to back off charging when full up. Some don't and left alone WILL cook your stuff if it goes on long enough.

74 PintoWagon

No problem, lol, you have a tender those are the ones they work great, a "trickle" is just that it trickles all the time, everyone I've had/seen all put out 1-2 amps continuously even when the battery is fully charged, battery stay quite warm and you can see bubbles in the fluid, so if you don't keep an eye on it the thing will go dry and cook, it's happened to me before. A tender just keeps it charged, when the battery is fully charged it quits charging.
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Wittsend

 My error, I called my float chargers a trickle charger (my apology). I'm not sure how a trickle charger differs from a float charger???, if it even does at all.  Anyway, this is what I have:

http://www.harborfreight.com/automatic-battery-float-charger-42292.html

Some of my batteries have been continuously (except for the rare drive) on these chargers for over three years now without incident. One of these batteries is over 9 years old.

74 PintoWagon

Personally, I don't like trickle chargers because they always charge even when the battery is topped off and if you forget to check the battery for water it will boil the water away and cook the battery, a battery "tender" is the way to go, it shuts off when the battery is topped off you can go away for a year and come back and the battery is ready to go.
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Wittsend

Harbor Freight sells a trickle battery charger.  I have then going on three of my (so called) "collector cars."  They list currently for $12.99 but often are on sale ($6.99 at the moment), even for as little as $4.99 at times.  Most of my cars have batteries in the 6-10 year old range. These cheap chargers have kept them alive and I highly recommend them.

I have heard people complain that they "cooked" their battery.  I have NEVER had that problem. Of course you still have to be responsible to check the fluid level every so often.

The trickle chargers are not meant to charge a drained battery.  I recommend hitting the battery every 3-4 months with a regular charger.  The two things that kill collector car batteries is excessive cranking because of dry float bowls and sulfating of a drained battery. Avoid both and you should get decent battery life.  BTW, my son bought a 1996 Civic with 18,000 miles a few years ago.  When the battery died we checked the battery date code. It was 14 years old!

amc49

That's pretty good if not a 48 month one, I get 72 here at Walmart for around $80. ALL batteries went up about 25%-40% about 2-3 years ago, I'm thinking they figured out how much the cars sitting to have PCMs drain them repeatedly to ruin was costing them. We went through huge price increases for like 6 months straight there for a while. Batteries were going up week by week. I used to get all mine for $50 as well but no more. I was getting them cheaper at Walmart than with my 40% employee discount at the store, pretty silly.

I don't buy either the high priced or low priced battery, neither one pays off averaged out. The 48 doesn't have enough cold amp and will fail long before it gets to the end of the 48 and the 84 never makes it to 84 months. A few guys will get lucky but most won't.

If I can, I still look for ones that you can add water too as well, that is almost always good for another year just doing that. When they tell you zero maintenance don't buy it, there is no such thing even though they use less water than before. 8 of 10 bad zero maintenance batteries will need water if you break the glued on caps off and look. I did it enough times to be dead sure of it.

78cruisingwagon

The cheapest batterys around here are at Atwoods Farm Stores. I bought a 24F three months ago for my Maverick for $49.95. It was one month old when I bought it. That's half the price of Wal-Mart.

amc49

Been awhile since I did it but remember at least that the charging on a deep cycle battery is different than on a starting one. Can't remember what that difference was other than you had to do it on the charger with a flipswitch. Thinking the cycle actually runs the battery down first before recharging it, the deep cycle ones did take longer to charge.......

Optima even now tells you the deepcycle yellow can be used on modern cars with excellent results. They also tell you the batteries outlast regular ones but the warranty does not back that up at all, 3 year warranty max..............

dick1172762

Biggest problem with a deep cycle battery is they all say that you should NEVER charge one untill it goes dead. They must go thru a full cycle first. If their not dead when you need to use it, just hook something simple on it like a 12 volt light or something that will draw a small amount of amp's. Doesn't take long if the battery is almost dead to start with. Lots of people are driving around with a pretty yellow Optimas battery under the hood because its prettier than the red one. Problem is that the yellow one is a deep cycle battery. Counter salesman could care less as long as you buy. Useing a deep cycle battery for ever day use will kill it in a short time. How do I know you say? I spent many $$$ on deep cycle battery for race cars that had no alternator. I'd take the car home after the race and hook up the trickle charger to it. Took a long time before the tech people at MSD told me what was wrong. I payed for that lesson.
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74 PintoWagon

Another thing with Optimas is a LOT of people buy the wrong one for their application, don't know how many times I've helped someone with an Optima gone south, especially in boats or off road vehicles, can't use a start battery for a deep cycle they just won't last.
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amc49

By law of averages and all the ones I saw I simply pick first battery below the top of the line one myself. The top line never averages out to last as long for price as the next one down does. Seven and eight year batteries can last that long and longer but most don't and maybe only a firm year longer than the next cheaper one, or not worth the extra cost.

Average life 4-5 years on most all and pretty close to regardless of high/low cost.

I don't even contemplate Optima, they are highly overrated and look close at warranty they d-mn well know it despite all the advertising. They are rated for rough service and most don't recognize that does not mean extra life at all, the store push had counter guys commonly say otherwise though, it's all about that sales incentive..............and much more of the great American lie.

74 PintoWagon

Used to be a saying about the DieHard's, when they die they "Die Hard", all my friends btchd about them said they were junk, but I used them for quite some time and if I remember right the shortest lived one was 5 years, longest I believe was close to 8 years but of course I always kept up on them and made sure terminals were always clean.
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amc49

Still 3 companies only. In my view Diehards have dropped way off in quality. People sure griped about them at the parts store and I took in plenty of them ahead of time.

Batteries are the dicethrow, you either get a good one or no. Longest lasting battery I ever had was 11 years old and Walmart and not even the top of line battery as well, go figure. I watched so many Optima go bad ahead of time not funny.

Kill them way ahead of time by letting them sit feeding power all the time with PCM and why most of the early deaths happened when I worked the counter. I asked everybody to get a handle on it. Collector cars that sit and driven only 2-3 times a month the biggest killers, many batteries will not make 2 years like that even if top of the line.

We got lots of useable batteries to give away with all the diesel P/Ups now around, most guys replace both at one time and scared not to even though one battery generally goes there far before the other. The leftover might work another 2-3 years there and why I bought none when at the store.

fordblue72

I am looking for one myself,is this a group 22F? Thanks, Rich T.

74 PintoWagon

Curious, who makes Walmart batteries?, all these places have batteries made for them with their name on them, If I remember right there's only 3 major MFG's of batteries Johnson Controls being the biggest and Excide who used to make the DieHard don't know who does now, don't remember who the other one is, there are a few smaller ones but most are owned by Johnson Controls.
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dave1987

Do not get one from Walmart! That was the first battery I bought for my 78 Sedan and it died after a little less than a week, wouldn't take a charge.

That was eight years ago. Since then I have used DieHard which I get at Sears. I'm on my second one now. Had the first one replaced last year (lasted 7 years), and with the warranty, it shaved $20 off the replacement.

Les Schwab's winter rated batteries are great too! They have a decent warranty, and good cold crank amp ratings, similar to the DieHard.

I've left my headlights on for an hour, or the dome light inside on for three hours, without killing the battery beyond starting the car again. Mind you, the battery has a full healthy charge at the time.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

amc49

Get the tall skinny one intended for the car, wider conventional size will wilt from the exhaust heat, hoping you got that side heat shield.

tbucketjack

If price is a factor, Walmart is probably the cheapest.

blackfox208

 Need a good battery for my 79' 2.3 180CI 3spd auto.