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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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little red

Have you ever typed a really  nice reply to everone and it got ereased  well that just happened to me. but enough with that.
thank you for the ground info ill make some and install them.   Ill c if it makes a diference .  (it should)
As for the vent i drilled it out when i tryed to put the 255 walbro inline fuel pump in. But i didnt have a sump, so the car starved for fuel at idle in the driveway. I read about it some where,( probably on these forums) So i pulled all that out . Got 5.0 metal pick up and weilded a sump box to the bottom of it  small enough to fit the factory vent hole (On Pinto) and deep enough to hold fuel with the sock on it . Also trying to keep in mind that it had to touch the bottom of the tank.    I used a stock turbo coup pump and locked it all down with the 5.0 lock ring and it started to idle fine in the drive way.

I do need a fuel pressue tester ive got a cheap inline fpr with a gauge but whos to say that it is even accurate . but the gauge is read high and i can tell its over fueling the injector. i got locall H/F  here so ill go grab one .   R they  pretty well made?   
i  found a 85 xrt4 i today and it had a adjustable fuel damper . does ayone have one of these . If so do you like it, does it really adjust anything  or is it just for looks. I also grabed the harness. I read its the closes thing to a stand alone harness . do you think i should use it instead?
thank you for the info ill keep  you poosted
whats up peps I own 73 runabout 2.3t swap, spd, pimp ecu, subframe connectors. Ive had this car for 10yrs and have done the work my self the car has been in my family for 30yrs. Alway looking for parts and I have a few my self too, please feel free to message me

Wittsend

You should be getting about 35-40 PSI.   Odd that it idles OK because high pressure would create an overly rich situation given that the injector pulse widths are likely near as low as they go.  Opening the throttle would seem to allow other sensors to somewhat compensate by recalculation of the readings.

As stated you need the fuel return!!!  I'm wondering what is happening at the fuel rail that the return hose isn't dangling and gushing fuel if you don't have one???  A bad fuel pressure regulator might be a problem too.

Nearly three years after I did the turbo swap (using the dreaded '88 harness) and I'm still having issues. Idles fine, decent power after 3K, but in the driving range of 2k-2.5k awful.  I pulled the Spout and it is better, but not right.  All the best.  Tom

Mike Modified

Quote from: little red on August 14, 2012, 05:06:04 PM
I feel that the fpr could be bad

Probably ought to buy a fuel pressure tester.  This one is CHEAP, but ,if you get a good one (if not take it back for another - make sure it doesn't leak), it works well. http://www.harborfreight.com/fuel-injection-pump-tester-92699.html

Mike

Pinturbo75

you ran the return line to the tank vent on the top driver side of the tank? did you drill out the inlet to the vent fitting? its just a tiny little hole inside the tube.... theres your pressure problem.....just pop it out and drill it out.... done in 10 minutes....
75 turbo pinto trunk, megasquirt2, 133lb injectors, bv head, precision 6265 turbo, 3" exhaust,bobs log, 8.8, t5,, subframe connectors, 65 mm tb, frontmount ic, traction bars, 255 lph walbro,
73 turbo pinto panel wagon, ms1, 85 lb inj, fmic, holset hy35, 3" exhaust, msd, bov,

racer99

I have looked at croths page before and have
downloaded a virus from it but it was
a few  years ago.

fast64ranchero

Grounds can cause wierd stuff to happen, make sure the block to body ground is on and clean on both points,
You really only need to have 14 to 15 wires to make it work, and only 3 to connect to your Pinto harness, (switched power, constant power and a Ground wire)
Are you sure you have all the connections hooked up? Mine did wierd stuff at first and I found I never tightened up the 2 screws that secure the harness to the ECU
I'd start  here:.....   80 psi of fuel pressure is going to flood the engine.
Next look at all your wiring connections,
I've heard of peeps putting the VAM in backwords.
71 Pro-Street pinto 2.3T powered
72 Treasure Valley Special 26K miles pinto
72 old V-8 parts Pinto
73 pinto, the nice one...

little red

The vam ,barrometric ,throttle position ,and injectors,computer
IAC,coil ,wiring harness ,engine for intake to oil pan
We're all takein from the same car. The car ran and drove
Before I striped the car I spent the time to make it run
Before I stripped the car. I bought the VAM new for the car
From a local auto parts store and drove it with it in stalled
Before I took the car apart. I feel that the fpr could be bad
But I also feel like  the wiring is causeing me the biggest
Problem. Almost like I don't have enough grounds  or something
Is not on the car. Iam going to buy a Kurban or bbk fpr that
Should help me fix the fuel pressure problem. I'll look closer to
The web sits stated I let you know what I find  thank you
All your help guys
whats up peps I own 73 runabout 2.3t swap, spd, pimp ecu, subframe connectors. Ive had this car for 10yrs and have done the work my self the car has been in my family for 30yrs. Alway looking for parts and I have a few my self too, please feel free to message me

oldkayaker

Here are some links that might help.  On this one, click on "EEC-IV" and then on "ECA's & chips".  It shows which VAM and injectors were used in different years.  Unfortunately the computer ID is not listed.
http://www.merkurencyclopedia.com/

This one shows the pin outs over various years.  A couple typos: add pin 56 for ignition PIP, add pin 57 to be in parallel with pin 37 V PWR.  Going upstream, the parent directory has a lot of info.
http://www.rothfam.com/svo/reference/ecc%20pins%20all.doc
These two are from the same general web site and show wiring.  The first one also shows where the sensors are located.
http://www.rothfam.com/svo/reference/85SVOevtm.pdf
http://www.rothfam.com/svo/reference/full%20diagrams/1985.pdf

These two may be helpful when trouble shooting.
http://www.oldfuelinjection.com/?p=91
http://www.turbotbird.com/techinfo/eec.htm
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

oldkayaker

Number one, the fuel pressure should not be 80psi and constant.  Suggest checking return line for blockage or maybe a stuck FPR.

If you did not get all the components from the same donor car, I would check the computer being calibrated for the injector size and VAM size used.  In your list of sensors used, I did not see the VAM, manifold pressure, throttle position.  The VSS is only used by the 87-88 computer, per literature.  Oil pressure is for the dash gauge and not engine control.  Make sure the engine temperature is the computer input and not the dash gauge (at least some use more than one engine temp sensor).  Probably missed some.  Have fun with the puzzle.
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

little red

So I've been working on this swap for some time now.

This is what I've got going as far as parts
Turbo coupe stock fuel pump intank I made a mustang fuel
Pick fit the stock gas tank vent hole(at the top drives side)
I'm using the factor Hard lines from the pinto
with a 5.0 fuel filter. 3/8 high pressure rubber lines.
Stock fuel pressure regulator (fpr) and rail 35 lb inject
85 turbo coupe drive train
85 pc1 ecu also I stripped the car for the engine
Wiring harness  here is the sensor that I have found
Are actually in the wiring loom
Idle air control
Injectors
O2 sensor
Ignition to distributor and coil
Test plug (for codes)
Water temp /oil pressure
Needless to say I don't have the
Veichal speed sensor on the trans
Does anyone have info on the importance
Of this part and does it control the car under a load
Also can I just wire it straight the computer
I'm sure how much is need to make this swap work perfect
Please help me figure out why my car idles good but when
I drive it I can get it to barrelly putt around up to 3grand
Then it falls all over it's self  also the fuel pressure stays
At 80 psi
Any info would be the help full
whats up peps I own 73 runabout 2.3t swap, spd, pimp ecu, subframe connectors. Ive had this car for 10yrs and have done the work my self the car has been in my family for 30yrs. Alway looking for parts and I have a few my self too, please feel free to message me