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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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jpbralley

I think my hood is stuck? I can't figureout howto post this question anywhere else, but I pull the latch, and it comes up, but its like its stuck on another catch or something. (I don't have much experience with cars,my  dads just not home and I can't open it for the life of me)

SeanP

Thank you. Does type F go in manual trans too or just automatics?
Biloxi, MS
1978 brown Pinto Pony trunk
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r4pinto

Quote from: SeanP on September 06, 2012, 12:00:21 PM
I'm also in the process of doing fluid changes, including brakes, on my 78 Pinto Pony.  Is there a garage section on fordpinto.com that lists recommended fluids, ie motor oil, trans oil, wheel bearing grease, etc. etc? It's been awhile since I've owned a car with a carb and non-sealed wheel bearings. I don't even have a grease gun for the ball joints.

Welcome!

I don't know if anyone has listed the fluid types for the car but here is what I know by what I have looked up & used.
Motor oil.. 10w30 is recommended by Ford. Trans oil is Type f. I've used regular wheel bearing grease with no problems for years. Can't recall what the rear gear takes but I think it is 75w90. Gas is easy.. regular 87 octane. Dot 3 brake fluid for the brakes, regular antifreeze for the coolant. The universal coolant sold in the stores these days will work just fine. If it has power steering it just takes regular power steering fluid unless I am mistaken.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

SeanP

I'm also in the process of doing fluid changes, including brakes, on my 78 Pinto Pony.  Is there a garage section on fordpinto.com that lists recommended fluids, ie motor oil, trans oil, wheel bearing grease, etc. etc? It's been awhile since I've owned a car with a carb and non-sealed wheel bearings. I don't even have a grease gun for the ball joints.
Biloxi, MS
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youngboy

I am new to the Pinto and I can't find the place to pour transmission fluid into the car, could you tell me?

scoth69

 :text_yb_please:
what is the silver box on the fender well car wont start i was told this safety box is why

78jr racer

bates 77, are you running dirt or asphalt?
if running in dirt throw away your sway bar you are preloading your chassis.which has a negative affect on handling. you might also play with the lead in your rear axle.trailing the right rear tire from the left rear tire will loosen your car. leading the the right rear ahead ofthe left rear will tighten your car. without knowing car weight  spring weights etc. it is hard to determine exactley what it will take to get lined out. if racing on pavement i haven't a clue on setup i've never raced asphalt before.if you will contact speedway motors in lincoln, nebraska they have a very knowlegable staff. their address is www.speedwaymotors.com phone is 402-323-3200
hope this helps
merle walter

billnall

HI BPANMAN,
Check out links tab an this site and try VFN fiberglass.
Ford Parts Man
Bill

bpanman

Hey Everyone,  I'm new here.  I was wondering where can you get aftermarket fenders?  what are some good sites to find parts?  thanks

bpanman

Hey Everyone,  I'm new here.  I was wondering where can you get aftermarket fenders?  what are some good sites to find parts?  thanks

Handy

Here's a picture of my '80 Bobcat.  It looks better in this picture than up close . . . not a lot of rust on it but its in pretty rough shape compared to my '76 Pinto.  Luckily, I found a junkyard close by that even has a '79 Bobcat with enough parts left over to pick off it.    If anyone else has been looking for an odd part off a 79-80 Pinto/Bobcat let me know and I'll pull it before it gets crushed.  This junkyard allows buyers to pull parts but they don't ship out and they're definitely not hooked into the internet.   They gave me a centercap for my rallye wheel for FREE ( I only had 3 out of 4 of the rallye style wheels before hitting the yard . . . there's one wheel still left now.)
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1976 Pinto

Handy

Just thought I'd try posting a picture of #2.   Removing the driveshaft was a snap.  Thanks for all the tips.  But rather than wire the shaft to the car, I just removed it entirely and mated a spare slip yoke to the transmission output shaft.  A bungee cord kept it tied to the rear mount.  It was an easy tow even with my 4-cylinder van ('97 Honda Odyssey).

This is a great site.  Keep up the good work!!
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1976 Pinto

Handy

Will do.  Thanks again! 
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1976 Pinto

losin sux

Look for the topic "driveshaft disconnect" in another section of the board that I posted.  You will find one I did after the suggestions.  It is not hard to do and not long at all.  Beats foaming up the transmission fluid.  HOpe it goes well.

Steve
77 HB 2.3 C3 3.40

78pinto

yes pull the driveshaft if its an automatic and your going to pull it with the rear wheels on the ground. If the car is not running, you'll burn the pump out of the tranny.
** Jeff (78Pinto) is Missing from us but will always be a part of our community- We miss you Jeff **

Handy

Hi,

Thanks for the advice on the 5-speed.  Sorry for delay in replys but I'm still not quite used to the forum discussion thing.

Welp, I just bought Pinto #2 off ebay.  After failing to find trim parts for the 1980 Bobcat I'm switching to a '76 Pinto that looks a little more intact.  But I have a few questions:

  1.  I'll be towing the Pinto home ( about 230 miles ) using a U-Haul dolly with
       my van.  The roads are fairly straight with only an occassional hill (almost all
       freeway driving ).  Since its an automatic, I had planned to pull the drive
       shaft off to prevent damage to the transmission, rather than just putting it
       in neutral.   Is that being too cautious (waste of energy and is it even
       necessary)?  Any suggestions on towing would be helpful. ???

  2.  Are there any postings regarding upgrading the standard 2 barrel carb setup
       to EFI ( what's needed to make it work with older Pintos).  The turbo
       conversion looks a  bit too complex for me to handle this winter but that's
       a long-term goal/project I'd like to tackle  ;)

Kind regards,
Handy
1980 Bobcat
1976 Pinto

Keebler-kahnn


Handy

Thanks for the info!
1980 Bobcat
1976 Pinto

SVOwagon

I put a 2.3 turbo motor with the 5 speed in my 80 Pinto.
 Yes a mustang or Thunderbird turbo trans will fit, but with some work. If I was you this is what I would do. Get a trans from a Mustang with the bellhousing. You may not need to use the bell housing but if your Cat one doesn't work, you know that you have one on hand that will. I did have to cut my drive shaft and the hole in the floor was trimmed a little. The crossmember works but I had to make an adapter to get the mount to line up.
80 2.3 EFI Turbo Pinto Squire Wagon
91 Mustang LX 5.0 (93 Cobra clone project)
82 Mustang GT (built 460)
89 Mustang LX coupe (built 302)
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Handy

Hi,

Thanks for the great column.  I'm a newbie to the Pinto scene . . . just started working on cars again after many years away from mechanics.  

Anyway, I bought a 1980 Bobcat off the classifieds here and drove it home this weekend.   What a blast!  The drive train, electrical, brakes, steering and suspension all seem to be working fine to me so far.  Although my Bobcat has a 2.3L and 4 speed, with a 8" rear end,  I'm considering replacing the transmission with a 5 speed at some point.  

I'm wondering if a 5-speed tranny off a Mustang or T-Bird with a 2.3L  is a bolt-on replacement or would it require modifying the drive shaft or drive train?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks  
1980 Bobcat
1976 Pinto

samgcpo

Fantastic!  I've been looking for that same wheel info for 2-years.  Thanks!

~Sam ;D

Keebler-kahnn

just checked out the Crower site....Not too bad pricing either! Ive placed my order and will be going to Esslinger's site in a bit. Thanks!

Keebler-kahnn

That makes sence. Thanks for the info...ill be getting my header in next week from Canada so this will give me time to find a cam with that grind.  :)

Later,
Keeb~

turbopinto72

Well, I looked up your Crane cam and I see that the duration is 226/234 @ .50 and the lift is 420. ( did't see the 460/480 ) . But any way, thats not a bad cam. I think the cam I like better is the Crower cam, grind #
24273. Is 228/238 dur @ .50 with a 476/493 lift and 110 lobe center. Im sure you could get this cam from summit if you asked. I would STRONGLY recomend using a cam pully. I like the Esslinger unit. This will allow you to take full advantage of your cam and ( dial your car in) alot better. I would start it with " 0" streight up and probably end up with it some where in the 6 to 8 deg advanced setting for that bottom end punch you need.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Keebler-kahnn

TurboPinto72...I have a question fer ya...

As far as the cams go...

My application is street/ strip, daily driver, with my current gear ratio and 4 speed, I run 3000 rpm @ 63mph.

I want a faster take-off, (able to light up the tires from a roll of about 5-10mph), and of course a higher top end.

On my '77 2.3, I want to leave the bottom end stock, stock bore (for now), upgrade the intake, 500 Holley, and Headers.

What Hydraulic cam would you recommend? And what lift/duration would you recommend? I am looking at a cam from CRANE. Description from Summit Racing as follows:
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CRN-190071  Camshaft, Hydraulic Follower, Advertised Duration 278/286, Lift .460/.480, Ford, OHC 4 Cylinder
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Would you recommed this cam, or do you have a better cam that I should go with? I am looking at the price and the ease of the overall build. I have decide NOT to go with the turbo at this time, (rapair of the two turbos I have is out of my pocket and budget).

Thanks,
Keeb~

turbopinto72

 Well, to answer your question. You  ( could ) use them on a N/A engine as is BUT the compression ratio may be the least of your worries. Lets say that your engine is 9:1 compression or even 9.5:1. If you keep the boost down you can run any turbo, however the stock cast pistons will probably FAIL. Besides, those drawthru systems  ( the factory 79-81 systems)are not the most efficent things around. What you are discribing with the oil that blows is a oil seal failure. Yes , they can be repaired BUT, you still need to pipe the exhaust around to the intake side and then figure out how to exit the exhaust around the stearing. Not to fun.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Keebler-kahnn

I also have just one more question....I have two, draw through turbo intakes complete. 1 from a 1981 Capri RS Turbo and 1 from a 1982 Mustang Cobra. 1 spools up at idle and blows liquid oil, the second spools fine but blows a freight train of smoke.

If i can get these repaired, will i have to change the compression ratio of the stock non-turbo 2.3? or will it handle the extra compression?

Thanks for the link.
keeb~

turbopinto72

 If you go to  Turboford.org   and do a search for that there will be a whole bunch of info. There are several people on this site who have done the swap, ( including myself) and will be more than happy to answer questions.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Keebler-kahnn

Im considering a turbo swap in my 1977 cursin Wagon. Ho whard is it to remove the computer from the Donor T-Bird and install it into the pinto? Are there any sites detailing the swap, step by step?

Thanks,
Keeb~

turbopinto72

I bought my carpet kit from JCWitney. It worked well , however it was not molded so it took some extra time to install. If the kit you are looking at is a " molded" kit it will save time. If you want to buy a "used" carpet make sure you ask the seller for additional pictures of all the area's that can get real bad like the drivers feet area etc. The factory units will be pretty funky and who knows what they will look ( smell) like when the get pulled up ( read, a 44 oz. coke spilled 4 years ago and is still rotting away the underlayment). As far as a min bid, go $.50 over and see what happens.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto